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Old 08-28-2009, 01:13 PM    (permalink
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Yes. I don't really like Citizen Kane. I know that it was amazing in that the shots they used for the movie were, at the time, original and far ahead of it's time, but the fact remains that I find that movie boring as ****.
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That's fine with me. Just don't claim that they don't have staying power. I used to be the same way about old movies but you should try watching some of those movies. I think you'll be surprised at how good some of those movies are.



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Shawshank vs. Goodfellas
fwiw i do think Original Scarface>Remake

Goddamn that's a hard one. it's like the better movie is Goodfellas but i enjoy Shawshank more.
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That's fine with me. Just don't claim that they don't have staying power.
Some think it sucks, and since it does, it's staying power is irrelevant to most people.

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I used to be the same way about old movies but you should try watching some of those movies. I think you'll be surprised at how good some of those movies are.
Or you'll have my reaction and actually try to watch those movies and you'll think they suck, then you'll hear people talk out their ******* necks about how great they are when they simply don't compare to todays cinema and you'll almost start hating all movies until you embrace the fact that those movies simply aren't for you and your opinion on Casablanca, Citizen Kane or Lawrence of Arbia is not wrong and you shouldn't even bother attempting to watch them. It's a waste of time. There are plenty of great movies that have been made over the last 40 years (especially the last 15) to choose from.

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Shawshank>Goodfellas
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I voted that way.

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Shawshank is better than Pulp for me, its close tho. Shawshank just may be my personal GOAT tho.
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Some think it sucks, and since it does, it's staying power is irrelevant to most people.


Or you'll have my reaction and actually try to watch those movies and you'll think they suck, then you'll hear people talk out their ******* necks about how great they are when they simply don't compare to todays cinema and you'll almost start hating all movies until you embrace the fact that those movies simply aren't for you and your opinion on Casablanca, Citizen Kane or Lawrence of Arbia is not wrong and you shouldn't even bother attempting to watch them. It's a waste of time. There are plenty of great movies that have been made over the last 40 years (especially the last 15) to choose from.
Immediately dismissing a movie because of age is absolutely ********. Just because the movie wasnt made in the last 40 years doesnt mean it will be bad. It wont be the movie you are expecting to see in theatres today, but isnt that the fun of it? I know personally, I enjoy watching alot of older movies to appreciate the influence they had on modern cinema. Of course, you seem like one of those people inundated with CGI and effects, and automatically associate those with a good movie. You are the guy who said the new Terminator was better then T2 because the effects were more impressive.

Those movies, like Casablanca, Citizen Kane, and Lawrence of Arabia, are classics for a reason. And while I agree that the latter 2 are somewhat slow, Casablanca is still an awesome movie that I can watch over and over.

And yes, you are right. There are tons of great movies that have been made in the last 40 years. And there were a ton of great movies made before that as well. Assuming a movie will be bad based purely on age and without watching the movie is, quite frankly, ignorant.
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I'd take Pulp Fiction and Goodfellas over Shawshank, but that's just me. All of them are probably in my top 7 or so.
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Immediately dismissing a movie because of age is absolutely ********. Just because the movie wasnt made in the last 40 years doesnt mean it will be bad. It wont be the movie you are expecting to see in theatres today, but isnt that the fun of it? I know personally, I enjoy watching alot of older movies to appreciate the influence they had on modern cinema. Of course, you seem like one of those people inundated with CGI and effects, and automatically associate those with a good movie. You are the guy who said the new Terminator was better then T2 because the effects were more impressive.

Those movies, like Casablanca, Citizen Kane, and Lawrence of Arabia, are classics for a reason. And while I agree that the latter 2 are somewhat slow, Casablanca is still an awesome movie that I can watch over and over.

And yes, you are right. There are tons of great movies that have been made in the last 40 years. And there were a ton of great movies made before that as well. Assuming a movie will be bad based purely on age and without watching the movie is, quite frankly, ignorant.
I totally agree. Though people who like movies just because they are old and considered classics are just as bad as the people who don't like movies just because they are old. You have to watch the movies and make your own judgements. The three movies you list are all great examples for me. I really enjoyed Casablanca. I liked Citizen Kane but didn't love it. And honestly, I fell asleep during Lawrence of Arabia. Though I'm glad I watched all of them because you have to know that any movie you see today is somehow influenced by those three movies.
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Shawshank!! This site is making me mad, my top 20 isn't even close to how it should be and I've spent hours on it.
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Shawshank!! This site is making me mad, my top 20 isn't even close to how it should be and I've spent hours on it.
My top 12 are pretty close.
1. Empire Strikes Back
2. Pulp Fiction
3. The Shining
4. Return of the Jedi
5. Scarface
6. Goodfellas
7. Casino
8. Fight Club
9. Snatch
10. Bladerunner
11. 12 Monkeys
12. The Devils Advocate

After that it falters off, I don't know how Three Kings is in there (my top 20) but it kept getting put against movies I hate.
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That's not what you were saying last week.

No one has ever professed any kind of love for you so you can drop that act.


I'll take Shawshank over Godfellas, but not over Pulp.
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MAYBE I CHANGED MY MIND!

No, seriously, though, I can appreciate Citizen Kane, but that does not mean I have to like it.
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Shawshank!! This site is making me mad, my top 20 isn't even close to how it should be and I've spent hours on it.
Same here. Try breaking down your Top 50. Then after a while move to your Top 20. This will help bring the movies that you want to be higher and vice versa. If you just go by all movies it will never end and you'll end up with a messed up Top 20.
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just for generation sake i'd take Snatch. i think a movie like that holds up better over time anyway imo.
holds up over time better than Casablanca? Maybe for your personal tastes but generally I think you give the longevity nod to the flick made 60 years ago that still rocks.
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Same here. Try breaking down your Top 50. Then after a while move to your Top 20. This will help bring the movies that you want to be higher and vice versa. If you just go by all movies it will never end and you'll end up with a messed up Top 20.
Yeah, I had mostly just been doing all movies, then all my movies. I've widdled it down now, my top ten looks about right... not sure how Two Towers or From Russia with Love got in my top 20 though...

1. Shawshank Redemption
2. There Will Be Blood
3. Fight Club
4. The Truman Show
5. Pulp Fiction
6. V for Vendetta
7. Seven
8. Batman Begins
9. Memento
10. Goodfellas
11. The Departed
12. Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
13. Snatch
14. Return of the King
15. Spirited Away
16. Red Dragon
17. Being John Malkovich
18. Toy Story 2
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I've got to see Shawshank cause I have been considering GoodFellas right there as the greatest movie I have ever seen
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