Draft Countdown Forums

Go Back   Draft Countdown Forums > Draft Countdown Forums > College Football

College Football Discuss College Football

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-18-2008, 09:13 PM    (permalink
djp
Team Leader
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 16,247
Reputation: 536251
djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Marve is going to have a short, short leash to say the least...
__________________
"Compadres, it is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season. And remember, a shiny new donkey for whomever brings me the head of Colonel Montoya."
djp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2008, 12:37 AM    (permalink
thebow305
2009 NFL Mock Draft Champ
All-Pro
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: South Florida
Posts: 8,709
Reputation: 335869
thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by draftguru151 View Post
Damn I can't believe Marve is still going to start next week. I like the decision but I was sure Harris was going to start.
Agreed. I was shocked with the decision as well. I also think it is the smart one though. Marve is our future, he is still VERY talented and is just going through some growing pains. He does need to step it up pretty soon though or he will be playing himself right out of the job.
__________________

Dolphins Dream Draft: 1. C.J. Mosley 2. Kelvin Benjamin 3. Ja'Wuan James 4. Brandon Thomas 5. Xavier Grimble 6. Tyler Gaffney 7. Ross Cockrell
thebow305 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2008, 09:04 AM    (permalink
etk
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 12,140
Reputation: 46580
etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Shannon is being pretty stubborn with this call. I'm hoping/thinking Marve gets the start and plays a couple series while Jacory takes in the defense and plays the rest of the game. Maybe Nix thinks Marve is more composed to start a game and Jacory will be better off coming off the bench early once everyone's settled down. All I know is Harris clearly gives us a better chance to win so he better be our quarterback.

I was really disappointed with our defensive line play yesterday. It's not a good sign when your safeties have to keep coming up to make tackles because no one holds their gaps or shoots in the backfield. If another LB goes down we're screwed because every time Sharpton/Cook missed a tackle it went for a big gain, and those big gains are gonna increase if it's Romeo Davis in the open field. In short, we're relying on our LBs too much because the other positions aren't stepping up.

Anyone else think Nix has been reading the various forums and blogs this week? Finally we get some intermediate throws across the middle, fade passes to AJ and Byrd, passes to tFR receivers in general, etc. Of course he has to throw in the 1/2 bubble screens that go incomplete.
__________________

sig by BoneKrusher
etk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2008, 10:11 AM    (permalink
draftguru151
:/
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: RAWR
Posts: 39,496
Reputation: 3904029
draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I really don't get how Harris is clearly better than Marve. Yesterday Marve made 2 great plays, a very good throw, a check down, a big run, 2 drops and that dumbass interception. Harris comes in, holds the ball for too long, makes 2 dumbass decisions (luckily only one was picked off) and plays a good game as does the rest of the team (not to mention Nix calling the best game he's done while he was at UM) the rest of the time. With giving Marve a leash this small he either is going to not make bad decisions ever or is going to play afraid, which is more likely for a freshman? Maybe it's only if he makes really really bad mistakes, but I still don't like benching him after 3 series. Hopefully he is a lot tougher mentally than I think.

As for the run defense, DTs were pretty bad (Fortson had probably his worst game) and Robinson and Smith were completely overmatched in the run game. Smith really should not have played anywhere near the snaps he did. Stay with the 4 man rotation and let Smith come in on some passing situations if anything. That and we ran a lot more nickel than normal.

Great to see AJ having a big game after getting no catches last week. He really needs to work on his quickness in the offseason. James looked pretty good in his limited action. Hopefully he can come up big down the stretch.

