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Old 07-13-2007, 04:51 PM    (permalink
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what are you haters talking about? Freeney is one of the most game-changing defenders in the game.
Since when has he been a game changer, he's been criticzed for not making the sacks/big plays when Indy was down
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...and more than one syringes of HGH...

Anyway, good move for both parties. You can talk about the money all you want, but the Colts need Dwight Freeney. And if Freeney hit the FA market this year, he would have likely gotten a similar contract. Plus, like someone said, the contract is probably hevily backloaded. So in four or five years when he's declining, he'll have to restructure or be cut.
freeney only had one then?
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Freeney seems more of a pilates kinda guy.

Shwas referring to Merriman with the HGH comment.
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dwight freeney has gotten a majority of his sacks on turf (at home), he's disappeared in the road games...and RB's don't shy away from his side, they know that he over pursues a majority of the time...just another straw that will eventually break the camel's back...

the colts, in a few years, will be one of the worst cap disasters in recent years...
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Freeney seems more of a pilates kinda guy.

Shwas referring to Merriman with the HGH comment.
i know i was just saying i guess freeney only has one if merriman has more haha... but ya if i do recall.. freeney gets critized because he only makes sacks when they are ahead and the other team is passing more
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I think at this point Freeney is a bit overrated. He's been overpaid. Let's hope he shows some reason to warrant all that money because i like Dwight and would hate to see him have another sorry season.
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I agree, Ive watched a lot of colts games, and Freeney is really overratted. Im not saying hes bad, But a lot of analysts try to make him sound like hes the best defensive end in the nfl as of right now (ahem, espn, cough). its a good signing for the colts, however, he is getting way too much if you ask me.
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dwight freeney has gotten a majority of his sacks on turf (at home), he's disappeared in the road games...and RB's don't shy away from his side, they know that he over pursues a majority of the time...just another straw that will eventually break the camel's back...

the colts, in a few years, will be one of the worst cap disasters in recent years...
That's one strong camel, since I've been hearing this "window of oppurtunity is closing" and "cap hell is coming" crap since the first division title. Considering he helped to invent the cap, I'd think Bill Polian would know a thing or two about it, like how to work with it.
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I think i posted an article a while back from rotoworld about how freeney wanted a 30 million signing bonus. I never thought he would actually get it though. But in today's FA, you pretty much have to overpay.
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I think i posted an article a while back from rotoworld about how freeney wanted a 30 million signing bonus. I never thought he would actually get it though. But in today's FA, you pretty much have to overpay.
and 49wers fans know of that all to well.... you can have we dont want him anymroe haha
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I think at this point Freeney is a bit overrated. He's been overpaid. Let's hope he shows some reason to warrant all that money because i like Dwight and would hate to see him have another sorry season.
Sorry season? Considering the help he had defensively (practically none until the postseason), I'd say he had a pretty solid season. The DT play was atrocious at times, the LB play was atrocious at times, and the secondary play was average, but terrible against the run. The DEs were the only consistently good players on the defense, and it showed.
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I'd say he gets double digit sacks for the next 3-4 years. But I doubt he would have excepted a deal in that range, considering he would hit the market in his early 30s. But for these next few years he will wrack up sacks. Too much, but what free agent isn't now adays? A good guard (Derrick Dockery) is now getting upwards near 50 million!
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I think i posted an article a while back from rotoworld about how freeney wanted a 30 million signing bonus. I never thought he would actually get it though. But in today's FA, you pretty much have to overpay.
Well, it's all about how much of the salary cap the player is taking up. This year, considering the deal saved the Colts $3.68 million on the cap this year, that means Freeney will be making $5.75 million this season against the cap, or 5.38% of the Colts' cap room, assuming no adjustments from the league-wide $107 million cap. He's definitely worth that to the Colts.
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That's a lot of money (), more than I would have paid personally, though I can't say I completely shocked. Salaries are continuing to rise in tandem with the cap, and the market was going to get here soon enough anyways with other DEs like Julius Peppers and Terrell Suggs. Heck, obscene money was paid to Mario Williams without having played a single snap, because of want for a franchise, playmaking DE.

Polian and Irsay signed off on the extension, they obviously think things will work. That said, Tarik Glenn leaving in FA was pretty much given but now Bob Sanders and Dallas Clark likely will as well, unless some things happen - e.g. Manning and Harrison sign new contracts - within a year's time.
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Uh...why? The cap will increase, and Glenn's salary coming off the books will more than cover the increase in Freeney's contract. I think one of two is a goner (my choice in that unenviable situation would be Clark), but not both.
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We'll see, I guess. Let's see how Sanders fares playing a full season first.
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As I recall he did pretty well at that in 2005.
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Well, it's all about how much of the salary cap the player is taking up. This year, considering the deal saved the Colts $3.68 million on the cap this year, that means Freeney will be making $5.75 million this season against the cap, or 5.38% of the Colts' cap room, assuming no adjustments from the league-wide $107 million cap. He's definitely worth that to the Colts.
Your looking at the small scale, not long term. You gave him 30 million dollars in a signing bonus and his contract is averaging 12+ million dollars in the first 3 years. That will hurt more then his production will help.
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Your looking at the small scale, not long term. You gave him 30 million dollars in a signing bonus and his contract is averaging 12+ million dollars in the first 3 years. That will hurt more then his production will help.
No, I know where the money to cover his contract is coming from. That's why Tony Ugoh was drafted. The team decided that a young playmaking DE was more important to keep than an aging LT.
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No, I know where the money to cover his contract is coming from. That's why Tony Ugoh was drafted. The team decided that a young playmaking DE was more important to keep than an aging LT.
So in other words, keeping Freeney who is coming off a down year is more important then protecting Manning's blind side. Wow thats risky......
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So in other words, keeping Freeney who is coming off a down year is more important then protecting Manning's blind side. Wow thats risky......
Considering Glenn is 4 years older than Freeney, and while Glenn is a fantastic player, it isn't in the same tier of OTs than Freeney is for DEs.

I really don't get why people are saying this is bad. Freeney is a premiere player and he got a premiere contract. He is in his prime, relatively young, and ridiculously important to the franchise. To say that was too much money is ridiculous because the market has changed. There are above average offensive guards making 7+ million a year, Joey Porter got $20 mil guaranteed. Freeney is a top flight player at a premier position, him getting that money or that length of contract is not absurd at all.

And even if you think all of that is ridiculous, there aren't many, if any, front offices than the Colts, they won a super bowl with something like 2 players from FA starting, at least give them some room for error, considering they haven't made many in the past.
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How is Freeney a premeier player...he doesn't play the run very well and his pass rushing skills seem to have diminished from 06 to 07.
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So in other words, keeping Freeney who is coming off a down year is more important then protecting Manning's blind side. Wow thats risky......
They're replacing Tarik Glenn, not simply letting him walk without a plan.
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How is Freeney a premeier player...he doesn't play the run very well and his pass rushing skills seem to have diminished from 06 to 07.
You've never heard of pressures, right?
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