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First rankings are seniors, 2nd ones are juniors. Pretty rough rankings and they aren't very good, but eh it's June. Let me know of any mistakes with schools or class. Looking for some input on the rankings so discuss, and I know it'll be hard but try to not be stupid.

QB
1. Andre Woodson Kentucky
2. Brian Brohm Louisville
3. Matt Ryan Boston College
4. Colt Brennan Hawaii
5. John David Booty USC
6. Chad Henne Michigan
7. Erik Ainge Tennessee
8. Sam Keller Nebraska
9. Josh Johnson San Diego
10. Brandon Cox Auburn

QB
1. Bobby Reid Oklahoma State
2. Curtis Painter Purdue
3. Nate Longshore Cal
4. Chase Holbrook NMSU
5. Ben Olson UCLA

RB
1. Mike Hart Michigan
2. Cory Boyd USC
3. Tashard Choice Georgia Tech
4. BenJarvus Green-Ellis Ole Miss
5. Ryan Torain Arizona State
6. Yvenson Bernard Oregon State
7. Albert Young Iowa
8. Allen Patrick Oklahoma
9. Kregg Lumpkin Georgia
10. Rafael Little Kentucky

RB
1. Darren McFadden Arkansas
2. Andre Brown North Carolina State
3. Jonathan Stewart Oregon
4. Steve Slaton West Virginia
5. James Davis Clemson

FB
1. Owen Schmitt West Virginia
2. Michael Cox Georgia Tech
3. Peyton Hillis Arkansas
4. Jacob Hester LSU

WR
1. Limas Sweed Texas
2. Early Doucet LSU
3. Adarius Bowman Oklahoma State
4. DJ Hall Alabama
5. Harry Douglas Louisville
6. Marcus Monk Arkansas
7. Eddie Royal Virginia Tech
8. Dorien Bryant Purdue
9. Keenan Burton Kentucky
10. Andre Caldwell Florida

WR
1. Mario Manningham Michigan
2. DeSean Jackson California
3. Malcolm Kelly Oklahoma
4. Earl Bennett Vanderbilt
5. James Hardy Indiana

TE
1. John Carlson Notre Dame
2. Fred Davis USC
3. Martin Rucker Missouri
4. Joey Haynos Maryland
5. Kellen Davis Michigan State

TE
1. Martellus Bennett Texas A&M
2. Chase Coffman Missouri
3. Travis Beckum Wisconsin

OT
1. Sam Baker USC
2. Jake Long Michigan
3. Tony Hills Jr Texas
4. Barry Richardson Clemson
5. Gosder Cherilus Boston College
6. King Dunlap Auburn
7. Kirk Barton OSU
8. Duane Brown Virginia Tech
9. Chris Williams Vanderbilt
10. John Greco Toledo

OT
1. Ryan Clady Boise State
2. Alex Boone OSU
3. Lydon Murtha Nebraska

OG
1. Jordan Grimes Purdue
2. Will Arnold LSU
3. Shannon Tevaga UCLA
4. Adam Kraus Michigan
5. Roy Schuening Oregon State
6. Kirk Elder Texas A&M

OG
1. Michael Oher Mississippi
2. Herman Johnson LSU
3. Cedrick Dockery Texas

OC
1. John Sullivan Notre Dame
2. Adam Spieker Missouri
3. Doug Legursky Marshall
4. Kory Lichtensteiger Bowling Green
5. Cody Wallace TAMU

OC
1. Alex Mack California
2. Jonathan Luigs Arkansas
3. Antoine Caldwell Alabama
4. Dumaka Atkins FSU

DE
1. Chris Long Virginia
2. Tommy Blake TCU
3. Lawrence Jackson USC
4. Quentin Groves Auburn
5. Louis Holmes Arizona
6. Chris Ellis Virginia Tech
7. Kendall Langford Hampton
8. Bruce Davis UCLA
9. Kenny Iwebema Iowa
10. Darrell Robertson GT

DE
1. Calais Campbell Miami
2. Vernon Gholston OSU
3. Tyson Jackson LSU
4. Derrick Harvey Florida
5. Phillip Merling Clemson