Can anyone think of a way to steal David Cutcliffe to be the OC next year? He is an amazing coach.
__________________

<Gaius_Baltar> That is correct comahan
<vidae> I ******* LOVE YOU DG
<njx9> <3 dg
draftguru151 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2008, 05:43 PM    (permalink
etk
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 12,140
Reputation: 46580
etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Why is Harris clearly better than Marve? Simple one word answer: Productivity. Jacory led us to what...6 TD drives to run away with this game? No one knows what the outcome would have been if Marve would've stayed in the game. I like Marve a lot and I'm confident he will be the starter for us down the road and we will return to the top with him at the helm, but I can't deny winning. Harris does a good job converting for first downs and gets the ball to our playmakers. That's what we need right now with this young team. Our defense just needs to make more plays to help us out.

Don't overanalyze at the QB position. All that matters is the points on the scoreboard.

Marve is one of the toughest QBs out there mentally. His dad was an NFL linebacker and Marve has that same mentality. When he makes a bad throw, it's not because he's anxious or nervous, rather it's because he trusts his physical ability and wants to make a play. He has a good relationship with Harris and Nix and he understands when it's his turn and when it's not.

I don't like the confusion at the position either. Harris wasn't supposed to play and yet he comes in when Marve is doing quite well....and never leaves. We need some kind of consistent formula here because the rotation feels disorganized and chaotic.
__________________

sig by BoneKrusher
etk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2008, 08:37 PM    (permalink
Joeyjr09
 
Posts: n/a
Reputation:
Default

You know, it's kinda funny. I was at CityWalk in Orlando watching the game before going into Halloween Horror Nights and when Marve threw that nasty INT, my 1st tough was how often Marve has made Kyle Wright-ish bonehead throws lately and that we needed to give Jacory a longer look because he almost never turns the ball over.

Sure enough, look what happened. Here's my take on the 2 QBs. Marve is the superior talent, Jacory is the most ready to play right now. Marve is gusty, has a cannon arm, can move a little and completes some passes that really wow you. But he has been making a TON of mistakes lately that he should have worked out by this point. He is making mistakes I though he would have made week 1-3, not week 8. There's absolutely ZERO reason for the INT, everyone in their mother knew he should have thrown that ball out of bounds, and the problem is that he has done alot of that lately. Forces way too much into coverage and is trying way too hard to be a gamechanger. He has made alot of backbreaking mistakes that could have cost us the last 2 games. He needs to sit for a little, gather himself, take a step back and play within what Nix gives him.

Nix's system is absolutely horrible for QBs. Gives the QBs very little chances for success. It's a system designed for a QB to be smart and efficient, not a playmaker or game changers. All he has to do is make sure he gets the ball in the hands of the Aldarius Johnsons, Travis Benjamins, Craig Coopers, and our other promising playmakers (man is Bryd going to be a good one too). That is what is making Jacory so successful in our system, he doesn't try to make plays. He takes what is given to him. He doesn't force anything. If it's not there, he takes off runnning and gets what he can. He completed passes to Collier, Bryd, AJ, TB, Epps, Zellner, Cooper, JJ, and Farq. Thats 9 different players that I can think of. When have you ever seen Marve do that? The reason for that is because Marve tries to force his passes into the player that play was designed for while Jacory takes what is give, keys the coverage and reads to his backup options who most of the time, where open.

Right now Jacory seems to be the more polished and better QB. Marve is the better talent and the most potential.

Another big factor that stuck out to me is Marve's inability to throw different types of passes. And by that I mean, Marve throws a flat out bullet on every drop back. He has a cannon but you can't be blowing it by your RBs when they are 2 yards away from you. Jacory does a much better job at getting some air under the passes he needs to float and that helped his get more out of Nix's short passing game stuff IMO then the bullets Marve would throw that would cause out guys to have to make a great play just to catch a hot pass before even thinking of breaking tackles.

Guru, on our DL, we are still too young. Robinson and Smith at this point are pass rushing specialist that are having to play more snaps then they should and it's affecting their ability to get after the QB because they are wearing down. I think they will be very good ball players in time but it's just another sign of how bad our situation really is/was. After Bailey and Moncur we have Wesley and Adkins who were both brought here to be pass rushing guys, not good against the run. Ojomo still needs work and Smith and Robinson still have to really bulk up and fill out before they can be effective against the run. I think given time, Ojomo, Robinson and especially Smith who I think he shown he is gonna be a player for us will be able to step up in the run department. I think we will be good there in time, we are just undersized and overwhelmed there because we are playing too many freshmen DEs.

