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Peyton Manning 24 15.29%
Joe Montana 63 40.13%
John Elway 51 32.48%
Johnny U 19 12.10%
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Old 06-09-2007, 09:36 PM    (permalink
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Unitas, he changed the way quarterback was played and was arguably the toughest quarterback of all-time. If you look at his numbers then and compare them to now they aren't that impress but he retired holding almost every record for a quarterback. He finished in the top ten for completions ten times, yards ten times, and touchdowns five times. The first quarterback ever to throw for 40,000 despite playing in twelve and fourteen game seasons. The record of 47 straight games with a touchdown pass will never be broken. He's the greatest of all-time in my eyes.
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Unitas was beast but I would still take Elway over him because he had a much better career. Unitas rly should not be in this conversation IMO. He should be replaced with Marino on the poll
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LOL. Tear into him if you want, it's where this thread would inevitably go. just don't make anybody cry. People will always have difference in opinion, they just got to back it up.
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LOL. Tear into him if you want, it's where this thread would inevitably go. just don't make anybody cry. People will always have difference in opinion, they just got to back it up.
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No I know about how great Johnny U was and all his accomplichments. But he is not a top 3-4 QB of all time. He is top 10 definatly but the best or even top 4 I dont think so. The only Qbs that can be mentioned as best ever and actually have a good argument are Elway, Montana, Marino(yet not having a ring always gets him thrown out), and Manning

Edit: here is a poll where people rank the top QBs ever and Unitas is at #7
http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sport...tranker?id=662 (just do the rankings and submit it to see the final results of the whole poll)
And the voters at ESPN said GB should take a WR.
I dont see how cant even say hes top 2
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In all honesty, I would want Steve Young.
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In all honesty, I would want Steve Young.
Wonderful but those are the only four options. It relates to a post Neo made saying Manning was by far the greatest quarterback ever and Elway, Montana, and Unitas couldn't even hold his jockstrap.
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Of those in the poll, I'll go with Elway. Elway had freak athletic ability. His arm may well have been the strongest ever in the NFL (Russell not withstanding) and he could move in the pocket.

He single handedly took the Broncos to the Super Bowl a few times when they otherwise would've been mediocre at best.

All things considered, I think Dan Marino's the best ever, but Elway is really really close for me.
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Sporting New's Top 10 (They made a top 50 Greatest QB's Magazine once)
1-Johnny U
2-Montana
3-Otto Graham (3Time MVP)
4-John Elway
5-Sammy Baugh (Threw 25 TD's, huge for his day)
6-Dan Marino
7-Brett Favre
8-Terry Bradshaw
9-Roger Staubach
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Sad that Unitas isn't running away with this. I guess it's a reflection of who people here have seen play though, which is why Elway is slightly edging Montana. Give Manning 5 more years, and he'll be close to every single passing record, and for those to whom it matters, he has a championship. With his current numbers, Manning is already in the "team photo" for best QB ever, and that's after only 9 years in the NFL, which is pretty impressive to me. That said, I don't think anyone can surpass Johnny U.
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Sporting New's Top 10 (They made a top 50 Greatest QB's Magazine once)
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8-Terry Bradshaw
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Bradshaw 8th? WOW. Bradshaw is basically the proof that Peyton Manning is not a product of his surrounding talent, and it's a disgarce that he's a HOFer.
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Sad that Unitas isn't running away with this. I guess it's a reflection of who people here have seen play though, which is why Elway is slightly edging Montana. Give Manning 5 more years, and he'll be close to every single passing record, and for those to whom it matters, he has a championship. With his current numbers, Manning is already in the "team photo" for best QB ever, and that's after only 9 years in the NFL, which is pretty impressive to me. That said, I don't think anyone can surpass Johnny U.
It's unfair to both Unitas and the players of this generation to compare them to each other. They don't even play the same game. Yeah, it's football, but the game has evolved to the point that it is completely different than it was in Unitas's era. It can be fun to compare players from different eras for arguments sake, but in reality there is really no way to definitively say a guy like Unitas was any better than Montana or Marino. Or even Drew Bledsoe, for that matter. I'd imagine that a guy like Carson Palmer would be completely unstoppable if he had played in the '60s. But that's just my imagination. In the realm of reality, there's really no basis for a meaningful comparison.
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its Elway for me, dude was gifted. Maning did not deserve the MVP, Rhodes or Addai or someone on defense did.
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How the **** is Unitas only one vote ahead of Manning? You people really need to learn your football history.
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Bradshaw 8th? WOW. Bradshaw is basically the proof that Peyton Manning is not a product of his surrounding talent, and it's a disgarce that he's a HOFer.
Bradshaw deserves at least top ten. HE WON 4! SUPERBOWLS! Lets see if Manning can ever get close to that
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How the **** is Unitas only one vote ahead of Manning? You people really need to learn your football history.
Reading about what a player did isn't nearly as effective as it would have been to watch him live for years.
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It's unfair to both Unitas and the players of this generation to compare them to each other. They don't even play the same game. Yeah, it's football, but the game has evolved to the point that it is completely different than it was in Unitas's era. It can be fun to compare players from different eras for arguments sake, but in reality there is really no way to definitively say a guy like Unitas was any better than Montana or Marino. Or even Drew Bledsoe, for that matter. I'd imagine that a guy like Carson Palmer would be completely unstoppable if he had played in the '60s. But that's just my imagination. In the realm of reality, there's really no basis for a meaningful comparison.
Great point
An old friend of mine (And I mean he's old, he actually met Johnny U) believes the same thing
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Wonderful but those are the only four options. It relates to a post Neo made saying Manning was by far the greatest quarterback ever and Elway, Montana, and Unitas couldn't even hold his jockstrap.
Well thats pretty insane, Manning is a great QB and will go down as one of the top 5. But when you start tring to really compare and argue who is better its an endless fight. To claim they (Elway, Montana and Unitas) can't hold his jockstrap is reaching a point of gayness in its own right, it seems maybe he justs needs some reason to think of Manning's jockstrap.
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