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Old 07-08-2007, 04:04 PM    (permalink
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Ok this week were going to do QBs basically what you do is you give me you're Top 10. This week were doing QBs. After everybody gives their top 10 I'll count it up and total who you guys think are the Top QBs in the NFL. You can do you're top 10 anyway like what they have done in their career or last 3-5 years doesn't matter. I did this last year on a different board so I figure I'll give it a shot on this one. I'll give an example

1.Peyton Manning
2.Carson Palmer
3.Tom Brady
4.Matt Hasselbeck
5.Marc Bulger
6.Drew Brees
7.Philip Rivers
8.Tony Romo
9.Brett Favre
10.Chad Pennington
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I think you made a mistake at the top.
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My board is for best right now.

1. Peyton Manning
2. Carson Palmer
3. Tom Brady
4. Matt Hasselbeck
5. Drew Brees
6. Brett Favre
7. Marc Bulger
8. Donovan McNabb
9. Chad Pennington
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I think you made a mistake at the top.
Nope, he did mean to put Brady after Palmer
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Hasselback at four? Rivers at 7? and no Mcnabb in the top 10? I hate Donovan, but come on.
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Yeah I'll just throw mine in...

1. Peyton Manning
2. Carson Palmer
3. Tom Brady
4. Drew Brees
5. Donovan McNabb
6. Marc Bulger
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Philip Rivers
9. Tony Romo
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I dont see how you all have Palmer over Brady.
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I dont see how you all have Palmer over Brady.
For me its just a personal preference. I could switch the two, very easily also, but I like Palmer as a Quarterback better. There's a little bias in there, I don't like Tom Brady I won't try to hide that, I just feel if you give Palmer and Brady the same chances Palmer will do better everytime.

Yes, Brady doesn't have the weapons Palmer has, but what Brady is most noticed for is his championships. A lot of that is Brady's doing, but a lot is also having a great defense and great coaching. Put Palmer on the Patriots in their Super Bowl years I do think he can do the same thing.

It's just my opinion, obviously there is plenty of hard evidence to speak otherwise though.
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For me its just a personal preference. I could switch the two, very easily also, but I like Palmer as a Quarterback better. There's a little bias in there, I don't like Tom Brady I won't try to hide that, I just feel if you give Palmer and Brady the same chances Palmer will do better everytime.

Yes, Brady doesn't have the weapons Palmer has, but what Brady is most noticed for is his championships. A lot of that is Brady's doing, but a lot is also having a great defense and great coaching. Put Palmer on the Patriots in their Super Bowl years I do think he can do the same thing.

It's just my opinion, obviously there is plenty of hard evidence to speak otherwise though.
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1.Peyton Manning
2.Carson Palmer
3.Tom Brady
4.Drew Brees
5.Marc Bulger
6.Donovan McNabb
7.Philip Rivers
8.Brett Favre
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1. Ferotte 2. Grossman 3. Kitna 4. Jackson 5. Fitzpatrick
6. McCown 7. Frye 8. Culpepper 9. Cassel 10. Orlovski

Just Joking this is my real list
1. Peyton Manning
2. Palmer
3. Brady
4. Brees
5. McNabb
6. Bulger
7. Hasselbeck
8. Favre
9. Romo
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1. Peyton Manning
2. Carson Palmer
3. Tom Brady
4. Drew Brees
5. Donovan McNabb
6. Marc Bulger
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Philip Rivers
9. Michael Vick
10. J.P. Losman/Rex Grossman

The QB depth in the NFL sucks right now.
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Thanks for backing up your opinion.
I could back it up with numbers, and you can say numbers aren't the only way to judge players.

Then you would back it up with look at what Brady's done to make his team win, and I would say his team and coach had a much larger role in that then Brady did.

What I'm saying is I'd rather have Palmer because if both placed in the exact same simutation. If they have the same offense, defense, and coaching, I take Palmer every time. He is a superior QB in terms of tools, and I see no reason why I wouldn't want him everytime in that situation, although I can see why a lot of people would want Brady in that situation. I'm sorry I didn't pick your QB to be my #2 guy, its my opinion though that in the same spot, Palmer succeeds moreso then Brady.

