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Old 08-15-2007, 12:31 AM    (permalink
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NFC South Time (AFC will be tomorrow, I am a lazy pile)

1. New Orleans (11-5)
Wins:@ TB, Ten, Car, @ Sea, @ SF, STL, @ Hou, TB, Az, Phi, @ Chi
Losses:@ Ind, Atl, Jax, @ Car, @ Atl

2. Atlanta....ooh boy (10-6)
Wins:@ Min, Car, Hou, @ Ten, NYG, @ NO, SF, TB, NO, @ Az
Losses:@ Jax, @ Car, Ind, @ STL, @ TB, Sea

3. Carolina (8-8)
Wins:Hou, TB, Atl, @ GB, NO, SF, Sea, Dal
Losses:@ STL, @ Atl, @ NO, @ Az, Ind, @ Ten, @ Jax, @ TB

4. Tampa Bay (5-11)
Wins:Ten, Jax, @ Hou, Atl, Car
Losses:@ Sea, NO, STL, @ Car, @ Ind, @ Det, Az, @ Atl, Wsh, @ NO, @ SF

New Orleans is more than a one year wonder. I am not sold on their D, but McAllister, Brees, Bush, and Colston, to use a quote from a famous guy: VERY NICE! I gotta stick to my guts, and stick to what I said about Atlanta (see sig), I truely believe that. Carolina is too inconsistent, although the last two years I picked them to go to the super bowl, so this year they will prolly go there, but hey, I have them going 8-8. And Tampa, well, um, I think I was a little optimistic about other teams, and Tampa took the brunt of it. But I stick to what I say. Yeah, their D is good, but Cadilac is a ?, and so is their WR core.

NFC Recap

NFC East
1. Eagles: 11-5. 3 seed in playoffs, lost to the Saints in week 16.
2. Cowboys: 9-7.
3. Giants: 7-9
4. Redskins: 6-10

NFC North
1. Bears. 13-3. 1 seed in playoffs.
2. Packers 10-6. 5 seed in playoffs, I flipped a coin, they were heads, Falcons were tails, came up heads. It was a 2007 American Quarter, with the most worthless state in the land on the back, Washington. All it gave us is Black Sheep.
3. Vikings 5-11.
4. Lions 5-11.

NFC South
1. Saints. 11-5. 2 Seed, Beat the Eagles in week 16.
2. Falcons. 10-6. 6 seed in playoffs, I flipped a coin, they were tails, Packers were heads, came up heads. It was a 2007 American Quarter, with the most worthless state in the land on the back, Washington. All it gave us was the movie Black Sheep.
3. Panthers. 8-8
4. Buccaneers. 5-11

NFC West
1. Rams. 10-6. 4 seed in the Playoffs.
2. 49ers. 7-9
3. Seahawks. 6-10
4. Cardinals. 5-11

Playoffs
3 Eagles over 6 Falcons
4 Rams over 5 Packers

1 Bears over 4 Rams
2 Saints over 3 Eagles

1 Bears over 2 Saints

Yeah, it is pretty much the same as last year except for the wild card teams and west division winner, so I will prolly be wrong, but that is what I think. Gotta a problem with that? Well, too bad.
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AFC East

1. New England (13-3)
2. New York (7-9)
3. Buffalo (7-9)
4. Miami (4-12)

AFC North

1. Cincinnati (12-4)
2. Pittsburgh (8-8)
3. Baltimore (7-9)
4. Cleveland (5-11)

AFC South

1. Indianapolis (13-3)
2. Jacksonville (9-7)

3. Houston (6-10)
4 Tennessee (5-11)

AFC West

1. San Diego (13-3)
2. Denver (9-6-1)

3. Oakland (5-10-1)
4. Kansas City (5-11)

NFC East

1. Dallas (11-5)
2. Philadelphia (8-8)
3. New York (8-8)
4. Washington (6-10)


NFC North

1. Chicago (11-5)
2. Green Bay (9-7)
3. Detroit (5-11)
4. Minnesota (5-11)

NFC South

1. Carolina (12-4)
2. New Orleans (10-6)

3. Tampa Bay (6-10)
4. Atlanta (3-13)


NFC West

1. St Louis (11-5)
2. Seattle (9-7)

3. San Francisco (7-9)
4. Arizona (5-11)
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1. Cincinnati (12-4)
2. Pittsburgh (8-8)
3. Baltimore (7-9)
4. Cleveland (5-11)
Worst rankings I've seen to date.
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yea its pretty bad i have like four 13 win teams dont listen to the numbers and sorry for putting your Ravens so low
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yea its pretty bad i have like four 13 win teams dont listen to the numbers and sorry for putting your Ravens so low
While I accept your apology I am deeply saddened by the Ravens' prediction. But I love the predicting of a tie though.
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Wow. 6-10. That's low, real low.
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6-10 for who?
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The New England Patriots.
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who said New England will go 6-10 i think they'll have the best regular season record in the NFL
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At this point in their careers, they are esentially the same player. Last year, Kitna completed a much better percentage of his passes and they had a nearly identical TD:INT ratio. With the addition of Calvin Johnson, it would not surprise me at all to see Kitna outperform Favre this year. However, I still think the Packers finish ahead of the Lions.
I'm betting that Kitna outperforms Favre.

