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Old 05-24-2009, 11:41 PM    (permalink
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Empire is my favorite with A New Hope coming in second. Jedi is good but episodes I-III are blah.
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Empire is my favorite with A New Hope coming in second. Jedi is good but episodes I-III are blah.
I agree with you in the order. Empire's my favorite movie of all time but I think the best scene of the trilogy (and one of my favorite scenes ever) is the second duel of the death star in ROTJ. Ewoks still suck though.

Also, The Beach is an incredibly underrated movie.
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No Country for Old Men is just now starting on Encore. I haven't watched this since I saw it in theatres. Hooray!
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I agree with you in the order. Empire's my favorite movie of all time but I think the best scene of the trilogy (and one of my favorite scenes ever) is the second duel of the death star in ROTJ. Ewoks still suck though.

Also, The Beach is an incredibly underrated movie.
The only good part about I-III is the scene where Obi-Won wrecks Anakin. I find it funny that the only people who didnt suck it up in I-III were Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor.

And, yes, The Beach is a really good movie.
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It wasn't just the script. Some of the acting was bad. Christian Bale was absolutely terrible. When he shouted "WHAT ARE YOU?" I started cracking up out loud. I didn't "connect" with any of the characters. The action was boring except at the end.
****SPOILER ALERT**** don't proceed further if you haven't seen T4 yet.....I saw it Friday & agree to the extent that the script & action in this "Summer action blockbuster" ran out of gas about halfway thru the film.

I wanted to the see the full scope of the post-apocalyptic war between the killer bots & human survivors since the 1st Terminator in 1985 with that scene of that future war in John Connor's dream, & this delivered on that desired formula, really liked the New Mexico setting too with the battle on that high bridge (BTW did anyone else notice that's the same NM bridge where Oliver Stone had Harrelson as Mickey Knox give his epiphany speech in Natural Born Killers?), but when the setting shifted to a new SF wit he bot factory the disappointments came fast & furious for me..... I realize I have to suspend disbelief to enjoy sci-fi or any fictional story, but when the CG effects take over the storyline for obvious showoff big screen eye candy appeal & I have problems there. That alone has killed a lot of CG films, see the Clone Attack Star Wars (just awful) & Van Helsing (even worse) & you know exactly what I mean.

No real problem with Bale's performance, he brings veritas to every role but the script as noted here just petered out & it ceased to be his story, the focus on the droid character changed everything for me. I seemed like a film that spent all its budget to put it all on the screen as the saying goes, & that may be enough for a summer actioner. I say it rates 2 stars: **

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The only good part about I-III is the scene where Obi-Won wrecks Anakin. I find it funny that the only people who didnt suck it up in I-III were Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor.

And, yes, The Beach is a really good movie.
The only Star Wars film worthy of 4+ stars was Empire b/c Lucas was busy doing American Graffiti & got his former Film School prof & old Hollywood pro Irvin Kershner to direct, Harrison Ford was justified in dissing RotJ as Teddy Bears On Parade b/c that ending just plain sucked balls.

DiCaprio can either make a film or break one, as he did breaking The Aviator b/c he was terribly miscast as Howard Hughes or the disappointing Body of Lies. But he nailed it in Blood Diamond, The Departed, & the Beach, & Tilda Swinton gave her standard superlative performance too, The Beach is very underrated & I say rent it ASAP. If you're a DiCaprio freak & still want more, Gangs of NY is a far better film with him directed by Scorsese also than Aviator.

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Which did you like better, Return of the Jedi, or Empire Strikes Back?
Empire.
Blasphemy.
'Empire' had the better ending. I mean, Luke gets his hand cut off, finds out Vader's his father, Han gets frozen and taken away by Boba Fett. It ends on such a down note. I mean, that's what life is, a series of down endings. All 'Jedi' had was a bunch of Muppets.

