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Old 07-26-2007, 11:23 PM    (permalink
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Really stunned not to see Jack Ikegwuonu on the list.
Thats a pretty big list too
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Either a misprint or......I don't know. That's the only choice.
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Either a misprint or......I don't know. That's the only choice.
Obviously it doesn't mean that he doesn't have a shot to win it. But to shun a guy who's arguably the Big 10's best corner along with Jenkins and King is a little out there.
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:34 PM    (permalink
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I hope Kenny Phillips wins. That guy is amazing.
He's definitely one of the front-runners, probably the top guy. If Tom Zbikowski wins I may go on a killing spree. He's atrocious in coverage and is essentially a undersized linebacker.
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He's definitely one of the front-runners, probably the top guy. If Tom Zbikowski wins I may go on a killing spree. He's atrocious in coverage and is essentially a undersized linebacker.
agree (except for the killing spree part)
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He's definitely one of the front-runners, probably the top guy. If Tom Zbikowski wins I may go on a killing spree. He's atrocious in coverage and is essentially a undersized linebacker.
What if he improves and gets like a dozen INT's?
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Yeah, only if he moves back to quarterback...
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What if he improves and gets like a dozen INT's?
Then I may restrict my killing spree :) He's certainly going to have a lot of chances at a dozen INTs by helping over the top since Notre Dame's corners are weak.
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He's definitely one of the front-runners, probably the top guy. If Tom Zbikowski wins I may go on a killing spree. He's atrocious in coverage and is essentially a undersized linebacker.
Haha, I think you're a raging **** but that was as funny as it gets. NO chance he wins, ND is going to be lucky to get to 7-5 this year. I think Kenny probably wins. Justin won't get many picks, I doubt Jenkins will either.
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Haha, I think you're a raging **** but that was as funny as it gets. NO chance he wins, ND is going to be lucky to get to 7-5 this year. I think Kenny probably wins. Justin won't get many picks, I doubt Jenkins will either.
All because I said King was the #3 corner in the Big 10? Good to see you don't take online stuff too personally. King will get 1-2 picks probably because a lot of teams won't throw his way because odds are he'll have his man blanketed well. That and he doesn't have great ball skills. Jenkins and Ikegwuonu are more of a threat as far as ball skills go, but may not have the coverage ability as King. But they are better all-around in terms of coverage and ball skills.
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I don't think he has much of a chance to win it, but for him to not even be on the list is ********.
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All because I said King was the #3 corner in the Big 10? Good to see you don't take online stuff too personally. King will get 1-2 picks probably because a lot of teams won't throw his way because odds are he'll have his man blanketed well. That and he doesn't have great ball skills. Jenkins and Ikegwuonu are more of a threat as far as ball skills go, but may not have the coverage ability as King. But they are better all-around in terms of coverage and ball skills.
You didn't say the #3 CB in the Big 10, that wouldn't have annoyed me at all. It's wrong and that's you're opinion so I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Talking about ball skills just killed your reasoning. He played WR as a freshman and made some sick plays. You made him sound like a solid starter rather than a 1st round DP, that's what annoyed me.

I honestly would put the max bet on him being the first CB taken in whatever year he goes if I could get 8-1 or so.
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You didn't say the #3 CB in the Big 10, that wouldn't have annoyed me at all. It's wrong and that's you're opinion so I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Talking about ball skills just killed your reasoning. He played WR as a freshman and made some sick plays. You made him sound like a solid starter rather than a 1st round DP, that's what annoyed me.

I honestly would put the max bet on him being the first CB taken in whatever year he goes if I could get 8-1 or so.
I have said numerous times he's the #3 CB in the Big 10, thougb I'll admit I'm really starting to warm up to him more and more. As a corner, he does not have great ball skills. Corners with great ball skills intercept more than one pass per year, receiver experience or not. He was used on a lot of end arounds and stuff like that. That's far different than real receiver routes. I have King slated to go late first round right now for next season. That being said, I assume he will be a all-big 10 first team this year and propel his stock much further. If he stays for his senior year he's a lock to be a top 10.
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Ikegwuonu isn't but Zbikowski is. Makes a lot of sense
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Watch out for Taylor Mays and Courtney Greene as well. In all likelyhood Phillips should win though.
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I'll go with Reggie Smith. Someone in the big 12 always wins, whether they deserve it or not.
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I have said numerous times he's the #3 CB in the Big 10, thougb I'll admit I'm really starting to warm up to him more and more. As a corner, he does not have great ball skills. Corners with great ball skills intercept more than one pass per year, receiver experience or not. He was used on a lot of end arounds and stuff like that. That's far different than real receiver routes. I have King slated to go late first round right now for next season. That being said, I assume he will be a all-big 10 first team this year and propel his stock much further. If he stays for his senior year he's a lock to be a top 10.
Fair enough. You're just a little out of your element though. His ball skills are great, he never gets thrown at. When he does, he outruns Ted Ginn and picks it off.
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Lot of great DB's this year. I'm liking a lot of these names.
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