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Old 08-14-2007, 05:17 AM    (permalink
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Props to Shiver for Jacksonville love.

People are going to be really, really surprised with our new offense this year.
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Old 08-14-2007, 05:56 AM    (permalink
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The only teams I shall predict:

Oakland - 5-11

Detroit - 7-9

Kansas City - 3-13

Miami - 4-12
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Old 08-14-2007, 06:16 AM    (permalink
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I took the insult option just because it was an insult, but that list looks solid. You might have the Jets a tad overrated, but that's not really a shock.
A little more than a tad.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:08 AM    (permalink
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sorry if there are any errors that i failed to notice...

AFC East
New England Patriots 12-4
New York Jets 10-6
Miami Dolphins 7-9
Buffalo Bills 5-11

AFC North
Cincinnati Bengals 10-6
Baltimore Ravens 10-6
Pittsburgh Steelers 9-7
Cleveland Browns 5-11

AFC South

Indianapolis Colts 12-4
Jacksonville Jaguars 10-6
Tennessee Titans 8-8
Houston Texans 6-10

AFC West
San Diego Chargers 13-3
Denver Broncos 10-6
Kansas City Chiefs 5-11
Oakland Raiders 3-13

NFC East

Philadelphia Eagles 9-7
Dallas Cowboys 9-7
New York Giants 7-9
Washington Redskins 5-11

NFC North
Chicago Bears 11-5
Green Bay Packers 6-10
Detroit Lions 5-11
Minnesota Vikings 5-11

NFC South

New Orleans Saints 10-6
Carolina Panthers 8-8
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5-11
Atlanta Falcons 4-12

NFC West

Seattle Seahawks 10-6
St. Louis Rams 10-6
San Francesco 7-9
Arizona Cardinals 6-10
You've gotta give out 4 more wins and take away 4 losses. I'd suggest giving them to the NFC since you've got them going 21-43 against the AFC at this point. I can't imagine them doing even worse than last year, but hey, anything's possible. I'm not sure I'd bank on more than one division getting just 27 wins. Maybe add a victory or two to either the NFC North or South and it would be a bit more realistic I think. I think the North deserves a bit more credit. Maybe give them 29 or 30 wins. I mean, those 4 wins gotta go somewhere. But yeah, that's the only real error I see.
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:16 AM    (permalink
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shiver's had alot of suprises but i liked it :)
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You've gotta give out 4 more wins and take away 4 losses. I'd suggest giving them to the NFC since you've got them going 21-43 against the AFC at this point. I can't imagine them doing even worse than last year, but hey, anything's possible. I'm not sure I'd bank on more than one division getting just 27 wins. Maybe add a victory or two to either the NFC North or South and it would be a bit more realistic I think. I think the North deserves a bit more credit. Maybe give them 29 or 30 wins. I mean, those 4 wins gotta go somewhere. But yeah, that's the only real error I see.
wait if something doesn't add up it means i transfered it wrong from the schedule i made my picks on... cause i didnt just make up random records which i stated before... and i didnt really overate the jets that much

New England --- L
Baltimore --- L
Miami --- W
Buffalo --- W
N.Y. Giants --- W
Philadelphia --- L
Cincinnati --- L
Buffalo --- W
Washington --- W
Pittsburgh --- W
Dallas --- L
Miami --- W
Cleveland --- W
New England --- L
Tennessee --- W
Kansas City --- W
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I'm having a lot of trouble seeing a team with a defense as bad as Cincy's finishing ahead of Baltimore or Pittsburgh. I think they're a .500 team.
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If the Jets get 10 wins this year I will be ecstatic.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:24 AM    (permalink
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I'm having a lot of trouble seeing a team with a defense as bad as Cincy's finishing ahead of Baltimore or Pittsburgh. I think they're a .500 team.
they have by far the best offense in the divison. The defense will do good enough
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Chicago Bears : 11-5
Green Bay Packers : 9-7
Detroit Lions : 6-10
Minnesota Vikings : 5-11

New Orleans Saints : 10-6
Carolina Panthers : 9-7
Atlanta Falcons : 5-11
Tampa Bay Buccaneers : 5-11

Philadelphia Eagles : 11-5
Dallas Cowboys : 10-6
Washington Redskins : 7-9
New York Giants : 6-10

San Francisco 49ers : 10-6
St. Louis Rams : 9-7
Seattle Seahawks : 8-8
Arizona Cardinals : 7-9

Baltimore Ravens : 11-5
Cincinnati Bengals : 9-7
Pittsburgh Steelers : 9-7
Cleveland Browns : 4-12

Indianapolis Colts : 10-6
Jacksonville Jaguars : 10-6
Tennessee Titans : 5-11
Houston Texans : 5-11

