2013 Canes - Page 48

Hollywood · 02-02-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TACKLE

Aldarius Johnson = Anquan Boldin

Maybe, but I don't see the 'muck'iness in AJ that Anquan had.

TACKLE · 02-02-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood

Maybe, but I don't see the 'muck'iness in AJ that Anquan had.

Not quite sure what you mean by "muckiness". Is that supposed to be like grittiness. If so, Anquan has the edge but don't forget how young AJ is.

Hollywood · 02-02-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TACKLE

Not quite sure what you mean by "muckiness". Is that supposed to be like grittiness. If so, Anquan has the edge but don't forget how young AJ is.

Anquan is from the muck, which is Belle Glade, Pahokee and Clewiston and those guys usually always have off the chart agility/moves.

Anquan coming out was a damn good QB and I bet if he was coming out now with the advancement of the spread he would have played QB too and been a good one at the college level. He had some serious moves.

etk · 02-02-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood

Anquan is from the muck, which is Belle Glade, Pahokee and Clewiston and those guys usually always have off the chart agility/moves.

Anquan coming out was a damn good QB and I bet if he was coming out now with the advancement of the spread he would have played QB too and been a good one at the college level. He had some serious moves.

Wasn't he Mr. Florida football playing QB at Pahokee? I've always been surprised that he doesn't get used on more trick plays.

TACKLE · 02-02-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by etk

Wasn't he Mr. Florida football playing QB at Pahokee?

Yes he was.

JoeyJr09 · 02-02-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TACKLE

Aldarius Johnson = Anquan Boldin

Pretty bad comparison IMO.

Bolden has way more speed and moves while Aldarius is more physical when going after the ball.

Hines Ward has been the best comparison I've seen.

TACKLE · 02-02-2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyJr09

Pretty bad comparison IMO.

Bolden has way more speed and moves while Aldarius is more physical when going after the ball.

Hines Ward has been the best comparison I've seen.

Fair enough. I just thought that they both had similar size, are physical WR's without great speed who compensate for it in other areas of the game. Though I agree, Boldin is much better at getting YAC and making plays in the open field where as AJ is a guy with strong hands who can go up and get the ball but won't give you a whole lot after the catch. Though he is a very nice possession receiver who can move the chains.

thebow305 · 02-03-2009, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by etk

Harris? As in Courtney Harris? I'll take Andrew Smith or Steven Wesley over him.

If Bailey moves to DT we will rotate Robinson, Ojomo and Vernon on passing downs and have Smith & Wesley as our base LDEs with Dye possibly getting some PT.

Before his season ending injury, Courtney Harris would have started for us last year and looked like one of the most promising players on our D. He is one of the more experienced players and I expect a big role for him this season.

Hey joey, so you think Telemaque is expected to start? What about Holton? Is he in the mix at all? And what is going to happen with Randy Phillips?

Hokie_Pokie08 · 02-03-2009, 01:57 PM

What is y'alls opinion about Antrel Rolle's solution to the struggles of the U?

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These boys are hurting. Most of all, they're hurting themselves and they're hurting the program. I think they need to get that attitude back. Go steal a couple of cars, go break into a couple of houses. Do whatever it takes just to get that attitude back. Go out there and do something bad, it doesn't matter. We'll forgive. Just bring that attitude back to the 'U'. We need it.

JoeyJr09 · 02-03-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hokie_Pokie08

What is y'alls opinion about Antrel Rolle's solution to the struggles of the U?

Antrel Rolle's dad is a police officer. He is one of the more stand up kids to come thru here.

I'm pretty sure your smart enough to tell he's just messing around.

fenikz · 02-03-2009, 03:02 PM

the interview, at 7:00 in

http://www.wqam.com/index.php?page=3...n5eti79 ms532

scroll just past about 1/3 down on the player and you can find it, 1-28 is the date

etk · 02-03-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by thebow305

Before his season ending injury, Courtney Harris would have started for us last year and looked like one of the most promising players on our D. He is one of the more experienced players and I expect a big role for him this season.

Hey joey, so you think Telemaque is expected to start? What about Holton? Is he in the mix at all? And what is going to happen with Randy Phillips?

I don't put much faith into players returning from injury like that. I'll believe it when I see it with him and Randy Phillips. If they can contribute like Cook did this year I'll be happy, but we have other guys.

JoeyJr09 · 02-03-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thebow305

Before his season ending injury, Courtney Harris would have started for us last year and looked like one of the most promising players on our D. He is one of the more experienced players and I expect a big role for him this season.

Hey joey, so you think Telemaque is expected to start? What about Holton? Is he in the mix at all? And what is going to happen with Randy Phillips?

-Courtney Harris was only getting a chance to start temporarily because Bailey and Moncur were out with injuries. He would have started opposite Ojomo and lost his job as soon as Marcus Robinson was ready.Harris has no future here. Our DE rotation is set with Bailey, Robinson, Ojomo, Wesley, Smith, Hardin and the incoming freshmen like Dye and Vernon. No need to waste any PT on Harris, use the very minimal time he would have gotten to develop the young guys.