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My personal favorite movie and Star Wars is Return of the Jedi. The beginning is just so badass when Luke strolls up into Jabba's palace.
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I think Lucas missed out on making an epic, multi-generational war themed trilogy when he decided to put the emphasis on Padme and Anakin's relationship. The scene in ANH when Ben tells Luke "Obi-wan Kenobi. I haven't heard that name since,oh, before you were born." held a certain mystic to it. The trilogies really didn't deliver IMO.
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Just watched Sunshine Cleaning last night. It was a disappointment. I thought it would be more comedic and the drama wasn't very touching to me. I mean it may be because I am male and it deals with a mother-daughter dynamic that I thought it was lacking.
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The only Star Wars film worthy of 4+ stars was Empire b/c Lucas was busy doing American Graffiti & got his former Film School prof & old Hollywood pro Irvin Kershner to direct, Harrison Ford was justified in dissing RotJ as Teddy Bears On Parade b/c that ending just plain sucked balls.
How was he busy doing American Graffiti? Wasn't that like 4 years before the first movie?
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Ewoks were a result of Lucas' original desire to have Wookies in the third act. As it turned out, the Wookie idea turned into something else, but Lucas never let that idea go. I agree it could have been done much better. Not that the idea was bad, but it wasn't to the level of normal Lucas quality regarding certain film aspects. I mean, you could see the zippers in the Ewok suits in some scenes.
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"Empire Strikes back" is, without a doubt, the best Star Wars movie.
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I saw ANH with my Dad when it first came out. I don't remember much about the movie. I do remember holding my Dad's hand as we walked up into this, what seemed like, a huge theater with the red colored carpet and velvet rope.
ANH will always hold a special place in my heart.
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ANH will always hold a special place in my heart.
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Just watched Sunshine Cleaning last night. It was a disappointment. I thought it would be more comedic and the drama wasn't very touching to me. I mean it may be because I am male and it deals with a mother-daughter dynamic that I thought it was lacking.
The movie had it's charm, but I was underwhelmed. I really liked the cast, too, but I can agree that it just wasn't what I had hoped for. I thought it would be better, and I think it could've been better.

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Kudos to you WMD...cept for the Die Hard movies..watch em...the latest one was very over the top though rest were great..especially 2.
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I agree with you in the order. Empire's my favorite movie of all time but I think the best scene of the trilogy (and one of my favorite scenes ever) is the second duel of the death star in ROTJ. Ewoks still suck though.

Also, The Beach is an incredibly underrated movie.
I find it, extremely, extremely strange that I woke up and choose to watch the beach for the first time o cinemax today, and I come on here and ppl are talking about it. I swear I'm Jim Carry in the Truman show.
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never seen a Indiana Jones movie, hardly remember any Star Wars Movies. LotR was not my type of movie, but the first 2 die hards where awesome
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WMD Fun Fact: I have never watched any Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Indiana Jones, or Die Hard movies.
You didn't miss much with Star Wars, except maybe Empire, Lucas & Speilberg cutsied them up too much with those muppets & teddy bears. SW 3 with Ewan MacGregor & Liam Neeson was good for the Tatooine & arena sequences, & the ones with JarJar Binx & the Sith were borderline unwatchable. Vader was of course better as the Freudian Dark Father in this Jungian space opera epic, didn't like him as a teen or young Jedi. Rule of thumb with Star Wars: the older the film & the less CG, the better.

LotR s/b watched in order in a single marathon viewing session, or if that's too overwhelming go for RotK or the last 45 ins. of The 2 Towers for the armageddonlike battle sequences.

All of Indy Jones sucked except for the 1st Lost Ark & Last Crusade, they had the best 3rd Reich military hardware & best looking actresses anyway...... Temple of Doom should have gone straight to video & I think the Crystal Skulls one did

And the 1st Die Hard is one of my fave Xmas movies, really it is...... best line (Willis, over the radio): "You can call me 'Roy,' ..... Well, yippee-yi-yo, ki-Yay, m*therf*cker."

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Haha, what is your purpose in life? I felt I hadn't lived until after the Lord of the Rings trilogy..
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You didn't miss much with Star Wars, except maybe Empire, Lucas & Speilberg cutsied them up too much with those muppets & teddy bears. SW 3 with Ewan MacGregor & Liam Neeson was good for the Tatooine & arena sequences, & the ones with JarJar Binx & the Sith were borderline unwatchable. Vader was of course better as the Freudian Dark Father in this Jungian space opera epic, didn't like him as a teen or young Jedi. Rule of thumb with Star Wars: the older the film & the less CG, the better.

LotR s/b watched in order in a single marathon viewing session, or if that's too overwhelming go for RotK or the last 45 ins. of The 2 Towers for the armageddonlike battle sequences.

All of Indy Jones sucked except for the 1st Lost Ark & Last Crusade, they had the best 3rd Reich military hardware anyway...... Temple of Doom should have gone straight to video & I think the Crystal Skulls one did

And the 1st Die Hard is one of my fave Xmas movies, really it is...... best line (Willis, over the radio): "You can call me 'Roy,' ..... Well, yippee-yi-yo, ki-Yay, m*therf*cker."

Yeah, but if your going to take the time to watch all 3 Lord of the Rings movies in a row, it MUST be the extended versions. No excuses.
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