DT
1. Glenn Dorsey LSU
2. Sedrick Ellis USC
3. DeMario Pressley North Carolina State
4. Red Bryant Texas A&M
5. Frank Okam Texas
6. BJ Raji Boston College
7. Dre Moore Maryland
8. Andre Fluellen Florida State
9. Marcus Harrison Arkansas
10. Nick Hayden Wisconsin

DT
1. Terrance Taylor Michigan
2. Roy Miller Texas
3. Fili Moala USC
4. Jeff Owens Georgia
5. Myron Pryor Kentucky

OLB
1. Keith Rivers USC
2. Xavier Adibi Virginia Tech
3. Shawn Crable Michigan
4. Ali Highsmith LSU
5. Brian Toal Boston College
6. Beau Bell UNLV
7. Tavares Gooden Miami
8. Malik Jackson Louisville
9. Robert Killebrew Texas
10. Casper Brinkley USC

OLB
1. Erin Henderson Maryland
2. Brian Cushing USC
3. Sean Lee PSU
4. Marcus Freeman OSU
5. Willie Williams Louisville

MLB
1. Dan Connor Penn State
2. Jonathan Goff Vanderbilt
3. J Lehman Illinois
4. Jasper Brinkley Southern Carolina
5. Vince Hall Virginia Tech
6. Philip Wheeler Georgia Tech

MLB
1. Rey Maualuga USC
2. James Laurinaitis OSU
3. Jerod Mayo Tennessee
4. Geno Hayes FSU
5. Rashad Bobino Texas

CB
1. Antoine Cason Arizona
2. Zachary Bowman Nebraska
3. Dwight Lowery San Jose State
4. Simeon Castille Alabama
5. Mike Jenkins USF
6. Dejuan Tribble BC
7. Terrell Thomas USC
8. Chevis Jackson LSU

CB
1. Justin King Penn State
2. Aqib Talib Kansas
3. Jack Ikegwuonu Wisconsin
4. Malcolm Jenkins OSU
5. Brandon Flowers Virginia Tech

S
1. Jonathan Hefney Tennessee
2. Jamar Adams Michigan
3. Tom Zbikowski Notre Dame
4. Eric Wicks WVU
5. Quitin Demps UTEP

S
1. Kenny Phillips Miami
2. Michael Hamlin Clemson
3. Josh Pinkard USC
4. Otis Wiley Michigan State
5. Courtney Greene Rutgers


Top 10 Seniors
1. Glenn Dorsey DT LSU
2. Sam Baker OT USC
3. Jake Long OT Michigan
4. Andre Woodson QB Kentucky
5. Keith Rivers OLB USC
6. Brian Brohm QB Louisville
7. Chris Long DE Virginia
8. Dan Connor MLB PSU
9. Limas Sweed WR Texas
10. Antoine Cason CB Arizona

Top 10 Juniors
1. Darren McFadden RB Arkansas
2. Calais Campbell DE Miami
3. Kenny Phillips S Miami
4. Rey Maualuga LB USC
5. Mario Manningham WR Michigan
6. Justin King CB PSU
7. Aqib Talib CB Kansas
8. DeSean Jackson WR California
9. Bobby Reid QB Oklahoma State
10. Michael Oher OG Mississippi
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Woodson over Brohm is laughable.

Sweed as the #1 is horrible.

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Woodson over Brohm is laughable.

Sweed as the #1 is horrible.
I do agree at this stage that Brohm out ranks Woodson however I think Sweed is legitimately the #1 senior at his position.
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I do agree at this stage that Brohm out ranks Woodson however I think Sweed is legitimately the #1 senior at his position.
He's way overrated.
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well i guess EB will have to run a 4.3 if anyone actually cares about him, cause bein succesful in college means nothin... good job DGOD151
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well i guess EB will have to run a 4.3 if anyone actually cares about him, cause bein succesful in college means nothin... good job DGOD151
As long as we don't get it twisted.. Earl Bennett is not as good as Early Doucet.
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Steve Justice from Wake Forest is the top senior center. he's a beast
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As long as we don't get it twisted.. Earl Bennett is not as good as Early Doucet.
This is correct. He's actually better. Unless the coaches of the SEC don't know anything since they voted him the #1 wideout in the conference.
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I still fail to get the hype for Justin King, CB, Penn State. He's been pretty good his first two years, but not #1 at his position good. That's just ridiculous. He's a good CB but the lovefest for this guy is outrageous.
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Green-Ellis, Haynos, Patrick, Royal, Duane Brown, Chris Williams, Lichtensteiger, Goff, and Chevis Jackson are all juniors.