And the LB situation doesn't help us either. Cook has started playing like the Cook we all know and love after playing way over his head to start the year and Sharpton misses more tackles then any LB in recent memory. Believe me, If Cracker and Moncur weren't out for the year, this would be a completely different situation. Hard to miss your strongest player (and a DE at that) and your biggest, hardest hitting LB and still dominate the run the way we have all year (except Ponder). We aren't deep enough for that yet. But we will be.

Let Randy keep recruiting the way he has been, ultimately that is what is gonna get us back on top. The only real problem that I see is Nix. He has some nice elements to his system but overall it is not QB friendly and it is not an offense that will ever be able to sustain us against big time teams. That needs to be changed now so these players can have a couple years with a new OC and system before we start to really make our climb that we are all expecting. Everything else seems to be in place, it's just a matter of giving these kids time to grow, getting the Coker kids out and the fresh new talent in. There's no doubt in my mind Randy has headed in the right direction, I might not agree with how he handles everything but you can see the amount of talent and progression (yes progression, for all the talk of coaching kids up, there are players that were riding the pine eariler that are making big contributions now and there were guys who sat last year that are having solid seasons this season, you can even see game to game growth by alot of young guys that will be the future of this program).

We will be back guys, just give it time. This team is 100 percent better then last year's team even if we are only 4-3, we aren't getting blown out of games and we are always playing hard. I have no reason to doubt that next year's team will be better then this year's team.

It just feels more and more like we are building a bomb down here, we are missing pieces and having to rewire some components but when it's finally ready, we are gonna drop it all over the NCAA and blow away alot of people.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2008, 08:38 PM    (permalink
Joeyjr09
 
Posts: n/a
Reputation:
Default

Sorry for the essay.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2008, 09:29 PM    (permalink
etk
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 12,140
Reputation: 46580
etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Man you went into detail with the QBs, but you're absolutely right. I don't like to focus on the negatives with Marve, because I know soon enough it will all be forgotten. Instead, I look at the positives with Harris, which you scripted nicely. He takes what's given to him and gets it to our playmakers....that's the biggest line for me. He knows AJ, Benjamin and co. will do their part and he understands that there's always a next play. His running instincts are....naturally brilliant. That's what it all comes down to....Harris is playing naturally like it's HS, Marve is too quick with his decisions and only goes with his primary read, be it a throw or run.

I still want to throw to our backs more, but that's not Jacory's fault...shrug. We keep seeing stacked boxes and simple circle routes would get us at least 5 yards like we want from our runs. This week we need to keep it away from Aaron Curry though because he's all over the field against the pass.

Speaking of which, this week will be a major test for our QBs. Wake Forest's DBs (Smith, Ghee, Vaughn, etc.) make a lot of plays and are very aggressive. Harris is definitely the guy we want against their defense, but even he has to be extra careful. Our defense should do their part considering how woeful WF has been. All they do is hand off to Adams or throw to Boldin. Skinner's playing like crap too.
__________________

sig by BoneKrusher
etk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2008, 10:51 PM    (permalink
Joeyjr09
 
Posts: n/a
Reputation:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by etk View Post
Man you went into detail with the QBs, but you're absolutely right. I don't like to focus on the negatives with Marve, because I know soon enough it will all be forgotten. Instead, I look at the positives with Harris, which you scripted nicely. He takes what's given to him and gets it to our playmakers....that's the biggest line for me. He knows AJ, Benjamin and co. will do their part and he understands that there's always a next play. His running instincts are....naturally brilliant. That's what it all comes down to....Harris is playing naturally like it's HS, Marve is too quick with his decisions and only goes with his primary read, be it a throw or run.

