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Old 07-18-2007, 01:44 PM    (permalink
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Which 2004 Draft Busts are most likely to make a comeback
1st Round:
1. San Diego - Eli Manning, QB Mississippi
*Traded to the New York Giants for Philip Rivers and the Giants third-round pick this year and their first and fifth round picks in the 2005 draft.

2. Oakland - Robert Gallery, OT Iowa
3. Arizona - Larry Fitgerald, WR Pittsburgh
4. NY Giants - Philip Rivers, QB North Carolina State
Traded, along with their third-round pick this year and their first and fifth round picks in the 2005 draft, to San Diego for Eli Manning.

5. Washington - Sean Taylor, S Miami (Fla)
6. Cleveland ( from Detroit) - Kellen Winslow Jr, TE Miami (Fla)
7. Detroit (from Cleveland) - Roy Williams, WR Texas
8. Atlanta - DeAngelo Hall, CB Virginia Tech
9. Jacksonville - Reggie Williams, WR Washington
10. Houston - Dunta Robinson, CB South Carolina
11. Pittsburgh - Ben Roethlisberger, QB Miami (Ohio)
12. NY Jets - Jonathan Vilma, LB Miami (Fla)
13. Buffalo - Lee Evans, WR Wisconsin
14. Chicago - Tommie Harris, DT Oklahoma
15. Tampa Bay - Michael Clayton, WR LSU
16. Philadelphia (from San Francisco) - Shawn Andrews, OT Arkansas
17. Denver (from Cincinnati) - D.J. Williams, OLB Miami (Fla)
18. New Orleans - Will Smith, DE Ohio State
19. Miami (from Minnesota) - Vernon Carey, G Miami (Fla)
20. Minnesota (from Miami) - Kenechi Udeze, DE USC
21. New England (from Bal) - Vince Wilfork, DT Miami (Fla)
22. Buffalo (from Dallas) - J.P. Losman, QB Tulane
23. Seattle - Marcus Tubbs, DT Texas
24. St. Louis (from Denver thru Cincinnati) - Steven Jackson, RB Oregon State
25. Green Bay - Ahmad Carroll, CB Arkansas
26. Cincinnati (from St. Louis) - Chris Perry, RB Michigan
27. Houston (from Tennessee) - Jason Babin, DE Western Michigan
28. Carolina (from Philadelphia thru San Francisco) - Chris Gamble, CB Ohio State
29. Atlanta (from Indianapolis) - Michael Jenkins, WR Ohio State
30. Detroit (from Kansas City) - Kevin Jones, RB Virginia Tech
31. San Francisco (from Carolina) - Rashaun Woods, WR Oklahoma State
32. New England - Ben Watson, TE Georgia


Im expecting Gallery to make a turn around but guys like Rashaun Woods and Ahmad Carroll seem beyond a comeback
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Eli Manning, Robert Gallery, Michael Clayton, Kevin Jones

If you look at it though, it has been a really strong draft with very few true busts and a lot of guys who have turned out to be great players

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Old 07-18-2007, 01:57 PM    (permalink
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Chris Perry has been very worthy of his draft position when he's healthy... Only problem is he's never healthy.

The chances are slim and none that he'll be a Bengal after this season.
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Udeze hasnt lived up his 1st round status yet, but we will see.
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Udeze hasnt lived up his 1st round status yet, but we will see.
If he can't play with the DT's he has next to him I don't see him getting any better.
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J.P. Losman.
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Man, what a great freakin' draft. Might be the strongest first round crop we've seen in quite some time.

Busts:

Reggie Williams
Robert Gallery
Kenichi Udeze
Ahmad Carroll
Jason Babin
Rashaun Woods
Chris Perry

Disappointments (not up to snuff yet):

Eli Manning
JP Losman
Kevin Jones
Michael Clayton
Michael Jenkins
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Man, what a great freakin' draft. Might be the strongest first round crop we've seen in quite some time.

Busts:

Reggie Williams
Robert Gallery
Kenichi Udeze
Ahmad Carroll
Jason Babin
Rashaun Woods
Chris Perry

Disappointments (not up to snuff yet):

Eli Manning
JP Losman
Kevin Jones
Michael Clayton
Michael Jenkins
jones has done well imo and losman did good last year so they are both on the right track.

as far as my fellow Patriots
Wilfork was certainly a steal while Watson just needs to be consistent. Hes a great weapon but he needs to consistently read defenses and consistently catch ti
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J.P. Losman.
Not to me. He improved the second half last year and I think he needs one more year to see if he's a bust or not.
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Its kind of funny because the Packers only have 2 players left from the 2004 draft class. 7th round pick center Scott Wells and 6th round pick DT Corey Williams.
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jones has done well imo and losman did good last year so they are both on the right track.
I agree that they are on the right track, but they still have not performed consistently enough to warrant non-disappointment status.
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rashaun woods is done, i don't believe that he is in the league anymore
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The Rashaun Woods comeback should commence any moment. Brace yourself.
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What a flop he turned out to be
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I see no reason to believe Robert Gallery will ever improve.
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Ahmad Carroll is a name that I love to throw around when up at school. Those Green Bay people hate him.
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Holy crap that was a strong draft!!... i dont see gallery getting any better and ya if udezi doesnt get any better next year... how will he ... i mean he has a great line to play on right now and that line will get worse
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What a flop he turned out to be
Not really a huge flop honestly. He will never live up to his draft position, but he's a solid receiver for the Jags.
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Not only was the '04 class very strong in round 1, it also had a lot of talent in later rounds.
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Ahmad Carrol is definitly going to make a comeback. I see him going from about 40 penalties and 60 blown assignments to about 39 penalties and 59 blown assignments. Haha god i hate Carrol
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I'm really glad we hit on Andrews because that was probably our only good pick of the whole draft.
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i think that Lee Evans will have a pro bowl year to follow up the breakout season he just had
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With the injuries it was looking to many people like K2 would be a bust, I'm glad he dug himself out of the hole.

I would say picks #1 and #2 have been the most disappointing so far.
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Very good draft overall, a ton of trading in the bottom half as well.
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