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Old 07-09-2007, 04:54 PM    (permalink
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The rules for this thing.

You can do you're top 10 anyway like what they have done in their career or last 3-5 years doesn't matter
Well if your list is based on careers then Favre is far and away #1 among current QBs. Past 5 years he is top ten, past 3 probably not, right now no.

Thats why I said there should be one topic. You can't combine career lists with current lists, one or the other.
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What affects a game more? Yards and Completions, or Touchdowns and Turnovers?
Obviously TD and TOs, but you can't just take a piece of the pie you have to look at the whole thing. Like I said you can debate Vick or Favre which should be unnecessary since Vick is a much younger QB and he should be without a doubt better than Favre.
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Well if your list is based on careers then Favre is far and away #1 among current QBs. Past 5 years he is top ten, past 3 probably not, right now no.

Thats why I said there should be one topic. You can't combine career lists with current lists, one or the other.
GB you are right 100%
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That was a call out, no matter how you spin it.
Yea it is a call out but he's not calling out you're list.
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He said that having Vick in the top-10 is "worse" than having Favre in a top-10 list, which is rather absurd if the basis of my list is solely on the present and future. That constitutes as an attack on the legitimacy of my list.
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He said that having Vick in the top-10 is "worse" than having Favre in a top-10 list, which is rather absurd if the basis of my list is solely on the present and future. That constitutes as an attack on the legitimacy of my list.
It's an opinionated forum and thread, and I think we should all settle down
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1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Drew Brees
4. Carson Palmer
5. Marc Bulger
6. Donovan McNabb
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Tony Romo
9. Vince Young
10. Brett Favre
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:03 PM    (permalink
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1.) Peyton Manning
2.) Tom Brady
3.) Drew Brees
4.) Carson Palmer
5.) Donovan McNabb
6.) Marc Bulger
7.) Phillip Rivers
8.) Matt Hasselbeck
9.) Brett Favre
10.) Chad Pennington
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Let's move on to Running Backs

Here's my top ten

1. LT
2. Larry Johnson
3. Steven Jackson
4. Frank Gore
5. Shaun Alexander
6. Clinton Portis
7. Brian Westbrook
8. Rudi Johnson
9. Willie Parker
10. Maurice Jones-Drew
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1.) LT
2.) LJ
3.) Steven Jackson
4.) Frank Gore
5.) Brian Westbrook
6.) Clinton Portis
7.) Deuce McAllister (Now 100% healthy)
8.) Willie Parker
9.) Rudi Johnson
10.) MJD

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1. LT
2. Steven Jackson
3. Larry Johnson
4. Frank Gore
5. Willie Parker
6. Shaun Alexander
7. Clinton Portis
8. Brian Westbrook
9. Rudi Johnson
10. Edge
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1)LT
2)Steven Jackson
3)LJ
4)Frank Gore
5)MJD
6)Brian Westbrook
7)Rudi Johnson
8)Fred Taylor
9)Travis Henry
10)Clinton Portis
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:57 PM    (permalink
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1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Carson Palmer
4. Marc Bulger
5. Drew Brees
6. Donovan McNabb
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Phillip Rivers
9. Chad Pennington
10. Trent Green
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:09 PM    (permalink
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1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Carson Palmer
4. Marc Bulger
5. Drew Brees
6. Donovan McNabb
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Phillip Rivers
9. Chad Pennington
10. Trent Green
A little late eh? lol.
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1. LT
2. LJ
3. Steven Jackson
4. Frank Gore
5. Willie Parker
6. Westy
7. Shaun Alexander
8. Clinton Portis
9. Travis Henry
10. Rudi Johnson

Honroable mention goes to the two headed monster Deuce McCalister and Reggie Bush.
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1. LT
2. Larry Johnson
3. Steven Jackson
4. Frank Gore
5. Brian Westbrook
6. Willie Parker
7. Shaun Alexander
8. Rudi Johnson
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I had an argument with my friend about the QB list so first id like to post that and get it out of the way.. forgive my tardiness

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Carson Palmer
4. Donovan Mcnabb
5. Matt Hasselback
6. Marc Bulger
7. Drew Brees
8. Brett Favre
9. Michael Vick
10. Big Ben
11. Chad Pennington
12. Trent Green
13. Vince Young
14. Phillip Rivers
15. Tony Romo
16. Steve McNair
17. Jake Delhomme
18. Sheli Manning
19. Rex Grossman
20. JP losman

Running Backs
1. Ladainian Tomlinson
2. Steven Jackson
3. Frank Gore
4. Larry Johnson
5. Maurice Jones Drew
6. Reggie Bush
7. Brian Westbrook
8. Rudi Johnson
9. Shaun Alexander
10. Willie Parker

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I had an argument with my friend about the QB list so first id like to post that and get it out of the way.. forgive my tardiness

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Carson Palmer
4. Donovan Mcnabb
5. Matt Hasselback
6. Marc Bulger
7. Drew Brees
8. Brett Favre
9. Michael Vick
10. Big Ben
11. Chad Pennington
12. Trent Green
13. Vince Young
14. Phillip Rivers
15. Tony Romo
16. Steve McNair
17. Jake Delhomme
18. Sheli Manning
19. Rex Grossman
20. JP losman

Running Backs
1. Ladainian Tomlinson
2. Steven Jackson
3. Frank Gore
4. Larry Johnson
5. Maurice Jones Drew
6. Reggie Bush
7. Brian Westbrook
8. Rudi Johnson
9. Shaun Alexander
10. Joseph Addai
How Brees is not a top 3 QB, much less top 5 blows my mind.
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How Brees is not a top 3 QB, much less top 5 blows my mind.
As a charger fan, ive known about what Brees can do before he had this amazing year. His best talent is being on a good team, its not his fault thats a crime in my eyes when evaluating talent. I like the players in front of him, but i understand and respect your argument.
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As a charger fan, ive known about what Brees can do before he had this amazing year. His best talent is being on a good team, its not his fault thats a crime in my eyes when evaluating talent. I like the players in front of him, but i understand and respect your argument.
And I thank you for that. But what he did last year with a bunch of unknowns was remarkable.
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How Brees is not a top 3 QB, much less top 5 blows my mind.
I hate Drew Brees with a firey passion and wouldn't even consider not putting him top 5.
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I hate Drew Brees with a firey passion and wouldn't even consider not putting him top 5.
I hate Carson Palmer and Tom Brady with a passion but I respect what they do because they are damn good at it. Brees is damn good at what he does and deserves the recognition whether you like him or not.
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I hate Drew Brees with a firey passion and wouldn't even consider not putting him top 5.
Id like to know why you hate him, and id also like to ask if you can remember why the NFL was calling for the chargers to draft a QB to replace him. I know quarterbacks can grow and become better players, but so can the others around them. He had the best RB, FB, TE as well as possesion recievers, and the most winningest active head coach. He went from that to a team with a power running game, as well as the most electifying talent in the league. It would be hard to dispute the fact that throwing to bush and pounding the ball in the running game did not directly attribute to his greatness.
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How Brees is not a top 3 QB, much less top 5 blows my mind.
Not top 3? Top three is Manning, Brady, Palmer. Brees doesn't top one of them so no top 3. I don't agrees with him putting Hass at 6, but certainly a case can be made for McNabb and Bulger. 4-6 is the range that Brees fits in.
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Not top 3? Top three is Manning, Brady, Palmer. Brees doesn't top one of them so no top 3. I don't agrees with him putting Hass at 6, but certainly a case can be made for McNabb and Bulger. 4-6 is the range that Brees fits in.
Well I think Brees>Palmer

Anyway this is getting off topic and that it my fault. Back on topic.
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