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Old 07-20-2007, 10:21 PM    (permalink
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No one's hating on Polian for trading a future 1st rounder for Tony Ugoh now. It probably won't hurt the Colts that much really, Peyton Manning has such a quick release and his weapons are so incredibly good that they'll still put up 20+ a game. Apparently the Colts had but little choice.
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Drafting Ugoh definitely looks like a good decision now.
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So when did "sources close to the 10 year veteran" become a reliable enough source to declare it as fact? Haven't "sources close to (insert player here)" been dead wrong on several previous occasions?
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:02 PM    (permalink
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Wow, this is a surprising development if it turns out to be true.

(Assuming this report, which the Indystar felt confident enough in to run it, is true ...)

Glenn retires as a champion at the top of the game, and as a Colts player from beginning to end.

I think history will look back favorably on this era's Indianapolis Colts offense as one of the best, with Glenn a notable cog; especially once he hit his peak a few years ago, having worked on his craft and conquered weight issues. It's a shame Glenn didn't get more recogntion than he did, playing in an era with Hall of Famers Willie Roaf and Orlando Pace, as well as Jonathan Ogden who has ridiculously lived off the hype of his earlier years.

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No one's hating on Polian for trading a future 1st rounder for Tony Ugoh now.
Boy, I hear that. Although I liked the pick anyways, as I very much doubted that there would be a left tackle at the Colts' (now 49ers') pick in the 08 Draft who is as athletic as Ugoh (maybe the Boise State kid, but I'll gladly take Ugoh instead).
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:11 PM    (permalink
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SO is he retiring or not? Thats a huge loss if he retires.
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Talk about throwing a curveball......Ugoh better figure it out quick or they'll keep trying to fit pieces of the puzzle where they're not suppose to go
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He's a great OT and a big loss if it's true, but I don't know, sometimes I think you could throw 5 clones of Justin Hartwig on their OL and it won't make much difference.

Unless they're playing a 3-4 that is.
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If I had to guess right now, Tony Ugoh isn't the starter at left tackle for the season opener. It's Charlie Johnson, a second-year man who primarily saw backup duty at right tackle last year (including playing most of SB XLI).
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Way to overstate those first two losses. The third isn't confirmed by any reputable source yet either.
It's not an overstatement; they lost their number 1 corner and number 1 LB.
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Not to get too into it to the point of derailing, but suffice to say that the Colts let them walk and for good reason.
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Cato June was the Colts #1 LB? Based off his play last year, I'd probably rank him lower. He was part of the run - defense problem, him and Gilb Gardner were the worst tacklers ever. MJD, while a beast, shook them off like they were Pop Warner players or women.
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To the people saying Cato June is a significant loss, how much of the Colts did you actually watch last year? Or are you just looking at the stats and seeing he had a bunch of tackles? There's a reason that it took forever for him to be signed with another team.

And this is a huge loss if its true. I agree with Geo that Charlie will probably be starting and I'm a huge fan of him myself. He's a very versatile player and I think he can hold his own this year if need be.
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What day would that be? I doubt it's "the day Tarik Glenn retires".
The day Peyton Manning becomes easier to injure
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Well this makes the Ugoh pick make a lot more sense, the Colts obviously saw this coming. Is it definite he will retire though? I would think he would have wanted to finish out his contract and get a big payday.
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It's not an overstatement; they lost their number 1 corner and number 1 LB.
Lets be real, Nick Harper and Cato June were not great players and are easily replaceable. They have 3 young CBs picked on the first day (Jackson, Hayden, Jennings) and they picked up Hughes, who should be a steal and do great in the cover 2. Harper wasnt much better than any of those guys and they all have more upside than him. June was a horrible run defender and I wouldnt be the least but surprised to see Keihaho turn out to be better than him. These are not the kind of losses that are gonna make a real difference especially on well-coached cover 2 D with a team that is obviously good at grooming young talent and prepare themselves for FA departures (Edge, Mike Peterson, Marcus Washington, Larry Tripplett.....)
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INDIANAPOLIS — Multiple media reports Friday evening appear to indicate that Indianapolis Colts offensive tackle Tarik Glenn may be mulling retirement.

While Glenn is not expected to make an official announcement until early next week, he has reportedly already told several of his teammates of his pending decision. Glenn and Colts coach Tony Dungy spoke earlier this week, but Dungy would not divulge the extent of the conversation.

Glenn’s agent, Ralph Cindrich, would also not talk about such a move. Cindrich referred all questions to the 10-year veteran, but Glenn was unavailable to comment Friday night on his long-term future with the team.

A former University of California standout, Glenn was the Colts’ first-round draft pick in 1997. He has played in three Pro Bowls, two as a starter, and has started all 154 career games since coming to Indianapolis.

The team drafted former University of Arkansas offensive tackle Tony Ugoh in the second round last April as a possible future replacement for Glenn, who is due to become a free agent at the end of the 2007 season.

Colts officials had hoped to work Ugoh into the offensive tackle rotation slowly this season and was considering also getting him some playing time at offensive guard. Second-year offensive tackle Charlie Johnson, who filled in for both Glenn and Ryan Diem as a rookie last year, could be the primary candidate to replace Glenn in the starting lineup should he decide to retire.
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whatever the decision be,i believe the colts have more of a problem on the other side of the ball which they need to adress really fast
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but imo i think ugoh could potentially be better then glenn

but that is just my opinion
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The thing I'll always remember about Tarik Glenn is when MNF would get the players to announce themselves and Tarik did his he said his name so slow that it made him sound like an idiot.


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Not to get too into it to the point of derailing, but suffice to say that the Colts let them walk and for good reason.
Eh, I think them losing Jason David to us was more of Micky Loomis forcing their hand rather than them wanting to let him go.
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Now I'll actually have a reason to watch the Colts Raiders game seeing as how Ugoh is gonna be powned by Moses.
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just on a note about Jason David, I think it was an awful signing by the Saints. Fred Thomas was abused all year in their man to man scheme, hence the need for a new starting CB, but David is not the answer. Yeah, he got by OK in the cover 2, but if they try to throw him into that man to man scheme, hes gonna be exposed IMO. He just doesnt have the talent to play starting CB in the NFL unless he is playing in the cover 2. The Saints instead should have went after a corner in the draft, they had a chance to grab Chris Houston, an ideal CB for their scheme and they would have been wise to pass on David and go for him in the draft. While David was servicable in the cover 2, I dont think he'll be much better than Fred Thomas in the Saints' D and at the end of the year the Saints will find themselves again in need of a new starting CB as they pay David starter money to play nickel back. Maybe he'll prove me wrong but I doubt it. I think the Colts would have liked to keep him but no way were they gonna give him a big contract when they know how easily replacable he was. The Colts are fine at corner with Hughes, Jackson, Hayden and Jennings.
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Eh, I think them losing Jason David to us was more of Micky Loomis forcing their hand rather than them wanting to let him go.
You're entitled to believe what you want. The Colts offered only a mid-level tender to resticted agent Jason David for a reason.
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