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Old 06-21-2012, 09:49 AM    (permalink
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That is one thing I never understood about the waiter/waitress industry. I have never understood tips in most cases. I work in a hardware store and provide more service towards customers than any waitress has ever provided towards me. I have spent hours helping a customer get the right products and I receive zero in tips. They bring you food and maybe 1 refill of a drink.
It's a stupid industry. They should just be paid normally but it is entrenched in our culture.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:51 AM    (permalink
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That is one thing I never understood about the waiter/waitress industry. I have never understood tips in most cases. I work in a hardware store and provide more service towards customers than any waitress has ever provided towards me. I have spent hours helping a customer get the right products and I receive zero in tips. They bring you food and maybe 1 refill of a drink.
I think the argument (and someone here who works/has worked in that industry can confirm) that they don't get much at all in terms of hourly pay, making most of their income from tips.

I'm sure this will change one day if/when I have a family I'm paying for but nowadays, my restaurant bills are rarely more than $20-25 if it's a decent place AND I get some alchohol.

So I leave them like $5 maybe. Generally they don't do much for me...they bring the food and drink and that is that. Someday, if I'm paying for a bigger meal for multiple people and they really did have to do more work, I'll have to adjust accordingly.

But that's my mindset. I'm sure in some cases it holds true that a larger bill means they did more work, but when I go get a steak by myself somewhere, they don't do much work.
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Mehhhhh being a waiter is much more than bringing plates. You have a **** ton to do.
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it's difficult to have any understanding of why waitstaff get tipped when the extent of your eating out experience consists of chili's. it's much easier to understand when you go to an actual restaurant that serves something that resembles food.
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it's difficult to have any understanding of why waitstaff get tipped when the extent of your eating out experience consists of chili's. it's much easier to understand when you go to an actual restaurant that serves something that resembles food.
How would you know? Your diet consists of small servings of fruit and energy drinks.
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How would you know? Your diet consists of small servings of fruit and energy drinks.
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I stick around 15-20% unless the server was beyond excellent or I'm at a nice place.
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I don't know what it is, but I've always been an over tipper. I think it's mostly because waiting tables sucks major amounts of ass and I feel for them.
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is it common courtesy to tip cooks? cause their job prolly sucks even worse
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is it common courtesy to tip cooks? cause their job prolly sucks even worse
restaurants often pool tips, and everyone on the staff splits it evenly
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That is one thing I never understood about the waiter/waitress industry. I have never understood tips in most cases. I work in a hardware store and provide more service towards customers than any waitress has ever provided towards me. I have spent hours helping a customer get the right products and I receive zero in tips. They bring you food and maybe 1 refill of a drink.
Because they make like $2/hour if they're lucky, and all of that goes to tax. It's how restaurant economics work. It's why a cheeseburger costs $7 instead of $20.
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Because they make like $2/hour if they're lucky, and all of that goes to tax. It's how restaurant economics work. It's why a cheeseburger costs $7 instead of $20.
apparently other countries have it right.

I"ve never worked in the industry or owned, but I'm sure they have to be paid at least 2/hr, if they are getting tips, some US labor law.
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Here we are.

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A tipped employee engages in an occupation in which he or she customarily and regularly receives more than $30 per month in tips. An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 per hour in direct wages if that amount combined with the tips received at least equals the federal minimum wage. If the employee’s tips combined with the employer’s direct wages of at least $2.13 per hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference. Many states, however, require higher direct wage amounts for tipped employees.
Still dumb, but meh. You pay 7 dollars for a cheeseburger, and then tip say 3-4 dollars. Wouldn't you rather pay 15 out right and no tip?
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The restaurants don't pay them. Their paychecks are typically voided and really just say how much tax they paid/owe
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Still dumb, but meh. You pay 7 dollars for a cheeseburger, and then tip say 3-4 dollars. Wouldn't you rather pay 15 out right and no tip?
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you'd rather pay 4-5$ more just so you don't have to tip?

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you'd rather pay 4-5$ more just so you don't have to tip?



not true in the vast, vast majority of restaurants. specifically excluding crappy chains.
it'd be a lot more than $4-5 more, too. Most of the servers that do well could easily land other sales jobs our deal jobs, but serve because the money is good. To keep those people, restaurants would have to to jack up prices to stupid levels.
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not true in the vast, vast majority of restaurants. specifically excluding crappy chains.
For smaller things you maybe right, for tipping would be better option. But in a larger meal with more people it may help. I don't know, just think getting paid 2.13 is kind of lame. Hooray laws that leave you scratching your head.
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I don't actually mind tipping, I just play by my own rules. Set percentages and people getting butthurt when they get less than they feel they should is what annoy me.
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Was a server for 2+ years. It's a stressful and up and down job, it's not as horrible as some make it out to be though. You just have to constantly be on your toes and have a good memory. You're on the move constantly so it gets tiring. The reason $5 on a $138 tab is ridiculous, is because that's a lot of work to do. At Chili's, where everything is pretty cheap.. you're talking about a table of at least 4 or 5 with appetizers or desserts and possibly drinks. To get five bucks total is just shameful. Cheap bastards.
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apparently other countries have it right.

I"ve never worked in the industry or owned, but I'm sure they have to be paid at least 2/hr, if they are getting tips, some US labor law.
There's actually provisions that let waiters be paid far less than minimum wage on an hourly basis because they're expected to make money on tips.

Having eaten at different types of restaurants in different parts of the world, I prefer the service you get in the US to the countries where tipping isn't expected and servers earn their money via a set salary.
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The people who call into where I work with thick southern accents and demand that we speak slower really grind my gears....

Sorry, wrong thread.
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