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Old 09-30-2008, 06:50 PM    (permalink
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I really do hate all of these people saying that it was one of the greatest films they've ever seen. I really liked it, but I still don't even think it was the best film of the summer. Heck, I thought Iron Man was better.
Iron Man was terrible, Iron Monger sucked. Downey Jr. was the only good thing about it.
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I really do hate all of these people saying that it was one of the greatest films they've ever seen. I really liked it, but I still don't even think it was the best film of the summer. Heck, I thought Iron Man was better.
A lot of contributing factors to these claims. One, it had crazy hype...which was actually met. Two, the Joker role was hyped more than any role in recent history, and that was met (though I don't think it was Oscar worthy). Three, 90% of casual movie goers are exactly that, casual. They haven't seen as many films as someone such as Gonzo, so they aren't even qualified to make that claim.
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Iron Man was terrible, Iron Monger sucked. Downey Jr. was the only good thing about it.
Well, then I guess we disagree. I still think that people are overrating Dark Knight too much, but I guess everyone is allowed to have their bad opinions. =D
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Batman may not be the greatest films of all time, but it is one of my favorite.
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A lot of contributing factors to these claims. One, it had crazy hype...which was actually met. Two, the Joker role was hyped more than any role in recent history, and that was met (though I don't think it was Oscar worthy). Three, 90% of casual movie goers are exactly that, casual. They haven't seen as many films as someone such as Gonzo, so they aren't even qualified to make that claim.
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Iron Man was terrible, Iron Monger sucked. Downey Jr. was the only good thing about it.
Not true. The Ironman suit was legit.

As well as storyline and script and direction.
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A lot of contributing factors to these claims. One, it had crazy hype...which was actually met. Two, the Joker role was hyped more than any role in recent history, and that was met (though I don't think it was Oscar worthy). Three, 90% of casual movie goers are exactly that, casual. They haven't seen as many films as someone such as Gonzo, so they aren't even qualified to make that claim.
I dont think you realize the amount of hype that this movie got and met. That itself is one hell of an accomplishment. Typically things from the media with so much hype fail to deliver, which may not be a problem with the movie, cd, video game itself, but it just becomes a victim to the hype. It has been done countless times.

The amount of hype Batman received seems to be unprecedented. I do not remember another release like that. The fact that it met it is amazing.

I am not calling it the greatest film ever, but it definitely has its place in history as the best comic hero films and a top notch crime thriller.

I do not see another comic book movie topping it. No way will a director of Christopher Nolan's caliber direct a comic book movie.
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I dont think you realize the amount of hype that this movie got and met. That itself is one hell of an accomplishment. Typically things from the media with so much hype fail to deliver, which may not be a problem with the movie, cd, video game itself, but it just becomes a victim to the hype. It has been done countless times.

The amount of hype Batman received seems to be unprecedented. I do not remember another release like that. The fact that it met it is amazing.

I am not calling it the greatest film ever, but it definitely has its place in history as the best comic hero films and a top notch crime thriller.

I do not see another comic book movie topping it. No way will a director of Christopher Nolan's caliber direct a comic book movie.
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I dont think you realize the amount of hype that this movie got and met. That itself is one hell of an accomplishment. Typically things from the media with so much hype fail to deliver, which may not be a problem with the movie, cd, video game itself, but it just becomes a victim to the hype. It has been done countless times.

The amount of hype Batman received seems to be unprecedented. I do not remember another release like that. The fact that it met it is amazing.

I am not calling it the greatest film ever, but it definitely has its place in history as the best comic hero films and a top notch crime thriller.

I do not see another comic book movie topping it. No way will a director of Christopher Nolan's caliber direct a comic book movie.
Believe it or not, I've seen reviews that give it negative press (for the sake of playing devil's advocate I think) and they make some good cases.
They found character development (mainly secondary characters) to be minimal, which they magnified by saying that the movie draaggged on too long. Blah blah blah, overrated, but great by *today's standards*.

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lol. Hey do you know if Edgar Wright is doing something with Simon Pegg and Nick Frost? Another thing I mean. I heard they were signed on for 3 movies?

Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz kick way too much ass. Shaun of the Dead just makes me wish for the Zombie Apocalypse to happen now. It would be so much fun.
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Believe it or not, I've seen reviews that give it negative press (for the sake of playing devil's advocate I think) and they make some good cases.
They found character development (mainly secondary characters) to be minimal, which they magnified by saying that the movie draaggged on too long. Blah blah blah, overrated, but great by *today's standards*.

