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Old 06-18-2007, 12:11 PM    (permalink
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Whatever, this argument is getting stale, I'm done debating it, have someone else convice you your wrong.
Again run away.... just give me a reason or 2 that Elway's first 8 seasons were better than McNabbs. I understand this might be hard for you to do, to challange your beliefs and keep up your hatered for McNabb, while showing love for your boy elway. However, for me this is fun EVERY SINGLE FACT is on my side and you people's love for Elway hides you from the light. This is like Plato's allegory of the cave.
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Seriously....what the ****.
Answer the question... how is McNabb's first 8 seasons not better than Elways.

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Again run away.... just give me a reason or 2 that Elway's first 8 seasons were better than McNabbs. I understand this might be hard for you to do, to challange your beliefs and keep up your hatered for McNabb, while showing love for your boy elway. However, for me this is fun EVERY SINGLE FACT is on my side and you people's love for Elway hides you from the light. This is like Plato's allegory of the cave.
EVERY SINGLE FACT?????????? Please go get EVERY SINGLE FACT and show
how EVERY SINGLE FACT proves your side.
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EVERY SINGLE FACT?????????? Please go get EVERY SINGLE FACT and show
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Stats (rushing/passing), Playoff wins(equal amount of losses), leadership... just plain being better at football.
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Elway is a stud, McNabb is a buttwipe with a horrendous chunky soup beard.
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Stats (rushing/passing), Playoff wins(equal amount of losses), leadership... just plain being better at football.
I'll come back in...
What about Super Bowls? McNabb loses that one doesn't he...
I didn't know "Just plain being better at football" was a fact also, sounds like opinion to me...
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Elway is a stud, McNabb is a buttwipe with a horrendous chunky soup beard.
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Answer the question... how is McNabb's first 8 seasons not better than Elways.

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Stats (rushing/passing), Playoff wins(equal amount of losses), leadership... just plain being better at football.
Wow, that's every single fact? And I'm sure those last two are CLEARLY in favor of McNabb, and not just your opinion.
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I'll come back in...
What about Super Bowls? McNabb loses that one doesn't he...
Neither won a superbowl after 8 seasons, elway does have more superbowl losses.

Elway 6-5 in the playoffs, unlike a winner like McNabb who is 7-5
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Elway has more SB losses because he was in more SB. Kinda hard to lose a game you aren't even in.
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Is that 5000 posts like this?
Yeah, probably. Is that 275 posts of retardation?
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Wow, that's every single fact? And I'm sure those last two are CLEARLY in favor of McNabb, and not just your opinion.
The last 2 were kinda sarcastic, but the first 2 are accurate... the fact remains that McNabb after 8 seasons has to be viewed as the more successful QB by anybody who is logical. This is just simply a logic test for this board. This board shows that the Majority of the members are not logical. I am not the type to bring race into this... but it may be a factor on why dispite being significantly better at football (over the first 8 seasons)McNabb is viewed as he is and Elway is viewed how he is... just throwing that out there.
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Neither won a superbowl after 8 seasons, elway does have more superbowl losses.

Elway 6-5 in the playoffs, unlike a winner like McNabb who is 7-5
7-5...what a world of differnce from 6-5...wow your right...that one game really separates the winners from the losers..

Like DG151 said, Elway lost more because he got his team to more....not to mention your leadership argument is flawed...Elway was three times the leader McNabb will ever be...
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7-5...what a world of differnce from 6-5...wow your right...that one game really separates the winners from the losers..

Like DG151 said, Elway lost more because he got his team to more....not to mention your leadership argument is flawed...Elway was three times the leader McNabb will ever be...
"he lost more because he got his team to more" HUH 5=5..... i didnt know 5 losses is more than 5 losses... confusing. As for Elway being 3 times the leader McNabb is? for his first 8 years he wasnt. Sorry. Also i agree they are both winners... just McNabb is more of a winner
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That must be it, everyone on this board is clearly illogical and racist, it's definitely not that you're argument is terrible.
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The last 2 were kinda sarcastic, but the first 2 are accurate... the fact remains that McNabb after 8 seasons has to be viewed as the more successful QB by anybody who is logical. This is just simply a logic test for this board. This board shows that the Majority of the members are not logical. I am not the type to bring race into this... but it may be a factor on why dispite being significantly better at football (over the first 8 seasons)McNabb is viewed as he is and Elway is viewed how he is... just throwing that out there.
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I'm not gonna mention the "r" word, I don't want any more infractions, but thats uncalled for and certainly has no place in this conversation... considering I've had infractions for defending things like that before, your way off base.
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"he lost more because he got his team to more" HUH 5=5..... i didnt know 5 losses is more than 5 losses... confusing. As for Elway being 3 times the leader McNabb is? for his first 8 years he wasnt. Sorry. Also i agree they are both winners... just McNabb is more of a winner
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It doesnt matter where you lose in the playoffs its that you win or lose. McNabb's playoff record is better is it not?
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"he lost more because he got his team to more" HUH 5=5..... i didnt know 5 losses is more than 5 losses... confusing. As for Elway being 3 times the leader McNabb is? for his first 8 years he wasnt. Sorry. Also i agree they are both winners... just McNabb is more of a winner
Yeah, 5 does equal 5. We were talking about Super Bowls...remember, Elway went to more of those.

I don't understand where the McNabb leadership argument really comes from either. I like McNabb, but he sure didn't do a great job holding the team together during the TO drama.
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It doesnt matter where you lose in the playoffs its that you win or lose. McNabb's playoff record is better is it not?
So what does that mean, McNabb has been able to consistently not get his team to the Super Bowl, whereas Elway has been more sucessful in getting his team there?

Besides, you act like they are worlds apart...I'm trusting your stats here which I don't know if I should be...but its one damn game difference!
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There's an excuse to lock it up.
I'm not gonna mention the "r" word, I don't want any more infractions, but thats uncalled for and certainly has no place in this conversation... considering I've had infractions for defending things like that before, your way off base.
I am not looking for an infraction by implying race. But i do not know how that doesnt come into a converstation like this. As we all know African americans were long viewed that they could not be Leaders as far as being a QB is concerned and that is exactly the arguments we see here. We ignore every single fact that favors the african american QB, while praising the leadership skills dispite the lack of .... well prefomence. I will stay away from the race issue after this post because apparently people on this board are not mature enough to handle it.

McNabb's first 8 years are significantly better than Elways.
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What it all comes down to is superbowls. McNabb has 1, Elway has 3.
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