New England Patriots : 12-4
Buffalo Bills : 8-8
New York Jets : 8-8
Miami Dolphins : 7-9

San Diego Chargers : 11-5

Denver Broncos : 10-6
Kansas City Chiefs : 5-11
Oakland Raiders : 4-12
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Chicago Bears : 11-5
Green Bay Packers : 9-7
Detroit Lions : 6-10
Minnesota Vikings : 5-11

New Orleans Saints : 10-6
Carolina Panthers : 9-7
Atlanta Falcons : 5-11
Tampa Bay Buccaneers : 5-11

Philadelphia Eagles : 11-5
Dallas Cowboys : 10-6
Washington Redskins : 7-9
New York Giants : 6-10

San Francisco 49ers : 10-6
St. Louis Rams : 9-7
Seattle Seahawks : 8-8
Arizona Cardinals : 7-9

Baltimore Ravens : 11-5
Cincinnati Bengals : 9-7
Pittsburgh Steelers : 9-7
Cleveland Browns : 4-12

Indianapolis Colts : 10-6
Jacksonville Jaguars : 10-6
Tennessee Titans : 5-11
Houston Texans : 5-11

New England Patriots : 12-4
Buffalo Bills : 8-8
New York Jets : 8-8
Miami Dolphins : 7-9

San Diego Chargers : 11-5

Denver Broncos : 10-6
Kansas City Chiefs : 5-11
Oakland Raiders : 4-12
I think CLE will do better than HOU, but nice predictions
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i don't see buffalo doing that well... their schedule isn't necessarily easy... in order for them to do that they need to beat the jets and dolphins twice
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I like Patriots-Lions' list the best. But I don't see two teams coming out of the NFC East with 10+ wins. We beat up on eachother too much for multiple teams to have 10 wins.
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In recent years, there are always turn-around teams from season to season. Some teams turn good, other turn bad. To make a prediction of the standings, I think the most important thing is try to find this teams.

This are the standings of the past two years:

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AFC EAST

New England Patriots : (10 - 6) - (12 - 4)
New York Jets : (4 - 12) - (10 - 6)
Buffalo Bills : (5 - 11) - (7 - 9)
Miami Dolphins : (9 - 7) - (6 - 10)

AFC WEST

San Diego Chargers : (9 - 7) - (14 - 2)
Kansas City Chiefs : (10 - 6) - (9 - 7)
Denver Broncos : (13 - 3) - (9 - 7)
Oakland Raiders : (4 - 12) - (2 - 14)

AFC NORTH

Baltimore Ravens : (6 - 10) - (13 - 3)
Pittsburgh Steelers : (11 - 5) - (8 - 8)
Cleveland Browns : (6 - 10) - (4 - 12)
Cincinnati Bengals : (11 - 5) - (8 - 8)

AFC SOUTH

Indianapolis Colts : (14 - 2) - (12 - 4)
Jacksonville Jaguars : (12 - 4) - (8 - 8)
Houston Texans : (4 - 12) - (6 - 10)
Tennessee Titans : (2 - 14) - (8 - 8)

NFC EAST

Dallas Cowboys : (9 - 7) - (9 - 7)
Philadelphia Eagles : (6 - 10) - (10 - 6)
Washington Redskins : (10 - 6) - (5 - 11)
New York Giants : (11 - 5) - (8 - 8)

NFC WEST

San Francisco 49ers : (4 - 12) - (7 - 9)
St. Louis Rams : (6 - 10) - (8 - 8)
Seattle Seahawks : (13 - 3) - (9 - 7)
Arizona Cardinals : (5 - 11) - (5 - 11)

NFC SOUTH

New Orleans Saints : (3 - 13) - (10 - 6)
Carolina Panthers : (11 - 5) - (8 - 8)
Atlanta Falcons : (8 - 8) - (7 - 9)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers : (11 - 5) - (4 - 12)

NFC NORTH

Chicago Bears : (11 - 5) - (13 - 3)
Green Bay Packers : (4 - 12) - (8 - 8)
Detroit Lions : (5 - 11) - (3 - 13)
Minnesota Vikings : (9 - 7) - (6 - 10)

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8 teams had at least 3 more wins in 2006. 5 of them went from a losing record into a winning one, two of them went to an 8-8. The 49ers are the only team that, while improving by 3 wins their record, still had a losing record.

I expect these teams to be have a boost in their W column and/or have a winning record:

Buffalo Bills (10 - 6)
Denver Broncos (11 - 5)
Jacksonville Jaguars (12 - 4)
St Louis Rams (10 - 6)
Seattle Seahawks (12 - 4)
Carolina Panthers (12 - 4)
Cincinnati Benglas (11 - 5)

10 teams had at least 3 less wins in 2006. 3 of them went from a winning record into a losing one. 5 went from a winning record into 8-8.