I still want to throw to our backs more, but that's not Jacory's fault...shrug. We keep seeing stacked boxes and simple circle routes would get us at least 5 yards like we want from our runs. This week we need to keep it away from Aaron Curry though because he's all over the field against the pass.

Speaking of which, this week will be a major test for our QBs. Wake Forest's DBs (Smith, Ghee, Vaughn, etc.) make a lot of plays and are very aggressive. Harris is definitely the guy we want against their defense, but even he has to be extra careful. Our defense should do their part considering how woeful WF has been. All they do is hand off to Adams or throw to Boldin. Skinner's playing like crap too.
Here's what I do if I'm game planning for Wake:

On Defense:
1.) 1st and foremost, blitz on every play. I mean every single one. Use different blitzes. JoJo has looked good doing that at times from the safety position. Spence can do it. Adkins needs to get involved, Sharton as well. Heck even send some CB blitzes like we did with Brandon Harris against UNC. For an offense that has no rhythm, no go to guy, a shaking run game, sending tons of different blitzes will be murdered to them and will take them out of the game from the get go. Their OL isn't to the point where we shouldn't be able to get good pressure with the right blitz packages. Bailey needs to have a big game. I'd be sending 6 guys every time. We could even have guys like Marcus Robinson drop back into coverage in certain packages, send someone else to rush instead to create more chaos for them to deal with.
2.) Double up on Boldin. I'd have Bruce Johnson and Brandon Harris rotating on him all game as well as having Reddick/Ryan Hill keeping tabs and helping from the safety spot. He's their only pass catcher. Keep him out of the game.
3.) Sending lots of blitzes to rattle Skinner as well as doubling up on Boldin takes out any threat of a big gain. I am not too worried about the run because frankly, not alot of teams can run on us and sending 6 guys every play will destroy their run game, but the 1 thing I would do is have a QB spy. We where blitz heavy at FSU and Ponder ran right by us. We can't let that happen again. This team doesn't have the playmakers that FSU does so we literally start off having only half the field to worry about, Keep a spy to limit big QB scrambles if the blitz over pursues.

Final Note: For those keeping count. We would be rushing 6 guys every player and having 1 QB spy. Thats 7 in the box and 4 in coverage. I know we like to play alot of zone but I think a cover 1 is best for this game. Keep a CB and safety/nickel on Boldin, play 1 safety deep, 1 CB alone by himself on the other WR and send the rest after Skinner. Make Skinner deal with rushed, quick decision-making because more often then not, he's not gonna find that number 2 WR with 1-1 coverage. He's gonna end up throwing in double coverage and will lead to alot of turnovers for us. It's a very aggresive and could backfire but there's nothing in the WF offense that has shown me they could handle this amount of pressure we would be applying to them.

On offense:

1.) Pound JJ and Coop all game long. Get them a combined 35 carries. Control the clock so our D stays fresh and manage the game slowly but surely against this top notch defense. Mix in some QB scrambles. We should have close to 40-45 carries this game.
2.) Work the TEs in the 8-12 yard range and in the middle. Keep the chains moving. Bryd and Aldarius can do some of this stuff as well. WF has very good DBs so work our bigger targets in the middle against them. We aren't gonna run by their DBs so we need our bigger guys to be physical with them and make the tough catches in order to draw them away from guys like Davon and TB outside.
3.) Limit the bubble screens and Wr screens. Curry will jump all over those and it will cost us.

