Thorpe Award Watch List

Sniper · 07-26-2007, 10:23 PM

http://mgoblue.com/document_display....ument_id=25043

Really stunned not to see Jack Ikegwuonu on the list.

neko4 · 07-26-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SNIPER26

http://mgoblue.com/document_display....ument_id=25043

Really stunned not to see Jack Ikegwuonu on the list.

Thats a pretty big list too

reigle9 · 07-26-2007, 10:27 PM

Either a misprint or......I don't know. That's the only choice.

Sniper · 07-26-2007, 10:31 PM

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Either a misprint or......I don't know. That's the only choice.

Obviously it doesn't mean that he doesn't have a shot to win it. But to shun a guy who's arguably the Big 10's best corner along with Jenkins and King is a little out there.

America · 07-26-2007, 10:32 PM

I hope Kenny Phillips wins. That guy is amazing.

Sniper · 07-26-2007, 10:34 PM

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I hope Kenny Phillips wins. That guy is amazing.

He's definitely one of the front-runners, probably the top guy. If Tom Zbikowski wins I may go on a killing spree. He's atrocious in coverage and is essentially a undersized linebacker.

therock6000 · 07-26-2007, 10:38 PM

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He's definitely one of the front-runners, probably the top guy. If Tom Zbikowski wins I may go on a killing spree. He's atrocious in coverage and is essentially a undersized linebacker.

agree (except for the killing spree part)

neko4 · 07-26-2007, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SNIPER26

He's definitely one of the front-runners, probably the top guy. If Tom Zbikowski wins I may go on a killing spree. He's atrocious in coverage and is essentially a undersized linebacker.

What if he improves and gets like a dozen INT's?

etk · 07-26-2007, 10:52 PM

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What if he improves and gets like a dozen INT's?

Yeah, only if he moves back to quarterback...

Sniper · 07-26-2007, 10:53 PM

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What if he improves and gets like a dozen INT's?

Then I may restrict my killing spree :) He's certainly going to have a lot of chances at a dozen INTs by helping over the top since Notre Dame's corners are weak.

reigle9 · 07-26-2007, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SNIPER26

He's definitely one of the front-runners, probably the top guy. If Tom Zbikowski wins I may go on a killing spree. He's atrocious in coverage and is essentially a undersized linebacker.

Haha, I think you're a raging **** but that was as funny as it gets. NO chance he wins, ND is going to be lucky to get to 7-5 this year. I think Kenny probably wins. Justin won't get many picks, I doubt Jenkins will either.

Sniper · 07-26-2007, 11:19 PM

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Haha, I think you're a raging **** but that was as funny as it gets. NO chance he wins, ND is going to be lucky to get to 7-5 this year. I think Kenny probably wins. Justin won't get many picks, I doubt Jenkins will either.

All because I said King was the #3 corner in the Big 10? Good to see you don't take online stuff too personally. King will get 1-2 picks probably because a lot of teams won't throw his way because odds are he'll have his man blanketed well. That and he doesn't have great ball skills. Jenkins and Ikegwuonu are more of a threat as far as ball skills go, but may not have the coverage ability as King. But they are better all-around in terms of coverage and ball skills.

GB12 · 07-26-2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SNIPER26

http://mgoblue.com/document_display....ument_id=25043

Really stunned not to see Jack Ikegwuonu on the list.

I don't think he has much of a chance to win it, but for him to not even be on the list is ********.

reigle9 · 07-27-2007, 01:14 PM

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All because I said King was the #3 corner in the Big 10? Good to see you don't take online stuff too personally. King will get 1-2 picks probably because a lot of teams won't throw his way because odds are he'll have his man blanketed well. That and he doesn't have great ball skills. Jenkins and Ikegwuonu are more of a threat as far as ball skills go, but may not have the coverage ability as King. But they are better all-around in terms of coverage and ball skills.

You didn't say the #3 CB in the Big 10, that wouldn't have annoyed me at all. It's wrong and that's you're opinion so I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Talking about ball skills just killed your reasoning. He played WR as a freshman and made some sick plays. You made him sound like a solid starter rather than a 1st round DP, that's what annoyed me.

I honestly would put the max bet on him being the first CB taken in whatever year he goes if I could get 8-1 or so.

Sniper · 07-27-2007, 01:17 PM

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You didn't say the #3 CB in the Big 10, that wouldn't have annoyed me at all. It's wrong and that's you're opinion so I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Talking about ball skills just killed your reasoning. He played WR as a freshman and made some sick plays. You made him sound like a solid starter rather than a 1st round DP, that's what annoyed me.

I honestly would put the max bet on him being the first CB taken in whatever year he goes if I could get 8-1 or so.

I have said numerous times he's the #3 CB in the Big 10, thougb I'll admit I'm really starting to warm up to him more and more. As a corner, he does not have great ball skills. Corners with great ball skills intercept more than one pass per year, receiver experience or not. He was used on a lot of end arounds and stuff like that. That's far different than real receiver routes. I have King slated to go late first round right now for next season. That being said, I assume he will be a all-big 10 first team this year and propel his stock much further. If he stays for his senior year he's a lock to be a top 10.

YAYareaRB · 07-27-2007, 01:22 PM

Kenny Phillips is amazing. I think he's got it locked.

Sniper · 07-27-2007, 01:23 PM

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Kenny Phillips is amazing. I think he's got it locked.

Either him or Myron Rolle.

princefielder28 · 07-27-2007, 01:26 PM

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I don't think he has much of a chance to win it, but for him to not even be on the list is ********.

It's unacceptable for his name not to be mentioned

Sniper · 07-27-2007, 01:28 PM

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It's unacceptable for his name not to be mentioned

Ikegwuonu isn't but Zbikowski is. Makes a lot of sense

Giantsfan1080 · 07-27-2007, 01:38 PM

Watch out for Taylor Mays and Courtney Greene as well. In all likelyhood Phillips should win though.

moc182 · 07-27-2007, 01:42 PM

I'll go with Reggie Smith. Someone in the big 12 always wins, whether they deserve it or not.

cardsalltheway · 07-27-2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SNIPER26

Either him or Myron Rolle.

That's who my money's on

reigle9 · 07-27-2007, 01:47 PM

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I have said numerous times he's the #3 CB in the Big 10, thougb I'll admit I'm really starting to warm up to him more and more. As a corner, he does not have great ball skills. Corners with great ball skills intercept more than one pass per year, receiver experience or not. He was used on a lot of end arounds and stuff like that. That's far different than real receiver routes. I have King slated to go late first round right now for next season. That being said, I assume he will be a all-big 10 first team this year and propel his stock much further. If he stays for his senior year he's a lock to be a top 10.

Fair enough. You're just a little out of your element though. His ball skills are great, he never gets thrown at. When he does, he outruns Ted Ginn and picks it off.

reigle9 · 07-27-2007, 01:49 PM

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That's who my money's on

Lot of great DB's this year. I'm liking a lot of these names.

Man_Of_Steel · 07-27-2007, 01:58 PM

I believe I saw Paul Oliver on there.