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Old 08-09-2007, 01:33 PM    (permalink
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Which team do you think will have the biggest drop-off next season??? Teams that were good last year but will be a big dissapointment this year.

Personally I'd say the Giants and the Chiefs.

The Giants lost their best player in Tiki and could also lose Strahan if he retires. Both of their Left Tackles are gone and Guy Whimper is the replacement. Also on Defense they lost both of their OLB's and Kiwi is going to play their. On top of all that their coach Tom Coughlin is on the verge of being fired.

Kansas City was always a power running team with a great O-line. With Shields and Roaf now gone their O-line is diminishing. Also with their best player likely to hold-out and a first year quarterback starting for them they are going to struggle on offense. Their defence is still weak and an area for concern.

I expect both teams to pick in the Top 7 next year.


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I think you hit it pretty well with New York and KC. The Titans are another team that I think will as well.
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Yeah I don't see KC/NYG/TEN matching what they did last year.

KC/NYG for reasons stated plenty of times this offseason and TEN for the fact that they're less Pacman and won't have the sort of luck they had last year.
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The Chargers, not to say that they will drop off drastically, but they def. wont go 14-2 again... maybe 10-12 wins.
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Atlanta and NYG.

Giants for the reasons you mentioned, plus I'm not a believer in Manning at all.

Atlanta because apparently DJ is the best QB in camp. If he's your best QB you're in for a long season. Abraham's inability to stay healthy along with losing Kerney just makes it worse.
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If NYG go better then 3-13 I would be shocked!
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i think TACKLE you pretty much said my teams and explanations for me. Giants/KC
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Which team do you think will have the biggest drop-off next season??? Teams that were good last year but will be a big dissapointment this year.

Personally I'd say the Giants and the Chiefs.

The Giants lost their best player in Tiki and could also lose Strahan if he retires. Both of their Left Tackles are gone and Guy Whimper is the replacement. Also on Defense they lost both of their OLB's and Kiwi is going to play their. On top of all that their coach Tom Coughlin is on the verge of being fired.

Kansas City was always a power running team with a great O-line. With Shields and Roaf now gone their O-line is diminishing. Also with their best player likely to hold-out and a first year quarterback starting for them they are going to struggle on offense. Their defence is still weak and an area for concern.

I expect both teams to pick in the Top 7 next year.


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I couldn't agree with you more...the Chiefs and the Giants are the most likely in my mind.
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Titans- tougher schedule and Young struggled against good D's I can see then going 5-11 or 6-10.

Falcons- Joey Harrington as their QB= horrible year. I see them going 4-12 at best.
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Which team do you think will have the biggest drop-off next season??? Teams that were good last year but will be a big dissapointment this year.

Personally I'd say the Giants and the Chiefs.

The Giants lost their best player in Tiki and could also lose Strahan if he retires. Both of their Left Tackles are gone and Guy Whimper is the replacement. Also on Defense they lost both of their OLB's and Kiwi is going to play their. On top of all that their coach Tom Coughlin is on the verge of being fired.

Kansas City was always a power running team with a great O-line. With Shields and Roaf now gone their O-line is diminishing. Also with their best player likely to hold-out and a first year quarterback starting for them they are going to struggle on offense. Their defence is still weak and an area for concern.

I expect both teams to pick in the Top 7 next year.


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David Diehl is going to be our LT. Also, Mitchell and Kiwi are upgrades over Arrington and Emmons.
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The question was about, and I quote, "teams that were good last year but will be a big dissapointment this year." The Giants, while they did make the playoffs, were not exactly what I'd call a "good" team last season. As for the Falcons, they stunk in 2006.

Kansas City depends on the QB situation, but I could easily see them hovering around .500 if LJ shows up (and he will) and either Croyle or Huard plays just decent football. I think their defense will be improved, and looking at their schedule I can very easily see 7 wins.

The biggest "disappointment" IMO could be the Colts. Granted, they'll still win 10 games and make the playoffs, BUT: they won't be able to stop the run at all, they lost their best O-Lineman (their left tackle, at that...) to retirement, and coming from a huge LSU fan I have my doubts that Joe Addai can handle the load (which could be disaster if he can't, considering the chumps they have backing him up). With that said, they still have Manning, Harrison, and Wayne so that offense will definitely carry them to a good season, but my money is on the Jags to win the division. The defending SB champs not winning their division is a disappointment, IMO.