-No one is expected to start anywhere at this point. They force everyone to compete. But they did say Telemaque was on pace to replace Reddick in the starting lineup as soon as game 4 last season in not for the injury. Nothing performance wise has caused that notice to change from my understanding so IMO he will get a good shot to start game 1.

-Randy Phillips (and Eric Moncur) have both applied for medical redshirts. Phillips was expected one last I heard. No word on Moncur yet. He was thinking of just going on to the NFL.

-CJ Holton will likely be a top backup and ST player until next season.

Here's my opinion on the depth chart for next season:

QB- Jacory Harris, Taylor Cook
RB- Craig Cooper, Lee Chambers, Javarris James
FB- Patrick Hill
WR1- Aldarius Johnson, Sam Shields, Tommy Streeter
WR2- Travis Benjamin, LaRon Byrd, Leonard Hankerson
WRslot- Theron Collier, Kendall Thompkins, Davon Johnson
TE- Dedrick Epps (when he returns), Richard Gordon, Jordan Futch
LT- Jason Fox, Matt Pipho
LG- Brandon Washington, Tyler Horn
C- AJ Trump, Harland Gunn
RG- Joel Figeroa, Jared Wheeler
RT- Orlando Franklin, Chris Barney

DE- Allen Bailey, Steve Wesley, Gavin Hardin
DE- Marcus Robinson, Adewale Ojomo, Andrew Smith
DT- Marcus Forston, Micanor Regis, Chaz Washington
DT- Josh Holmes, Joe Joseph, Jeremey Lewis
OLB- Colin McCarthy, Arthur Brown
MLB- Darryl Sharpton, Ray Ray Armstrong
OLB- Sean Spence, Ramon Buchanan
CB- Brandon Harris, Brandon McGee
CB- DeMarcus Van Dyke, Chavez Grant, Kayvon Webster
FS- Vaughn Telemaque, Ryan Hill
SS- JoJo Nicolas, Randy Phillips, CJ Holton

etk · 02-03-2009, 03:16 PM

Can't disagree with those lineups. I think Grant will start over DVD but that one could go either way.

BRAVEHEART · 02-03-2009, 03:21 PM

Ray Ray is projected to play ILB?

JoeyJr09 · 02-03-2009, 03:38 PM

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Ray Ray is projected to play ILB?

We are gonna start him at Safety but hes expected to move to LB within the year and at his size and athletism, MLB makes the most sense.

But its just an educated opinion.

TACKLE · 02-03-2009, 04:44 PM

Spence, Ray Ray and Brown

Oh man. The LB core in a year or two is going to be ridiculously athletic. It's gonna be scary.

BRAVEHEART · 02-03-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyJr09

We are gonna start him at Safety but hes expected to move to LB within the year and at his size and athletism, MLB makes the most sense.

But its just an educated opinion.

I was thinking OLB or TE, but you know 100x more than I do when it comes to this topic so I'll take your word. At MLB while he is heavy, he would still need to add more weight to his frame and become stout. From what I've seen (from his highlights) he's a tall guy who looks "bigger" than his listed height and weight (well his legs anyway). His speed and range would be good on the outside where he'd be able to use his length to stop people sideline to sideline (IMO).

Hokie_Pokie08 · 02-03-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyJr09

Antrel Rolle's dad is a police officer. He is one of the more stand up kids to come thru here.

I'm pretty sure your smart enough to tell he's just messing around.

Wasn't Rolle arrested for punching a police officer when he was at Miami?

etk · 02-03-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyJr09

We are gonna start him at Safety but hes expected to move to LB within the year and at his size and athletism, MLB makes the most sense.

But its just an educated opinion.

Arthur Brown or Sean Spence make more sense at MLB. Armstrong is an OLB or rush DE (don't really need him there) if he stays on D.

JoeyJr09 · 02-03-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hokie_Pokie08

Wasn't Rolle arrested for punching a police officer when he was at Miami?

I don't remember all the details, but it was right before the NFL draft when he was about to be a top 10 pick and there was some jealousy issues and stuff and he was basically targetted by some cops that didn't like him or his family.

He was cleared of any wrongdoing.

One of those cases of players being targets.

djp · 02-03-2009, 06:18 PM

That was also a case of mistaken identity. Nothing to that at all. I believe he and his father won a lawsuit against the cops who "arrested" him.

JoeyJr09 · 02-03-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by etk

Arthur Brown or Sean Spence make more sense at MLB. Armstrong is an OLB or rush DE (don't really need him there) if he stays on D.

I think he could stick at MLB.

Hes got the frame for it and he sticks his nose in the action very well.

I never saw the Arthur Brown or Sean Spence to MLB talk. They are typical Miami OLBs all the way.

Ray Ray looks better inside to me. He runs and hits well enough for it and his size is a better fit there.

