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Old 06-07-2007, 02:43 AM    (permalink
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15th.. Ouch.. Although I can't really say I disagree. Hopefully Sabby Piscitelli and Tanard Jackson can help improve those rankings in the future.
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I think the Saints should be higher TBH. KK/Harper will be very good. At least #8.

Pretty good list though.
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Wow. The Vikings are way too high.
Agreed. Having a bunch of okay safeties shouldnt put us near the top in any list.
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I don't know how our safeties can be 3rd in the NFC when we considered using our #7 pick on Landry.
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wow, the nfc tandems for saftetys are pretty bad... none of those teams have a proven duo.....

not sure if the cardinals would be in the top 5 for nfl tandems...
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Better DEs and better wide receivers imo.

Gibril is probably a top 5 safety at the moment imo, very underrated.
That is questionable.

The NFC definitely doesn't have overall teams that compare to the AFC.

Everybody is in love with the Saints but the fact is they only went 10-6 in the weak NFC. They would not have made the playoffs in the AFC.
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I'd have the Eagles, Redskins and then Cards as my top 3.

And the Bears higher, pending Brown is healthy and AA isn't playing.
Until Landry plays a snap in the NFL, the Redskins duo is not top 3. Right now you can't say that he's gonna be good, when he will have at least 1 year of starting experience you could judge him. And Taylor didn't have that hell of a year too last season to putting the tandem so high just because of him...

The Cowboys duo ranking will depend on Ken Hamlin. If he can provide good coverage downfield they will be very good. Roy Williams was amazing when he was playing alongside Woodson.
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As already mentioned, Vikings and Niners that high is ******* ridiculous. Anyone that could make a legit argument that Michael Lewis-Mark Roman is a better duo than Mike Brown-Adam Archuleta (or Danieal Manning) needs to be in a straight jacket. I'm actually pretty low on the Bears safties, but I wouldn't even take Lewis or Roman on our team, let alone as starters.
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As already mentioned, Vikings and Niners that high is ******* ridiculous. Anyone that could make a legit argument that Michael Lewis-Mark Roman is a better duo than Mike Brown-Adam Archuleta (or Danieal Manning) needs to be in a straight jacket. I'm actually pretty low on the Bears safties, but I wouldn't even take Lewis or Roman on our team, let alone as starters.
49ers were a huge surprise. Mark Roman couldn't even stick with the Packers who have had a revolving door at safety as of late.
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Until Landry plays a snap in the NFL, the Redskins duo is not top 3. Right now you can't say that he's gonna be good, when he will have at least 1 year of starting experience you could judge him. And Taylor didn't have that hell of a year too last season to putting the tandem so high just because of him...

The Cowboys duo ranking will depend on Ken Hamlin. If he can provide good coverage downfield they will be very good. Roy Williams was amazing when he was playing alongside Woodson.
All Roy Williams is, is a run stopping S.
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All Roy Williams is, is a run stopping S.
This is not true. Roy started last year well in coverage too. The problem with the FS forced the Cowboys to use him as a cover-2 safety and way off the LOS. The result was a drastic downgrade of Roy's performances.

And if you look at the games Roy played with Woodson you'll find out that he was great, because he didn't have to cover a lot of field but he was allowed to play the short and intermediate zones where he is a very effective player...
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What are you talking about? :D
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Roman played a solid year of coverage in SF last year. He isn't going to make any probowls, but he is a solid NFL safety.

Who did GB cut him for again? Ohhhhh.....Marquand Manuel....that worked out well...
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8. Falcons. Lawyer Milloy, 33, can still pack a wallop and is strong in run support. Jimmy Williams and Chris Crocker, both of whom struggle in coverage, will compete at free safety.
yeah Jimmy struggles. at CB. not at S though. Jimmy is a beast as a S ion terms of coverage and is that all around safety. reminds me of Scott Case actually (I never saw Case live but I watched old videos of him before and he was a physical corner before he moved to FS and then near the end SS). Crocker sucks in coverage though and will be moved to SS this year IMO.
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He picked off Mark "Noodle Arm" Brunell. I bet if that was Campbell, it would have lasered right through his hands :)


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Edit: Then it ends with a Sean Taylor (better saftey) hit ftw.
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who ever drafts Courtney Greene(if he enters) will immidiately have he best safety duo, no matter who he's with :)
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Williams tried his ridiculous horse collar and failed. It's a shame that he didn't fail against Tyrone Calico and Musa Smith..
I guess he figures that if he blows out their leg, they can't burn him deep.
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Roman played a solid year of coverage in SF last year. He isn't going to make any probowls, but he is a solid NFL safety.

Who did GB cut him for again? Ohhhhh.....Marquand Manuel....that worked out well...
I'd take Manuel over Roman any day.
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The NFC has terrible safeties.
Duos, at least. Which is why I'd have:

1. Washington Redskins

Drafting a stud SS like Laron Landry, who will go to multiple Pro Bowls imo, is noteworthy in itself. But the acquisition of Landry in addition to the team ending its failed attempt at hybrid safeties, allowing each safety to focus on their specific roles only, allows Sean Taylor to not have to playing in the box so much (making up for a porous defensive line) and be able to work solely as the ballhawk free safety he can be. I normally don't go for what I see on paper, but I really think this duo will be the class of the NFC sooner rather than later and could hang with the best of the AFC.

2. Chicago Bears

The addition of Adam Archuleta was a great one and should get more pub, I think, he's displayed he could play well at SS for Lovie Smith in St. Louis and this Bears defense is a better unit by leaps and bounds. Reports are that Mike Brown has fully recovered and is ready to man the FS position, and even if he doesn't, I wouldn't overlook that Daniael Manning has an all-important year of experience under his belt at the position.
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Roman played a solid year of coverage in SF last year. He isn't going to make any probowls, but he is a solid NFL safety.

Who did GB cut him for again? Ohhhhh.....Marquand Manuel....that worked out well...
did you forget how our WR owned Roman that day or do you need to be reminded again? Roman not even worth starting, he cried about us brining in Manuel. He doesn't like to battle to play.

I would take the redskins Safties over any of these guys.
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