Final Note: This is all about ball control. Work the bigger WRs to our advantage to keep the chains moving, pound the ball over and over to keep their D on the field and tire them out. We need to outlast that defense in order to put up some points. Don't get too fancy. Play old fashioned smash mouth offense, Run JJ inside, Coop off tackle, use play action often to open the middle for the big WRs and TEs and don't force any passes if our WRs aren't open. The key is to not turn the ball over and tire out their defense. We don't have to score alot to win this game. Just be smart and wear them down so we can get ours and keep them off the field.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2008, 04:30 PM    (permalink
draftguru151
:/
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: RAWR
Posts: 39,496
Reputation: 3904029
draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.draftguru151 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Mmm new sig.
__________________

<Gaius_Baltar> That is correct comahan
<vidae> I ******* LOVE YOU DG
<njx9> <3 dg
draftguru151 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2008, 09:13 AM    (permalink
etk
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 12,140
Reputation: 46580
etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Alphonso Smith and Brandon Ghee are very physical corners. They can handle AJ and Byrd, and if either receiver sells their route early, it could be going the other way. I wouldn't want to take that chance, especially not with Smith who's aggressive and smart....and the defense feeds off his intensity. I think we need to attack with Benjamin and Collier. Start with short routes and then work in some double moves. We can beat their secondary deep, but they handle any time of screen action well: Smith jumps the bubble screen, Curry scrapes to the RB screen.

Running the ball is not a bad idea. I'd give JJ the start and use Cooper when they're more tired.

Boldin only really catches the short stuff. They love to run quick hitch passes, quick outs and slants. Simple WCO offense stuff. The best move would be to bring a safety in the box which you kind of alluded to. This will help key Boldin and bring confusion with blitz packages. Doubling Boldin is not a smart idea because he's not much of a deep threat. It would be a waste of an assignment. This is the kind of game where we need a Prince Kent at corner....maybe Carlos Armour can step up lol.
__________________

sig by BoneKrusher
etk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2008, 06:28 PM    (permalink
djp
Team Leader
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 16,247
Reputation: 536251
djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I will take a conference win any way I can get it, and our run D stepped up after the 1st, but we are lucky that Wake sucks.

We need to continue to get better week after week.
__________________
"Compadres, it is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season. And remember, a shiny new donkey for whomever brings me the head of Colonel Montoya."
djp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2008, 06:29 PM    (permalink
etk
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 12,140
Reputation: 46580
etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Marve should get the start next week. Almost all his incompletions were drops because he throws it so hard. I don't blame him....they'll love him in the NFL.
__________________

sig by BoneKrusher
etk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2008, 06:31 PM    (permalink
djp
Team Leader
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 16,247
Reputation: 536251
djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by etk View Post
Marve should get the start next week. Almost all his incompletions were drops because he throws it so hard. I don't blame him....they'll love him in the NFL.
He does throw it too hard sometimes, though.
__________________
"Compadres, it is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season. And remember, a shiny new donkey for whomever brings me the head of Colonel Montoya."
djp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2008, 06:37 PM    (permalink
etk
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 12,140
Reputation: 46580
etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

It's hard to tell a quarterback to take air off the ball. It screws up your timing and rhythm. If he throws it less hard it will slow his release and lead to batted balls. We just need to catch the missiles.
__________________

sig by BoneKrusher
etk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2008, 06:40 PM    (permalink
djp
Team Leader
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 16,247
Reputation: 536251
djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by etk View Post
It's hard to tell a quarterback to take air off the ball. It screws up your timing and rhythm. If he throws it less hard it will slow his release and lead to batted balls. We just need to catch the missiles.
Or Marve could learn to throw with some touch.. that's what the offseason and your QB coach is for.

You don't see other big-armed QB's use all their arm strength on simple throws.
__________________
"Compadres, it is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season. And remember, a shiny new donkey for whomever brings me the head of Colonel Montoya."
djp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2008, 08:29 PM    (permalink
SuperKevin
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Wading waist deep in the tears of Redskins fans
Posts: 17,014
Reputation: 67370
SuperKevin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperKevin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperKevin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperKevin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperKevin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperKevin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperKevin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperKevin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperKevin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperKevin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperKevin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by djp4516 View Post
Or Marve could learn to throw with some touch.. that's what the offseason and your QB coach is for.