Not to mention, we dont need him at OLB. Brown, Spence, Futch, Buchanan are all OLBs.

thebow305 · 02-03-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyJr09

-Courtney Harris was only getting a chance to start temporarily because Bailey and Moncur were out with injuries. He would have started opposite Ojomo and lost his job as soon as Marcus Robinson was ready.Harris has no future here. Our DE rotation is set with Bailey, Robinson, Ojomo, Wesley, Smith, Hardin and the incoming freshmen like Dye and Vernon. No need to waste any PT on Harris, use the very minimal time he would have gotten to develop the young guys.

-No one is expected to start anywhere at this point. They force everyone to compete. But they did say Telemaque was on pace to replace Reddick in the starting lineup as soon as game 4 last season in not for the injury. Nothing performance wise has caused that notice to change from my understanding so IMO he will get a good shot to start game 1.

-Randy Phillips (and Eric Moncur) have both applied for medical redshirts. Phillips was expected one last I heard. No word on Moncur yet. He was thinking of just going on to the NFL.

-CJ Holton will likely be a top backup and ST player until next season.

Here's my opinion on the depth chart for next season:

QB- Jacory Harris, Taylor Cook
RB- Craig Cooper, Lee Chambers, Javarris James
FB- Patrick Hill
WR1- Aldarius Johnson, Sam Shields, Tommy Streeter
WR2- Travis Benjamin, LaRon Byrd, Leonard Hankerson
WRslot- Theron Collier, Kendall Thompkins, Davon Johnson
TE- Dedrick Epps (when he returns), Richard Gordon, Jordan Futch
LT- Jason Fox, Matt Pipho
LG- Brandon Washington, Tyler Horn
C- AJ Trump, Harland Gunn
RG- Joel Figeroa, Jared Wheeler
RT- Orlando Franklin, Chris Barney

DE- Allen Bailey, Steve Wesley, Gavin Hardin
DE- Marcus Robinson, Adewale Ojomo, Andrew Smith
DT- Marcus Forston, Micanor Regis, Chaz Washington
DT- Josh Holmes, Joe Joseph, Jeremey Lewis
OLB- Colin McCarthy, Arthur Brown
MLB- Darryl Sharpton, Ray Ray Armstrong
OLB- Sean Spence, Ramon Buchanan
CB- Brandon Harris, Brandon McGee
CB- DeMarcus Van Dyke, Chavez Grant, Kayvon Webster
FS- Vaughn Telemaque, Ryan Hill
SS- JoJo Nicolas, Randy Phillips, CJ Holton

Just a questions here with that lineup for me...

I know they were talking about Futch to TE when he was being recruited, but is that really going to happen now? Is Holmes really going to start, because that worries me a bit. I like DVD alot, but I'm not sure he starts over that bum Grant, even though I would love that. Wouldn't Phillips get the nod at SS? I know Nicolas started last year, but he wasn't all that spectacular, while Phillips is a All-American calibre Safety IMO. And I HATE Ray Ray as a MLB. I think that would be a tremendous waste of his talents and would limit him greatly IMO. He belongs at either safety or OLB, bottom line.

JoeyJr09 · 02-03-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by thebow305

Just a questions here with that lineup for me...

I know they were talking about Futch to TE when he was being recruited, but is that really going to happen now? Is Holmes really going to start, because that worries me a bit. I like DVD alot, but I'm not sure he starts over that bum Grant, even though I would love that. Wouldn't Phillips get the nod at SS? I know Nicolas started last year, but he wasn't all that spectacular, while Phillips is a All-American calibre Safety IMO. And I HATE Ray Ray as a MLB. I think that would be a tremendous waste of his talents and would limit him greatly IMO. He belongs at either safety or OLB, bottom line.

-The Futch to TE talk isn't just during and after his recruitment. It's been going on all year. Coaches aren't sure if he can bulk up enough to play LB. He's struggling with that.

-Your worried about Holmes starting? Really? He played better then just about any DT on the roster not named Forston when he was finally right last season. He is an injury prone guy for sure but he has alot more talent then Washington and Joseph. Plus I seriously doubt Regis is getting the nod this soon. Holmes there is the right choice IMO.

-Phillips is coming off a nasty season ending injury. He's a question mark. You can't put him into the starting lineup because you have no idea what you will get from him. Have to work him in slowly. Besides, if you thought he was an AA last year before the injury, you are blind.

-Disagree on Ray Ray. I think he's the best suited LB we have to play MLB. The rest are classic OLBs. Ray Ray isn't. He's got height, a good frame for bulk, he's super fast and he's versatile enough to cover backs and especially the QB runs (which Cook sucked at). He's a great fit at MLB IMO. I think the Ray Ray safety talk is getting ridiculous. Rivals bumped him to 13 because he's gonna be a LB at the next level and LBs hold alot more value then safeties. We have a million guys that can play safety. Millions. Holton, Maque, Kent, Webster, Wylie are all freshmen. Then we got Phillips, Nicolas as upperclassmen. We don't need Ray Ray there. We need him at LB where we are pretty thin.