I expect these teams to lose more games in 2007:

New York Jets (6 - 10)
Kansas City Chiefs (6 - 10)
New York Giants (5 - 11)
Atlanta Falcons (4 - 12)
Baltimore Ravens (10 - 6)
Pittsburgh Steelers (6 - 10)
Tennesse Titans (5 - 11)

I expect teams like the Redskins, Cardinals, Lions, Dolphins, Browns, Raiders and Vikings to stay in the mediocrity, in the 2-6 wins range.
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My predictions: I don't do record predictions because it's too tedious and takes away from the fun of predictions.

AFC East
New England Patriots (homefield advantage)
Buffalo Bills
New York Jets
Miami Dolphins

AFC North
Baltimore Ravens
Cincinnati Bengals
Pittsburgh Steelers
Cleveland Browns

AFC South
Indianapolis Colts (#2 seed)
Jacksonville Jaguars (WC)
Houston Texans
Tennessee Titans

AFC West
San Diego Chargers
Denver Broncos (WC)
Kansas City Chiefs
Oakland Raiders

NFC East
Dallas Cowboys (#2 seed)
Philadelphia Eagles (WC)
Washington Redskins
New York Giants

NFC North
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers
Chicago Bears
Minnesota Vikings

NFC South
Carolina Panthers
New Orleans Saints
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Atlanta Falcons

NFC West
St. Louis Rams (homefield advantage)
Seattle Seahawks (WC)
San Francisco 49ers
Arizona Cardinals

Playoffs:

AFC:
Chargers over Jacksonville
Ravens over Denver

Chargers defeat Colts
Patriots defeat Ravens

NFC:

Eagles over Lions
Seahawks over Panthers

Eagles over Rams
Cowboys over Seahawks

Conference Finals:

Patriots over Chargers
Cowboys over Eagles due to home field advantage.

Super Bowl Champ: Patriots defeat Cowboys
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Props to Shiver for Jacksonville love.

People are going to be really, really surprised with our new offense this year.
I have to say negative props to shiver for the Bronco hate. Only 13-3? WEEEAK ;)
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Green Bay Packers
Chicago Bears
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I hate that entire division. I think the Bears are in for a fall, and I don't like the Packers to fill that void. Detroit seems like a crappy playoff team, but it just made sense.
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wait if something doesn't add up it means i transfered it wrong from the schedule i made my picks on... cause i didnt just make up random records which i stated before... and i didnt really overate the jets that much

New England --- L
Baltimore --- L
Miami --- W
Buffalo --- W
N.Y. Giants --- W
Philadelphia --- L
Cincinnati --- L
Buffalo --- W
Washington --- W
Pittsburgh --- W
Dallas --- L
Miami --- W
Cleveland --- W
New England --- L
Tennessee --- W
Kansas City --- W
Come on now. The Bills and Jets splitting is as close to a sure thing as there is in football.
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I hate that entire division. I think the Bears are in for a fall, and I don't like the Packers to fill that void. Detroit seems like a crappy playoff team, but it just made sense.
Aside from DET's WR core, GB beats them at just about every position.
DET's defense is still pretty far off and it seems that mean people are thinking they'll ride a WR core to the playoffs. Last time I checked you need a line to block for you so you can throw the ball. You need RB's to keep the defense honest. And you need a QB who wont make bad decisions (Though Favre does alot too)
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Of all of my predictions, I hate that division the most. Something about GB just bothers me. I think it's their lack of a defined running threat at this time and the shaky WR corps that bothers me. I like their defense quite a bit, but I don't trust Favre to carry any offense.
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Of all of my predictions, I hate that division the most. Something about GB just bothers me. I think it's their lack of a defined running threat at this time and the shaky WR corps that bothers me. I like their defense quite a bit, but I don't trust Favre to carry any offense.
And you shouldn't. Unless he unexpectedly becomes the Brett Favre of last decade.
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And you shouldn't. Unless he unexpectedly becomes the Brett Favre of last decade.
Favre or Kitna?
Plus Favre hasnt been on a good team since 2004, this team is almost as good as that one.
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I would say that the defense is as good as 2004 and the OLine is maybe in the neighborhood, but the offensive skill players cannot possibly be anywhere near the quality that Favre needs to help this team win.
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I would say that the defense is as good as 2004 and the OLine is maybe in the neighborhood, but the offensive skill players cannot possibly be anywhere near the quality that Favre needs to help this team win.
I can see what ya mean about the skill players.
Morency/Jackson/Herron < Green/Davenport/Fisher
Driver is still a 1200yd WR and Jennings is getting there, but bubba is no where near the Bubba of '04
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