You don't see other big-armed QB's use all their arm strength on simple throws.
Unless you go to the Jeff George school of quarterbacking
SuperKevin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2008, 03:17 PM    (permalink
etk
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 12,140
Reputation: 46580
etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.etk is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Or Michael Vick.

But Marve does throw with nice touch when he goes deep. He rockets the short ones because they need to get there quickly...our receivers just can't catch (aside from TB).
__________________

sig by BoneKrusher
etk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2008, 07:31 PM    (permalink
Joeyjr09
 
Posts: n/a
Reputation:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by etk View Post
Or Michael Vick.

But Marve does throw with nice touch when he goes deep. He rockets the short ones because they need to get there quickly...our receivers just can't catch (aside from TB).
He does have good touch on his deep ball. He throws a beautiful deep ball.

But to say our WRs can catch isn't entirely fair. He throws way too much heat on the short passes. Adding the problem is that he doesnt hit the WR in the chest on the short ones. He throws them too high. If your gonna throw a short pass that hard it needs to hit the guy in the chest because if a WR is gonna get a hot pass like that, he has to use his body or he will drop it. But you can't throw high heat on a short pass. Not many WRs will come down with it.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2008, 11:55 PM    (permalink
Geomar
Rookie
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Miami,FL
Posts: 166
Reputation: 270
Geomar hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.Geomar hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by etk View Post

(aside from TB).
And Aldarius "Glue Hands" "The Truth" Johnson.
__________________

Graig Cooper makes opposing defenses look silly.
Geomar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2008, 09:08 AM    (permalink
Joeyjr09
 
Posts: n/a
Reputation:
Default

I think you are getting people mixed up.

Aldarius Johnson is "glue hands"

Lamar Miller is "the truth"
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2008, 10:50 AM    (permalink
MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
Moderator
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: KO-V>O-V
Posts: 14,837
Reputation: 1045649
MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joeyjr09 View Post
I think you are getting people mixed up.

Aldarius Johnson is "glue hands"

Lamar Miller is "the truth"
Actually it's Aldarius "Any word describing awesomeness fits here" Johnson.
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Wright View Post
Terrellezzzzzzzz Pryorzzzzzzzz!
Quote:
Originally Posted by njx9 View Post
do i tell you when to flip the burger?
MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2008, 08:30 PM    (permalink
Geomar
Rookie
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Miami,FL
Posts: 166
Reputation: 270
Geomar hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.Geomar hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joeyjr09 View Post
I think you are getting people mixed up.

Aldarius Johnson is "glue hands"

Lamar Miller is "the truth"
I've always called Aldarius "the truth" and "glue hands".

It's plain and simple. Kid is the truth.

Travis Benjamin is "The Blur from Belle Glade" =)

It's great to see all these young wideouts doing so well.
__________________

Graig Cooper makes opposing defenses look silly.
Geomar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2008, 02:51 PM    (permalink
thebow305
2009 NFL Mock Draft Champ
All-Pro
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: South Florida
Posts: 8,709
Reputation: 335869
thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.thebow305 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

WHAT A WIN!!!

That's probably the most excited I've been all year watching Canes football.

As much as I love Marve, Jacory needs to be the starter.

PS: Our Freshman OWN!!
__________________

Dolphins Dream Draft: 1. C.J. Mosley 2. Kelvin Benjamin 3. Ja'Wuan James 4. Brandon Thomas 5. Xavier Grimble 6. Tyler Gaffney 7. Ross Cockrell
thebow305 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2008, 03:48 PM    (permalink
djp
Team Leader
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 16,247
Reputation: 536251
djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.djp is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

J-Rock was phenomenal on the last drive in regulation and in OT. The TD to send it to OT was part luck, part huge ****ing balls on Jacory.
__________________
"Compadres, it is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season. And remember, a shiny new donkey for whomever brings me the head of Colonel Montoya."
djp is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.