I like P-L's list, I see where he's coming from. Much makes good sense.

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2. Denver (9-6-1)

3. Oakland (5-10-1)
4. Kansas City (5-11)
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Although, this is what i more feel like. I counted everything down a few weeks ago, but didn't write down the w/l counter...

AFC EAST
New England Patriots
New York Jets
Buffalo Bills
Miami Dolphins

AFC WEST
San Diego Chargers
Kansas City Chiefs
Denver Broncos
Oakland Raiders

AFC NORTH
Baltimore Ravens
Pittsburgh Steelers
Cleveland Browns
Cincinnati Bengals

AFC SOUTH
Indianapolis Colts
Jacksonville Jaguars
Houston Texans
Tennessee Titans

NFC EAST
Dallas Cowboys
Philadelphia Eagles

Washington Redskins
New York Giants

NFC WEST
San Francisco 49ers
St. Louis Rams
Seattle Seahawks
Arizona Cardinals

NFC SOUTH
New Orleans Saints
Carolina Panthers
Atlanta Falcons
Tampa Bay Buccaneers

NFC NORTH
Chicago Bears
Green Bay Packers
Detroit Lions
Minnesota Vikings

The real noticable things are this:

The east is the Jets and Patriots to win. The jets will a better team than about everyone in the AFC except for the Broncos (among the other non-playoff winners), but will still eke them out with a better conference record for the WC. They also have a legit corner. That's why the jets will make it. Buffalo has a few years to go with introducing lynch to the world, and miami still has it's head between it's legs.

I, unlike many people, don't think the broncos have made enough strides to return to form like they did at the early part of the decade... or even like three years ago... SD is a lock, even though i really think they don't have any wide recievers (other than gates, davis doesn't count, as I don't think anyone thinks, V. Jackson? SCARY! Second tier corners won't have much problem shutting them up... but with LT, things are never alright.), and their defense is the same as last year (losing godfrey wasn't horrid, donnie edwards was a hit)... if they play to the level they did last year, they'll make the playoffs.

I will not say st. louis will make the playoffs... people comparing it to GB of years past, I say this, it's a different world from back then. The NFCW has some relatively tougher defenses than the NFCN did back then... Kitna will throw for more yards then Bulger. More touchdowns too... if it's based on pure offense... I can say the lions will score alot too. The Rams, like the Lions have poor defense. Bottom 16, and that will keep them out, their defense doesn't have any real anchor... I think they'll be the best of those all offense teams, no defense, just like last year. Carricker was an improvement, but it's not looking great.

I think the Jags will continue to improve, and assuming they don't suffer catastrophic losses in injuries like they did last year, they're a lock for at least the wild card in the AFC South, if not an outright beating of Indy. Indy's decline is going to be due to a loss of booger to an already shambaly run stopping unit... lack of cohesion will let teams run and run big on them. expect mjd and taylor to run for 400 yards on them (mild exaggeration)...
PGH's year isn't this year. It's next year. Mark my words. Cleveland will do better than Cincinatti. Carson Palmer will shed a tear or two. Cincy is right below the Rams in balance between offense and defense (meaning, the rams have the slight edge in defense... because honestly, what would you rather take? 85, T.J. and Palmer or Holt, Bruce, and Bulger? Yep. what i thought)

I hate the NFC east because I have a hard time banking on philly if mcnabb steps down again. This time he doesn't have garcia playing at the top of his game. Dallas is close, but Romo (who knows how he got in the pro bowl, is leading an average team. Yes. Average. Ok running game, ok passing game. Ok defense. That may be enough to win the NFC east. That's scary.

The Seahawks fall to the OK status too. After hutch left, the running game went downhill, sure, alexander was running on a gimp foot, but he isn't frank gore. 49ers will pretty much eke out everyone with a 9-7 record (followed by the rams also at 9-7, with a worse division record)... It's tight between all four teams. If Smith shows up, they'll pull away with their adequate (and young) defense, and good offensive weapons.

North is easy. 1) Bears, 2) GB, 3) Detroit, 4) Min. Why? Bears are the complete package this year. GB is balanced, but lacks the explosive offense, but doesn't play with the same defensive level of intensity. Detroit can score points, and on anemic offences that'll win them the battle. Minnesota is in a heap of trouble. No doubt.

The South, like the east gives me questions. I think harrington can do the job in atlanta, but I don't think that's going to be enough with a shoddy defense. Carolina isn't going to put a different team on the field, while they may have the ultimate deep threat reciever in smith, i don't think that will ever be enough without a moose to compliment him... Tampa bay... Gruden. Aw, who knows. The NFCS looks like NO's to lose, much like last year in the NFCN it was to the Bears.

