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Old 06-09-2007, 11:17 AM    (permalink
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Jon Gruden says Garcia has a BIG lead over Chris Simms going into the preseason. Can't say I'd make the same choice but they'll probably do the same with either QB
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With how Garcia played at the end of the last year, I can see why. There has to be a lot of certainty there with Simms.
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Old 06-09-2007, 11:35 AM    (permalink
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not a good decision, Chris Simms was good but he got injured. He led the Bucs to the playoffs the year before. Garcia was good in offenses like the 49ers and Eagles that pass a lot and are "west coast". But the Bucs he does not fit, this is a bad decision
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not a good decision, Chris Simms was good but he got injured. He led the Bucs to the playoffs the year before. Garcia was good in offenses like the 49ers and Eagles that pass a lot and are "west coast". But the Bucs he does not fit, this is a bad decision
Garcia passed less than 50% of the time when he was with the eagles, and don't the Bucs run the WCO?
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The title is miss leading he said he has a big lead but has not named any one starter.
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Why do I keep hearing people say that Garcia isn't a good fit for the Bucs offense?
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Old 06-09-2007, 11:49 AM    (permalink
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Is this really a shocker I don't think so
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not a good decision, Chris Simms was good but he got injured. He led the Bucs to the playoffs the year before. Garcia was good in offenses like the 49ers and Eagles that pass a lot and are "west coast". But the Bucs he does not fit, this is a bad decision
Chris Simms was not good before he got injured. He was horrid last year, go check the stats.
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Can't be suprised at all b/c Gruden doesn't like Simms anyways
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I'm not surprised by this at all. Garcia is much better than Simms, who imo shouldn't be looked at as a franchise QB.
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Old 06-09-2007, 12:13 PM    (permalink
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I don't see this working. Yes, both the Eagles and The Bucs run the WC. However, the Eagles run a more traditionl WC offense. The Bucs, on the other hand, run the Gruden system which is a more modified version. The Eagles run more designed rollouts and throws that make it easier on the QB. The Bucs don't roll out as much, and when they do, it's more mixed right and left (from what I saw) than the Eagles, who roll almost exclusively to the right. Garcia had great success rolling to the right, but I don't know how he'll do rolling to the left. The only success I saw him have rolling to the left was a short roll to the left which wasn't designed in New Orleans. Other than that, he always tried to go right. Also, if Garcia is rolling right in Tampa Bay, that could be a very bad thing. The right side of that line isn't what is was in Philly. So, he could be forced to go left or be killed in the process of rolling right. It might not seem like that big of a deal, but rolling out is Garcia's bread and butter. It could be a problem. Also, let's not forget Garcia hasn't been the most consistant QB through his career. Anyway, I see Garcia being below average with a few flashes of brilliance here and there.
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I've never seen the appeal in Chris Simms, I haven't been shy about saying that, and the fact that he lost the job so easily and early to Jeff Garcia of all people only speaks immensely to that.

(Of course Gruden wants Jake the Snake to come out of retirement, Plummer would be the best quarterback on the active roster if he did.)
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The right side of the line is actually one of the only things Tampa has going for them now. With 2nd year guys Davin Joseph and Jeremy Trueblood penciled in as starters that right side is probably the bright spot on an otherwise relatively inadequate line.
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Why do I keep hearing people say that Garcia isn't a good fit for the Bucs offense?
He is a perfect fit. Haven't heard that before.
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I highly doubt Garcia has learned our offense in 3 or so OTA's.
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I highly doubt Garcia has learned our offense in 3 or so OTA's.
I highly doubt it's much different than his past team's offenses.
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Bucs need to win now, Gruden is a guy whose job (not that I think it should be) is in jeapordy and he cant have another season like the last one and in that offense Garcia can be good. I felt like they signed Garcia to be the starter.
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Im not surprised that Garcia is the starter since Gruden really liked him and never liked Simms too much. I don't like that he was named so early, you should wait until preseason atleast.
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wow, that's a bit harsh for simms isn't it?
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Not surprised by this at all, Gruden needs to win now and Garcia gives the Bucs the best chance to win the most games.
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Yeah, if Gruden doesn't win right now, you'll see him filling a coaching vaccancy next year. My guess is he needs to win 8 or 9 to stay.
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Did some of you actually read the article? It does not say Garcia is the starter, it says he has an early lead to win the job.
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