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Old 07-19-2007, 03:04 PM    (permalink
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About Haloti Ngata, I am a bit biased because he is one of my favorite players, but do you think he can reach a level were he is talked about being a top 3 DT in the league?
I certainly think Haloti can be a top 3 DT in the NFL.
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well for now he might not act lazy..i mean burress didnt act lazy untill he wanted out of pittsburgh..but who knows
Yeah but thats Pittsburgh this is Baltimore, we're a much better city here :).
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how is it no one has mentioned Vince Wilfork at all he is definitely a top 7 Dt
Because the point of this thread is to discuss the best DT in the NFL.
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Because the point of this thread is to discuss the best DT in the NFL.
he is one of the best
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yes he is very good but not at the level of Hampton, Williams and Henderson.
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If you want to get technical we shouldn't compare 3-4 Nose Tackles like Jamal Williams to 4-3 Under Tackles like Tommie Harris, Kevin Williams. If you are going to lump all interior D-Lineman together, you need to include players like Seymour and Castillo who play on the interior D-Line.



The 3-4 DE is put at 5-tech, or on the Tackle, so I don't understand how you could say that about Seymour.

As for Henderson, in certain packages he could move to the 1-tech, over the pivot, in a pinch. I'm not talking about full time; rather for versatility's sake.
Well I dont think it is right to compare Jamal Williams to Tommie Harris. My first response to this thread was Jamal Williams is the best 3-4 NT, Tommie Harris the best 4-3 UT and John Henderson the best 4-3 NT. I dont think we can say which one is the best because they all play such different positions. If we're talking best interior lineman than yea I guess you can go ahead and throw Seymour and other 3-4 DEs into the mix...Were just talking about technicalities at this point.
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Well I dont think it is right to compare Jamal Williams to Tommie Harris. My first response to this thread was Jamal Williams is the best 3-4 NT, Tommie Harris the best 4-3 UT and John Henderson the best 4-3 NT. I dont think we can say which one is the best because they all play such different positions. If we're talking best interior lineman than yea I guess you can go ahead and throw Seymour and other 3-4 DEs into the mix...Were just talking about technicalities at this point.
I disagree. If you talk about overall. Who can get the job done? If he had a chance to play all those positions then I choose John Henderson. He can play NT for both 4-3 and 3-4 and on ocassion he has done it. He can also play the 3 technique on a 4-3 and heck he can even be a Offensive Tackle.
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I still say Henderson isn't as good as his teammate Marcus Stroud.
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I still say Henderson isn't as good as his teammate Marcus Stroud.
I agree with that. They're both so good though that they can feed off of each other.
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I still say Henderson isn't as good as his teammate Marcus Stroud.
To each his own, but as a Jaguars fan I say Henderson is better.
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To each his own, but as a Jaguars fan I say Henderson is better.
I agree. Stroud is a little overrated at this point (though still a top-notch player). Henderson is a beast!
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To each his own, but as a Jaguars fan I say Henderson is better.
so if u had to chose between either stroud or henderson,youd chose henderson
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Tommie Harris, ive watched him and hes a beast when healthy. I think hes just going to continue to improve.
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I disagree. If you talk about overall. Who can get the job done? If he had a chance to play all those positions then I choose John Henderson. He can play NT for both 4-3 and 3-4 and on ocassion he has done it. He can also play the 3 technique on a 4-3 and heck he can even be a Offensive Tackle.
nah I dont think when you talk about best DT you can say who can get it done the most ways. Unless Henderson plays for a team that employs both the 3-4 and 4-3 and he is used as a 3-4 NT, a 4-3 NT and a 4-3 UT, I dont really care if he can play all those positions. Im just looking at what player is the most dominant in his role on the defense. And with that being the case, I have to point to Jamal Williams as the best DT.
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Warren Sapp led all DT's in sacks last year....


...but really, I'll go for John Henderson by a small margin over Kevin Williams (who still didn't play like he did in that amazing 2004 campaign), and if I want a 3-4 NT, I'll take Jamal Williams.
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so if u had to chose between either stroud or henderson,youd chose henderson
Yes. Not only for skills, but Stroud has had nagging injury problems.
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Yep. But now it looks like I'm the one who grave digged it for no reason.
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The best DT in the league could be someone who is now on IR -- Geno Atkins. J.J. Watt could be the best depending on what you classify his position. If you call Houston's defense a 5-2, then he's a DT.
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Gerald McCoy & Geno Atkins > Suh
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I was about to say McCoy with Atkins being hurt has taken over. The guy has become a beast.
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