And of course, as a Saints fan, I have thoughts in the back of my head that this season will be a let-down. They are the Saints, after all...
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The Chargers, not to say that they will drop off drastically, but they def. wont go 14-2 again... maybe 10-12 wins.
who did they lose, seriously?
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besides their HC, DC and OC??? not a lot player wise, but it's hard to believe that a teams going to repeat or improve on a 14-2 record...
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Head Coach and both Coordinators?
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besides their HC, DC and OC??? not a lot player wise, but it's hard to believe that a teams going to repeat or improve on a 14-2 record...
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oh right, forgot about that... damn you don't go online for a while and this stuff gets away so quickly.
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Kansas City was always a power running team with a great O-line. With Shields and Roaf now gone their O-line is diminishing. Also with their best player likely to hold-out and a first year quarterback starting for them they are going to struggle on offense. Their defence is still weak and an area for concern.
I didn't know being 16th in the NFL was weak for a D our O is not going to be very good I agree but people are going to be shocked by how our D plays we really started to turn it around last year this ain't DV's D.
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besides their HC, DC and OC??? not a lot player wise, but it's hard to believe that a teams going to repeat or improve on a 14-2 record...
I still doubt losing those guys will consitute enough losses for the season to be considered a "disappointment"...I know you don't either, because you already said you could see 10-12 wins for them, but is losing 2 more games really a "disappointment" or drop-off. Sure its a drop off, but I doubt a two game swing will be the biggest drop off there is in the NFL...If I had to guess teams that might have bigger drop offs, I would guess maybe the Jets or Saints, teams whose schedules weren't incredibly difficult, and won ten games, that may (not definitely) fall back with a harder schedule this year.
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I still doubt losing those guys will consitute enough losses for the season to be considered a "disappointment"...I know you don't either, because you already said you could see 10-12 wins for them, but is losing 2 more games really a "disappointment" or drop-off. Sure its a drop off, but I doubt a two game swing will be the biggest drop off there is in the NFL...If I had to guess teams that might have bigger drop offs, I would guess maybe the Jets or Saints, teams whose schedules weren't incredibly difficult, and won ten games, that may (not definitely) fall back with a harder schedule this year.
Uhh, come again? Last year the Saints played the AFC North and the NFC East. This year we've got the AFC South and NFC West. I've got no problem with you predicting the Saints to have a drop-off in 2007, but your reasoning is incredibly erroneous.
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Uhh, come again? Last year the Saints played the AFC North and the NFC East. This year we've got the AFC South and NFC West. I've got no problem with you predicting the Saints to have a drop-off in 2007, but your reasoning is incredibly erroneous.
Eh, maybe I shouldn't have just listed teams off the top of my head, don't know why I assumed they had a weaker schedule..probably because of where they finished last year in comparison to the previous year...my mistake...

Generally what I was trying to say was some of the teams that had great seasons last year, due to their strength of schedule are more likely for a fall off, then say San Diego would.
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The Chargers, not to say that they will drop off drastically, but they def. wont go 14-2 again... maybe 10-12 wins.
I think Phillip Rivers won't have nearly as good of a year last year as he will this year. He does have Norv Turner as his head coach, but not OC. Norv has never really turned out to do that well with offenses when he is HC, just ask Oakland and Redskins fans...
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im not getting into this, what Giantsfan1080 said will suffice, and i agree with him. anyone is an upgrade over Carlos Emmons at LB... I'll just let the regular seaosn do the talking...
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They're definitely a candidate for having a drop-off, but they've still got enough talent to get in at least 9 or 10 wins. I really doubt they end up with a losing season.
Oh yeah I wasn't saying they will have a losing season, just don't think they will hit the heights of last year. If Booger is down long term as seems to be the case from what I have read, that's a big loss for them.
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The Giants and Chiefs seem to be a pretty obvious choice. I also think that the Saints and Titans qualify. I liked the story of the Saints last year and I was rooting for them to win the Super Bowl, but I think people need to remember that they were 10-6 last year, not an amazing 13-3 or 14-2 record. Their defense could become an issue for them. I liked watching Vince Young last year, but statistically he wasn't very good. On top of that, the Titans have virtually nothing else.

As far as a team that I think will struggle and everyone else thinks will be good, its the 49ers. I have argued my stance on this several times before, so I will just sum it up. The 49ers had one of the worst points differentials in the NFL, which means that in a typical season they would not have gone 7-9. Meaning they were lucky to have that 7-9 record. Alex Smith made great strides last season, mostly because he was striding forward from being utterly atrocious. Even with that stride forward, he was 22nd in QB rating. Their WR corps are very weak, better than last year, but still weak. Their defense was terrible last season and I doubt that the additions of Clements, Banta-Cain, and Willis will make that much of a difference. Clements is certainly a good CB, but any time a list of overrated CB's comes up, his name is mentioned. Banta-Cain is an amazingly overrated signing. He has 90 tackles in 4 seasons, and just 42 last season. Yeah, that definitely qualifies as season changing play. Willis is a rookie, he will be good, but expecting him to make a huge difference is asking quite a bit.
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