*Which is *****
I definitely agree that its no longer the golden age for movies (it was the 70s in my opinion. so many ******* good movies. AND Pink Floyd. godamn. I wish I was born in 1954) but for the time period now, it is one of the better movies. Its really hard to ask for more out of movies.

What movies this decade do you think stand up to the movies of the past?
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lol. Hey do you know if Edgar Wright is doing something with Simon Pegg and Nick Frost? Another thing I mean. I heard they were signed on for 3 movies?

Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz kick way too much ass. Shaun of the Dead just makes me wish for the Zombie Apocalypse to happen now. It would be so much fun.
I swear I remember reading somewhere that they were reuniting soon but IMDB does not confirm that. It seems they are all fairly busy so I would expect something in 2011 or so. I do know that Pegg is no longer doing Inglorious Bastards which sucks but he is writing a movie with Nick Frost and they are both to star. It is being directed by Greg Mottola of Superbad fame.
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I definitely agree that its no longer the golden age for movies (it was the 70s in my opinion. so many ******* good movies. AND Pink Floyd. godamn. I wish I was born in 1954) but for the time period now, it is one of the better movies. Its really hard to ask for more out of movies.

What movies this decade do you think stand up to the movies of the past?
Is none an option? Kidding, I will have to think on that for a bit.

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lol. Hey do you know if Edgar Wright is doing something with Simon Pegg and Nick Frost? Another thing I mean. I heard they were signed on for 3 movies?

Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz kick way too much ass. Shaun of the Dead just makes me wish for the Zombie Apocalypse to happen now. It would be so much fun.


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I definitely agree that its no longer the golden age for movies (it was the 70s in my opinion. so many ******* good movies. AND Pink Floyd. godamn. I wish I was born in 1954) but for the time period now, it is one of the better movies. Its really hard to ask for more out of movies.

What movies this decade do you think stand up to the movies of the past?
I completly agree with you about the 70's being the golden age of cinema. The 80's were pretty weak with Raging Bull being the only pure masterpiece I feel that came out of that time. I am a huge fan of 90's films. There are just so many great movies that came out in that time period. So far in the 00's I feel it has been kind of the age of the foreign film. Of the top of my head the only movies that I consider masterpieces for this decade are There Will Be Blood and City of God.
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Bruce Campbell is such an underated actor. God do I love watching every movie he does. I also get a kick out of Burn Notice because he is so damn awesome.
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A few movies I think will stand up to movies of the past:
City of God
There Will Be Blood(this movie will only be more appreciated in the future IMO)
Lord of the Rings Trilogy?
The Dark Knight
Memento

The only ones I have real confidence in are the first three I listed and thats just off the top of my head.
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I completly agree with you about the 70's being the golden age of cinema. The 80's were pretty weak with Raging Bull being the only pure masterpiece I feel that came out of that time. I am a huge fan of 90's films. There are just so many great movies that came out in that time period. So far in the 00's I feel it has been kind of the age of the foreign film. Of the top of my head the only movies that I consider masterpieces for this decade are There Will Be Blood and City of God.
My initial thoughts were along these lines.

City of God is the top I think. I'd probably flip flop on that and TWBB depending on the day.

Is foreign film catching up or are we just now noticing?

and I completely agree with your thoughts on Campbell. Whenever I see him on Burn Notice I find myself thinking, "this is so Campbell".
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I still think animated films are better than they ever have been with Pixar's unbelievable consistency, Miyazaki's occasional effort.
Miyazaki is no doubt a brilliant director. His animated films are pure brilliance. I will say that there are some good animated films but I would consider none this decade to be masterpieces. Spirited Away is tops for me.
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Wait a second.... are they really making an Ant Man movie? As in that crappy Marvel Superhero?
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Toy Story 3!
Marking my calender for that ****.

and wingboy, I hope it isn't that Ant.

(anyone remember the live action TV show?)
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I completly agree with you about the 70's being the golden age of cinema. The 80's were pretty weak with Raging Bull being the only pure masterpiece I feel that came out of that time. I am a huge fan of 90's films. There are just so many great movies that came out in that time period. So far in the 00's I feel it has been kind of the age of the foreign film. Of the top of my head the only movies that I consider masterpieces for this decade are There Will Be Blood and City of God.
What aboot Roadhouse....... or Rocky IV?
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