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Old 05-27-2010, 11:11 AM    (permalink
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I'm not worried about the Smiley trade. A conditional 7th rounder? Com'on Aura! That's nothing. When was the last 7th to make this team and make an impact? Bobby McCray. Plus, he may not even meet the condition and even if he does, if he becomes a starter, he automatically becomes better than a 7th. He passed the physical, so they think he is ok. So hopefully he stays that way.

g9, here's my guess.

CB - Mathis, Cox, Starks, Carey, Brackenridge, Middleton, Gordy, Coe, Hawkins
S - G. Alexander, Nelson, Smith, Greene, Whitehead, Seansidine
DE - Kampman, Harvey, Hayday, Lane, Mincey, Hart, Williams, Navare, Harrington
DT - Knighton, Alualu, Smith, Ellison, Quaye, Curry
G - Nwaneri, Manuwai, Smiley, Forney, Stephenson
C - Meester, Nwaneri, Newton, Estes
WR - Sims-Walker, M. Thomas, Dillard, Osgood, Williamson, Hughes, Denmark, Underwood, McGaha, Harmon, R. Thomas
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My concern is when the team trading you has a concern not to let you in their training facility because they are concerned your shoulder won't hold up to weightlifting you have to wonder. One thing I had missed earlier though was he apprently redid his contract which makes it a safer trade since when he signed with Miami he had a big contract.
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My concern is when the team trading you has a concern not to let you in their training facility because they are concerned your shoulder won't hold up to weightlifting you have to wonder. One thing I had missed earlier though was he apprently redid his contract which makes it a safer trade since when he signed with Miami he had a big contract.
Exactly, it was a low risk play. Different contract, and the team gave up a conditional 7th round pick.

I could see Smiley at LG, Uche at C, with Manuwai moving to RG.
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Even if he hadn't redone his contract, his pay was not exorbitant. It was like $2-million. If he comes in and is a starting guard, that's average pay. Now his pay is $500,000. Barely veteran's minimum. This is a great trade, even if he is hurt. The payoff could be huge. It's like putting 5$ down on the 1/50 horse, you lose, so what, you win, you win big.
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From my understand he had a 5 year 25 million dollar contract with Miami and his redone contract is something like 2-3 million a year. If it works out it willbe worth it but if he continues to have major injury issues then we are just throwing good money after bad. I agree there needs to be more depth to the Oline just on a wait and see thing to see if it was addressed properly or not.
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Just to show that it's not 2-3 mill a year, from jaguars.com

“They brought in a guy who’s a very, very talented player and he was making $500,000. They think they can get the job done with someone cheaper.”

That's Smiley talking about himself. He redid his contract for the cheap, so we are good. His salary implications are minimal.
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“They brought in a guy who’s a very, very talented player and he was making $500,000. They think they can get the job done with someone cheaper.”

That's Smiley talking about himself. He redid his contract for the cheap, so we are good. His salary implications are minimal.
My understanding was he was talking about Miami replacing him, I know he redid his contract but Vic Ketchman on Jaguars this week said it was something more along the lines of 2million a year which is better then 5 still. Agian my concern was paying him the huge contract Miami gave him coupled with his injury history and concern his shoulder still isn't right. His redone contract regardless of which amount is right is less so less risk and if his shoulder can hold up then it will turn out to be a good trade. Uche on the main forums has said he is doing well so cross our fingers and hope I guess.

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My understanding was he was talking about Miami replacing him, I know he redid his contract but Vic Ketchman on Jaguars this week said it was something more along the lines of 2million a year which is better then 5 still. Agian my concern was paying him the huge contract Miami gave him coupled with his injury history and concern his shoulder still isn't right. His redone contract regardless of which amount is right is less so less risk and if his shoulder can hold up then it will turn out to be a good trade. Uche on the main forums has said he is doing well so cross our fingers and hope I guess.
Maybe they gave him some money upfront and lowered his annual base salary.
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Ah, who knows, I haven't listened to JTW. I'll just wait for Jags02 to post up his salary details.
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Aura, I'm sorry, it seems you are more right. Per jacksonville.

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So basically, the $500,000 quote was about the guy replacing him. I misunderstood the original, non bracketed/edited quote.
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Yeah, that was the way I had understood the qoute when I read it on the main page. I guess really the question is going to be can he stay healthy. If he does he is worth the money for the guard depth alone. Also if Meester struggles it gives us the ability to move Uche to center.
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I can only speak for myself but I grew up playing soccer and I can't wait to watch the World Cup. That will fill a good month of time and then I start my summer classes in July. Summer goes by pretty quick.
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I'll be watching the US dominate group C. I'll actually be in Europe for the finals, so we'll see how that goes. I just hate not having anything Jaguars related to talk about.
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Well training camp is only a couple of months away.
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There is nothing to talk about because we have a team of high character players who aren't complete morons (Matt Jones/Reggie Williams). Maybe throw Khalif Barnes in the mix.
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Well I guess we can now talk about the fight at OTAs, YAY!
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lol, between 2 guys who won't make the team. I like the intensity though!
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League shuts down Jaguars OTAs
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You know the best part? Kassim, MoJo and Kirk Morrison have been out to the bars at Jax Beach for the last handful of weekends. I was lucky enough to be there the night Kassim signed his contract and after the draft when Morrison came into town. The three of them bought 100 Coronas, twice, and handed them out! I got one and then shook Kassim and Morrison's hands.
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Really I don't think the people appriceate how great these guys are. Not one major issue during the off season and they are so involved with the community, you can actually see a player out in the community and approach them. When I was in South Florida it was like sighting the Virgin Mary when you saw a phins player.
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The dead zone is the most dangerous hunter in all the land. A thread destroyer. Guess I'll listen to what Vic has to say.
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Id be the female for Kirk Morrison. Just saying. Its not like I have a choice anyways.
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