In the end.
It'll be:
WC (Home in Caps, winner in ('s))
stl vs DAL (stl)
sf vs PHI (PHI)
jax vs SD (SD)
nyj vs IND (nyj)

DIV
stl vs CHI (CHI)
phi vs NO (NO)
nyj vs NE (NE)
SD vs bal (bal)

CON
no vs CHI (CHI)
NE vs bal (bal)

SB
bal vs chi (bal)
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I don't see Chicago as a strong enough team to make it back to the playoffs, let alone the 1 seed in the NFC. Lots of reasonable analysis, though.
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I don't see Chicago as a strong enough team to make it back to the playoffs, let alone the 1 seed in the NFC. Lots of reasonable analysis, though.
They're good enough to win the division but no way are they going to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl again. Philadelphia, Dallas, New Orleans, and Seattle are all teams I believe are better than the Bears
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They're good enough to win the division but no way are they going to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl again. Philadelphia, Dallas, New Orleans, and Seattle are all teams I believe are better than the Bears
The Bears appear weaker in most places than they were last year. I don't like Benson at all in their offense, and I don't see Grossman doing that well. Muhammed is aging, Berrian needs to develop, and I'm not terribly high on Greg Olsen this season. On defense, I'm concerned about their depth and push up front, and I feel like the loss of Ron Rivera will hurt them. Their LB's and DB's are very solid. Overall, I just see them as average. They have to play a first place schedule, and I think GB and Detroit are improved.
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The Bears appear weaker in most places than they were last year. I don't like Benson at all in their offense, and I don't see Grossman doing that well. Muhammed is aging, Berrian needs to develop, and I'm not terribly high on Greg Olsen this season. On defense, I'm concerned about their depth and push up front, and I feel like the loss of Ron Rivera will hurt them. Their LB's and DB's are very solid. Overall, I just see them as average. They have to play a first place schedule, and I think GB and Detroit are improved.
I think losing Rivera was the least of their concerns, Lovie is the architect of the system, and babich is more of a pawn to the Lovie-2 than anything else. Rivera was detracting from the system a little, including catastrophic defensive meltdowns in the playoffs.

Although I agree about the bears getting the first seed, i was shaking with whether or not NO could possible get a better record. Bears have probably one of the weaker schedules if anything? MIN, GB, DET 2 times each? that's at least 5/6... Oak, KC (W/WO LJ)... Seven rather easy wins.

The bears will probably go 10-6 at the least with maybe losses at SD, DAL, PHI, DEN, GB, and NO (the last two are after clinching the division at 10-4)... But, in the same regard, all of those are indeed possible wins for the bears, they don't looked overmatched, bzaza, i think most of your concerns, while valid, they have 4 quality starters in DT, probably the greatest 4-3 DLine depth in the League (after we took Walker from ya iggies (albiet maybe not the better run stopper, but clearly a presence in a gap shooting dline, and adams from the niners), a playing briggs and urlacher, a more improved hillenmeyer (and quality backup in jamar williams and okwo).

NO on the other hand, will maybe lose one at SEA, SF, JAX,CAR, PHI and IND... I think it's possible the game on NYE-E will probably be one of the biggest games, now that i think of it, because both teams are going to to be around 10-5 (I think NO has a good chance of beating CAR and PHI, but Carolina might be able to push one out against them... just as CHI might beat GB or PHI, DAL or DEN) It's close, and that end of season match up will either be a great game to detemine the home field advantage. NO also improved enough IMO to possibly take down Indy in a shootout much like cincy and SD was last year... With an alright defense, they'll look better than IND and drew brees will put up gaudy numbers to bush, meach, henderson, and colston... and deuce up the middle. mmm. it looks beautiful

GB is improved, granted, I concede they can take one from CHI, but Detroit?
Detroit vs Chicago matchup is interesting. Because you have to think, which is better? The bears defense or the lions offense? or, conversly, which is better, the bears offense or the lions defense. The first one will be solved by playing Nickel most the time with Mike Brown and Tillman covering CJ, Vasher on Williams and R. Manning on Furrey, it might just equal out there. With an absense of real running game (Tatum Bell or Kevin Jones), they're a sitting duck to Chicago's improved pass rushing and veteran DB's. If they can pull together a running game, which i don't see likely with their OLine, the game might be competitive. Backus is probably the only quality lineman on their team and woody should be playing better than he has. But if it never gets on the ground, no chance.

In 2005, they got to the playoffs with kyle orton, desmond clark, muhammed, Jones, and a bunch of rookie wideouts based on the play of their defense. If their defense is better than it was last year (which with all the returning starters, I don't see how it can be much worse)... This year they have 3rd year wideouts, who, like it or not, berrian developed last year from his first year into a deep threat, and without regression, he's still prime for 500 yards and 5 TD's, olson/clark for another 1000, muhammed for 700... davis, hester, bradley for 700 or so combined... I can only think that the bears WR's will hold with so much threat coming from all directions. It's the same reason why NE will have such a fantastic year for passing... Distraction, put the ball in hester's hands, you have an issue, focus on him, you'll be putting easy yards in berrians or mooses hands, along the sideline on corner routes... olsen, if he can catch the ball, will like it or not, at least force safeties to look at him before he pulls it through the seam.
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