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Old 07-17-2007, 07:40 PM    (permalink
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Default Vick Indicted by a FED Grand Jury

Federal Indictments are not good.

Guessing that the Commish will hand down a 4 game suspension soon.

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What a travesty. That's the only way I can sum up my feelings. It's going to be hard to root for the Falcons as long as he is the team's starting QB. Here's to Brian Brohm in '08.
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I'm with you Shiv...I was a huge supporter of his until this...I know he's not been proven guilty yet, but to be linked with this stuff...lets just hope it ends with us having him free of guilt, or us free of his contract on our salary cap...
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Mike Vick Screwed you over!
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Yahoo! Sports' Jason Cole is reporting that Vick is likely to be suspended according to league sources. He's broken quite a few stories, so I trust his article.
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I'd have a hard time believing he wouldn't be...
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Well ESPN is reporting he won't be until he's convicted. Then again, ESPN also reported he wouldn't be indicted two weeks ago.
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Innocent until proven guilty?


It doesn't look good though.
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i will say, this isnt good for Vick, the league, or the Falcons...


but i wanted to point out, how ESPN put him out there was very distasteful, and ive never seen anything like that...I mean he hasnt been proven guilty yet, and they graphically talked about how the dogs were killed, along with putting on a "proven witness" with his identity withheld and voice changed, to talk about how he "knew" vick was a heavyweight in the dog fighting ring and what we saw...

I thought that was really unnecessary, im pretty sure alot of these athletes have people back at home who do not like them for whatever reason, they made it and they didnt, or they have money and their broke, so i dont think it would be hard to find someone to speak about seeing mike vick even if that wasnt the case...its not like that guy was another athlete who was going to come and speak out, for all we know it was a nobody that was still mad about vicks success...and i thought it was pointless for ESPN to show something like that so soon into a case, or at all period...

I dont think they would have done the same for other athletes, and i thought it was out of place...CNN thats ok, but this is ESPN, and they basically put a lasting imprint in peoples minds about vick whether he is convicted or not
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On NFL live a few minutes ago, Chris Mortensen just dropped the "Goodell could give him a lifetime ban" take.

Mortensen is such a clown. There will be a suspension, but a lifetime ban isn't going to happen.
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Federal Indictments are not good.

Guessing that the Commish will hand down a 4 game suspension soon.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns
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i always thought he was pretty reliable. i doubt he will get lifetime as well but he deserves at least the same as pacman if not more.
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On NFL live a few minutes ago, Chris Mortensen just dropped the "Goodell could give him a lifetime ban" take.

Mortensen is such a clown. There will be a suspension, but a lifetime ban isn't going to happen.
He said only if he is convicted, or takes a plea bargain. He was positive that Vick won't be suspended until due process is met.

One expert who was on PTI, who formally worked with the NFL, said that Vick will miss a part of the season regardless. You cannot pull a Kobe Bryant in the NFL, practice and preparation are crucial. All the more so because he is a Quarterback. He also mentioned that all NFL contracts allow for the team to void bonus money if incidents like this arrive.
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im not 100% sure, but werent the allegations against ray lewis when he played in that super bowl alot worse? Im pretty sure they were along the lines of murder, and the process was finsished up before and judgement or punishment was passed out...
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Take the plea bargin. Get suspended 4-8 games. 1st time offense so I hope not a whole season. Then come back and try to lead this team.
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i always thought he was pretty reliable. i doubt he will get lifetime as well but he deserves at least the same as pacman if not more.

I still fail to understand this. PacMan's rap sheep is incredibly long. This is Vick's first crime.
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I still fail to understand this. PacMan's rap sheep is incredibly long. This is Vick's first crime.
pacman has done many bad things but he's never been convicted let alone indicted by the feds. plus this is a very very very serious crime.
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Take the plea bargin. Get suspended 4-8 games. 1st time offense so I hope not a whole season. Then come back and try to lead this team.
I hope he doesn't. I'd rather never see Vick associated with the Falcons again. Take our lumps with Harrington, add a franchise QB next year in the draft. Vick was a massive mistake, not only did they trade for him instead of taking MVP candidate Drew Brees, they grossly overpaid for him. The only QB who deserves that kind of money is once in a generation players like Peyton Manning.

You might as well take rectify the issue now, rather than delay the inevitable.
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I hope he doesn't. I'd rather never see Vick associated with the Falcons again. Take our lumps with Harrington, add a franchise QB next year in the draft. Vick was a massive mistake, not only did they trade for him instead of taking MVP candidate Drew Brees, they grossly overpaid for him. The only QB who deserves that kind of money is once in a generation players like Peyton Manning.

You might as well take rectify the issue now, rather than delay the inevitable.

I suppose I'm the last one left then.
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So is leaving a man crippled.
like i said the feds have indicted vick on the dog charges. pacman wasnt indicted on that and he still got a year long, so vick should get at least the same thing unless goodell cowers out.
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like i said the feds have indicted vick on the dog charges. pacman wasnt indicted on that and he still got a year long, so vick should get at least the same thing unless goodell cowers out.

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this isnt like a DUI or punching someone out at a nightclub so roger goodell shouldnt let this slide just because its first offense. year long, nothing less.
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