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Woodson over Brohm is laughable.

Sweed as the #1 is horrible.
Not really. Woodson is a friggin good quarterback. People underrate him because he plays for a weak team.
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I still fail to get the hype for Justin King, CB, Penn State. He's been pretty good his first two years, but not #1 at his position good. That's just ridiculous. He's a good CB but the lovefest for this guy is outrageous.
What lovefest has their been? He's a good corner, and no other jr CBs are better.
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These are probably the best rankings I've seen so far. Couple things that stick out to me are Owen Schmitt, Matt Ryan, and Antoine Cason being too high and Chad Henne and Malcolm Jenkins too low.

Also, I agree that Early Doucet >>> Earl Bennett
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Um, not sure where you're looking but they are all seniors.
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I'm gonna respond to the rest of the posts in one so sorry if it gets confusing.

Please don't just say something is laughable or a joke, give some type of reasoning, and I'm sure Sweed being over a LSU receiver had nothing to do with that comment.

For the EB/Doucet stuff, I'd have 4 junior WRs over all the seniors other than Sweed (who'd be around 4), so EB would be slightly above Doucet.

Justin King is the #1 junior CB because he has played extremely well and is a fantastic athlete. The top 4 junior CBs are rated very close and are pretty much interchangeable.

I have Schmitt at #1 because he has ideal size for the position and has experience running and blocking. Cox is the top blocker of the group and I think Hillis and Lester don't end up playing FB and end up as H-Backs, or maybe Lester can transition to a roll like Brian Leonard will be in.

Ryan has shown some potential and him being that high is more of a projection than based on his performance right now. Cason really doesn't have much competition at CB now that Oliver is gone and Bowman was injured again. Henne has the tools arm wise but has way to many questions at this point for me to have him above the other guys. And like I said before the junior CBs ratings are very close.
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Really? I was just looking at Rivals and they had those guys as Juniors. Guess they need to do a better job updating.
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nice rankings DG! I love to see the strength at CB b/c the Packers are going to need to address that in the coming years
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Not really. Woodson is a friggin good quarterback. People underrate him because he plays for a weak team.
He had one good year.

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Please don't just say something is laughable or a joke, give some type of reasoning, and I'm sure Sweed being over a LSU receiver had nothing to do with that comment.

For the EB/Doucet stuff, I'd have 4 junior WRs over all the seniors other than Sweed (who'd be around 4), so EB would be slightly above Doucet.
I'd rather EB be ahead of Doucet than Sweed. He has a vertical leap, thats it. He doesn't run good routes and his hands aren't as good as advertised.

Also 4 juniors over Doucet? That's just ignorant.
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Justin King is the #1 junior CB because he has played extremely well and is a fantastic athlete. The top 4 junior CBs are rated very close and are pretty much interchangeable.
BINGO.. they are so close right now... you could put any one of them up there... and it could be debated
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thoughts on Brandon Ore.......any top RB list that omits his name dissapoints me
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and Andre Brown as the 2nd jr. RB?......aside from playing his butt off against FSU....he's been very average.....Chris Henry-like
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Steve Slaton for #2 RB!
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thoughts on Brandon Ore.......any top RB list that omits his name dissapoints me
He's a junior and I don't see him in the top 5. Doesn't have great size or speed and while he is a good college player at this point I don't see him with the other backs.

And Andre Brown has everything a pro running back needs from what I've seen, he has great size, big play ability and runs very hard. He hasn't really gotten the carries to shine but when he does get the ball it's impressive. He is nowhere near Chris Henry.
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Ore has average NFL size....5'11 205, nothing "freakish" but its in no way a knock (an inch and 15 pounds away from being your idea RB). Runs in the 4.4- range, at the most a 4.5.....for his size he plays the game as physical as any RB. Can catch the ball out of the backfield and is a good complete blocker. Has NFL starter/prototype written all over him
Its your opinion that he's a good college run, with not top 5 upside.....So all I will say is we will see. He is def my fav RB for this upcomming season.

Andre Brown has been all hype but terribly inconsistent (not just in games, but practice which leads to PT)....could not even crack over 4 yards a carry the last 2 months of the season...Toney Baker continues to be more consistent
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