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Old 08-08-2007, 09:04 PM    (permalink
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Tressel/Carr head to head

2001 Ohio State wins
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I'm aware of the Tressel/Carr series breakdown. That doesn't change that Lloyd is a .500 coach in this rivalry.
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By the way, you guys don't need Malcolm Jenkins. We'll trade you Morgan Trent and Johnny Sears for him. ;)
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Chris Wells makes me want to go in hiding and not come out.

Your either very young or very small I take it?
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Haha no I'm 20 years old and about the same size as Beanie. He's a tad more cut and jacked than I am ;)
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I'm aware of the Tressel/Carr series breakdown. That doesn't change that Lloyd is a .500 coach in this rivalry.
Well that doesn't really count though, Cooper couldn't win a big game for anything. The only bowl game or Michigan game he ever won where he wasn't very heavily favored in was the 97 Rose Bowl. The point is Tressel owns Llllloyd, and guaranteeing a victory is a pretty bold move considering.
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Well that doesn't really count though,
Sure it counts. What because the result isn't in your favor it doesn't count? I guess Lloyd is 5-1 vs. OSU since the Tressel games don't count because I didn't like the result of them.

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The entire roster is completely jacked.
That is something I can agree with. Laurinaitis looks like he might even be able to shed a block this year!
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I'm suprised a Michigan fan didnt bring up the overall rivarly record... thats usually what they have to resort to.
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Sure it counts. What because the result isn't in your favor it doesn't count? I guess Lloyd is 5-1 vs. OSU since the Tressel games don't count because I didn't like the result of them.
Well by that matter, why don't we just compare the woody hayes and bo schembechler records too? Becuase obviously they're extremely relevant.

Fact is, the only relevant series is the Tressel Carr one, in which we're 5-1. The cooper- Carr series is moot since there are no cooper players here, and he's not our coach.


Okey dokey, first off, your safeties are average. Maybe not bad, but your cornerbacks suck. Shawn Crable is a good linebacker, thats it. 1 player doesn't make your back 7 good sorry to say. Defensive line? I'll give you Tim Jamison, and i'll give you a benefit of the doubt in saying that Brandon Graham or Chris Graham might be good, but anything other than that and i'll be reaching.


I dont think PSU will have a better overall record than Michigan, but they play us tougher. I expect PSU and Michigan to be about the same in the loss column. PSU might not have a great offense, but their defense is loaded, and Morelli DID improve as the season went on. He'll be better this year no doubt. Great? Doubt that, but either way.

Wisconsin is the only team who is as well rounded as OSU is coming back. Thats why I think Wiscy will be a 1 loss team losing to OSU, while OSU loses away at PSU.
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BTW, Chris Wells is 240 lbs, and has the same speed as Antonio Pittman who ran a sub 4.4 forty at the combine. He's a freak. Here is a pic... it just shows how much bigger he is than everyone else....



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Well by that matter, why don't we just compare the woody hayes and bo schembechler records too? Becuase obviously they're extremely relevant.

Well no. Because you're talking about what Carr has done vs. OSU. It's Ohio State, not Tressel State.

Okey dokey, first off, your safeties are average. Maybe not bad, but your cornerbacks suck. Shawn Crable is a good linebacker, thats it. 1 player doesn't make your back 7 good sorry to say. Defensive line? I'll give you Tim Jamison, and i'll give you a benefit of the doubt in saying that Brandon Graham or Chris Graham might be good, but anything other than that and i'll be reaching.

Terrance Taylor is an animal. He's one of the best DT's in the conference returning. B. Graham is a Woodley clone. The other guys, English will make them good. Come on. Woodley, Harris, Burgess, etc.. were pretty much underachievers until last year. They were good, but first in the country in rush D good.


I dont think PSU will have a better overall record than Michigan, but they play us tougher. I expect PSU and Michigan to be about the same in the loss column. PSU might not have a great offense, but their defense is loaded, and Morelli DID improve as the season went on. He'll be better this year no doubt. Great? Doubt that, but either way.

PSU looked like a powerhouse last year vs. you guys. All Morelli did last year was beat a vastly overhyped Tennessee team (SEC SPEED!) He looked terrible vs. ND, OSU, UM etc...

Wisconsin is the only team who is as well rounded as OSU is coming back. Thats why I think Wiscy will be a 1 loss team losing to OSU, while OSU loses away at PSU.

Wisconsin has PJ Hill, a supremely overrated RB on offense and Travis Beckum, a really good TE. Other than that???? Uhhhhhhh....How is that well-rounded? And OSU has as many question marks on O as UM does on D, so how are you well-rounded? Chris Wells is a beast but he hasn't proven **** as a starter yet. And that's your best returning skill player. Both Wisco and OSU figure to have really good defenses, but well-rounded? Not yet.
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BTW, Chris Wells is 240 lbs, and has the same speed as Antonio Pittman who ran a sub 4.4 forty at the combine. He's a freak. Here is a pic... it just shows how much bigger he is than everyone else....



He's #28...
Not doubting his size or ability. Let's see how he does a starter before we annoint him the next LT.
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Chris Wells = next Jamal Lewis except without the scared running.
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Jamal Lewis is horrible. He only had big games against the team he joined. He is past his prime.
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Well, now, sure, but he was pretty good during his prime.
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Well of course... If your in a prime, you have some talent. I think Wells will be a Stephen Jackson type back, if his speed improves a bit.
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Well of course... If your in a prime, you have some talent. I think Wells will be a Stephen Jackson type back, if his speed improves a bit.
He already runs a sub 4.45. How much faster do you want him to be?
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4.35... Ginny speed... haha I'm just messing. He's a beast.
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Nah, Wells can run great off tackle and around the edge. Lewis has always been a between the tackles guy even though he is 4.4 fast. Wells is more like Ricky Williams or Eddie George. He actually is a lot like Jim Brown except not that good....and he actually does really resemble Brown in the face.
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Nah, Wells can run great off tackle and around the edge. Lewis has always been a between the tackles guy even though he is 4.4 fast. Wells is more like Ricky Williams or Eddie George. He actually is a lot like Jim Brown except not that good....and he actually does really resemble Brown in the face.
The best comparison I can think of for Wells is Deuce McCallister. I think he might be a little faster than Deuce was in college, but I think they have very similar skill sets.
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Sure it counts. What because the result isn't in your favor it doesn't count? I guess Lloyd is 5-1 vs. OSU since the Tressel games don't count because I didn't like the result of them.
I mean they don't count for right now. Tressel is not Cooper, and Carr is 1-5 against Tressel. What have you done for me lately is the name of the game in sports.
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I can't wait til the **** eye fans come to Ann Arbor. the last time they walked threw I was at SAE and **** eye's were yelling and talking **** to a whole party of michigan fans. Guys from the house came out and I got to see one of the biggest ass kickings i have ever seen in my entire life. Instead of watching the game at the big house the **** eyes got to watch it from the E.R.
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I can't wait til the **** eye fans come to Ann Arbor. the last time they walked threw I was at SAE and **** eye's were yelling and talking **** to a whole party of michigan fans. Guys from the house came out and I got to see one of the biggest ass kickings i have ever seen in my entire life. Instead of watching the game at the big house the **** eyes got to watch it from the E.R.
and you guys won that game right?
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At that point i could careless if we won that game or not, because i was witness to a horribly amazing ass kicking.
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