But, that's never going to happen, and we'll never find out, which is why its my opinion, and there's not much to say to back it up.
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1. Peyton Manning
2. Carson Palmer
3. Tom Brady
4. Drew Brees
5. Donovan McNabb
6. Marc Bulger
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Philip Rivers
9. Michael Vick
10. J.P. Losman/Rex Grossman

The QB depth in the NFL sucks right now
Yeah, your telling me. I can get through 8 that I'm so confident in their order, or at least that they belong in the top eight, and then all of a sudden there is a field of ten to fifteen guys I see very little difference in.
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1. Peyton Manning
2. Carson Palmer
3. Tom Brady
4. Drew Brees
5. Marc Bulger
6. Donovan Mcnabb
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Trent Green
9. Philip Rivers
10. Chad Pennington

I know Trent sucked at the end of last season, but I think he'll be back to his old self in Miami next season.
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While I think Palmer is the superior physical talent, and has a much better arm. There is still no one who I would want more then brady when the game is on the line.
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While I think Palmer is the superior physical talent, and has a much better arm. There is still no one who I would want more then brady when the game is on the line.
Right, and I can easily see that, but I'm ranking them not on their intangibles or what they do in the clutch, but the what kind of QB they are, all the time, not just in the clutch.
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1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Carson Palmer
4. Donovan McNabb
5. Drew Brees
6. Marc Bulger
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Chad Pennington
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1. Peyton Manning
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3. Tom Brady
4. Drew Brees
5. Marc Bulger
6. Donovan Mcnabb
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Trent Green
9. Philip Rivers
10. Chad Pennington

I know Trent sucked at the end of last season, but I think he'll be back to his old self in Miami next season.
Finally, someone else who doesn't have Romo in the top 10
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Finally, someone else who doesn't have Romo in the top 10
I'm not a huge Romo fan myself, at all, but its hard to say other people should definitely be in that top ten ahead of him. There's a lot of decent QBs in the league, but only a few that really scream top ten.
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The thing is, if the league wasn't rather thin on elite QB talent, then there would be a shortage of Quarterbacks being drafted for need.
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1.Peyton Maning
2.Tom Brady
3.Carson Palmer
4.Drew Brees
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Right, and I can easily see that, but I'm ranking them not on their intangibles or what they do in the clutch, but the what kind of QB they are, all the time, not just in the clutch.
I say top 7, the other 3 are hard. There are a lot QBs u could consider after the top 7:Young, Romo, Favre, Rivers, Cutler, Pennington,that I just didn't know what order to put them in.
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1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Carson Palmer
4. Drew Brees
5. Marc Bulger
6. Donovan McNabb
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Phillip Rivers
9. Chad Pennington
10. Jon Kitna

I put Brady at the top because he has done more with nothing than anyone. It is 1 and 1a, honestly. The top 7 for me were pretty easy. I put Bulger above McNabb due to injury issues. Hass is solid, and Rivers has shown how good he can be. 9 and 10 were hard. Pennington, I don't like, but he is solid. As for 10, it could be Kitna, Romo, Favre, Young, Leinart, Roethlisberger, take your pick. I think Kitna still is a good QB who outperformed what his O-line and running game gave him. Right now, I think he is a top 10 QB.
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1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Carson Palmer
4. Drew Brees
5. Marc Bulger
6. Donovan McNabb
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Phillip Rivers
9. Chad Pennington
10. Jon Kitna

I put Brady at the top because he has done more with nothing than anyone. It is 1 and 1a, honestly. The top 7 for me were pretty easy. I put Bulger above McNabb due to injury issues. Hass is solid, and Rivers has shown how good he can be. 9 and 10 were hard. Pennington, I don't like, but he is solid. As for 10, it could be Kitna, Romo, Favre, Young, Leinart, Roethlisberger, take your pick. I think Kitna still is a good QB who outperformed what his O-line and running game gave him. Right now, I think he is a top 10 QB.
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