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Old 08-15-2007, 12:06 AM    (permalink
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Two players who had their best years as Bengals already, sweet.

Blake along with Carl Pickens/Darnay Scott were actually fun to watch at times in the 90's... Gave me a reason to watch some games and was what really made me a fan. I watched Blake/Kordell play in the first game I ever went to and they sure put some air under the ball, especially Blake.
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Im 16, but I didnt start paying attention to football w/ the interest level that I have had the past few years until around 7th grade (made me 12-13). I had 8 years to watch him play, and I wouldnt have understood at the time what was going on if I did.
Well I understand your younger and have only Peyton to reference, but he's not the greatest QB ever. Without Johnny Unitas who knows where football would be today, especially the QB position. Then you add in Marino and Montana, what they could do in their day to opponents was just wow. Montana was just an artist in the West Coast Offense, and Marino was incredible. You knew Dan was passing and yet they still couldn't stop him, and he never had a legitimate rushing attack to take of the pressure. Peyton is definitely the cream of the crop from this era, but he also has been provided with excellent weapons and an offense tailored around him, much like Jim Kelly with the K-Gun offense.
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Meanwhile, in hockey the other night, the Washington Capitals' Eric Belanger gets hit with a stick, loses EIGHT teeth, has an instant root canal in the locker room, comes back out and PLAYS and never says boo.

So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!
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2 more bengals to go
I'll ruin the surprise, its Ken Anderson and Boomer Esiason. :D
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So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!
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93-Steve Beurline (LA Rams 1988-1989; Dallas Cowboys 1991-1992; Phoenix Cardinals 1993-1994; Jacksonville Jaguars 1995; Carolina Panthers 1996-2000; Dever Broncos 2001-2004)

Its hard to be a sucessful QB on an expansion team. Its harder to lead them to the playoffs and its harder to throw for 4,000 yards and 36 touchdowns as he did in 1999.

92-Drew Brees (San Diego Chargers 2001-2005; New Orleans 2006-Present)

Was almost a draft bust until 2004 when he would make the Pro Bowl and be named the NFL's comeback player of the year. Currently holds SD's highest career QB rating and future in New Orleans looks bright.

91-Vinny Testaverde (Tampa Bay Bucaneers 1987-1992; Cleveland Browns 1993-1995; Baltimore Ravens 1996-1997; New York Jets 1998-2003, 2005; Dallas Cowboys 2004; New England Patriots 2006-Present)

At 43 years young Vinny is still slinging the ol' pigskin with the Patriots. His long list of achievements is a tribute to his longevity and arguably the best QB in Ravens history. Also had sucess in New York, Cleveland and in a one year stint with Dallas. Ranks high in almost every major statistical category for QB's.
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Wow this list seems pretty good, seeing as how hard is it. There have been alot of qbs in the league, and alot were pretty dmn good... so its nice to see non-present qbs.. adds to the merit
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I'm as big of a football purist as anyone, and I think it's very very possible that Peyton go down as the best ever. Same for LT, although LT has a lot longer to go.
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I'll ruin the surprise, its Ken Anderson and Boomer Esiason. :D
no the correct answear is Akili Smith and Dave Klingler
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I'm as big of a football purist as anyone, and I think it's very very possible that Peyton go down as the best ever. Same for LT, although LT has a lot longer to go.
Can Peyton go down as one of the greats, yes. Is he there now, no. That's obvious but yet still needs to be said. He has an uncanny knack for not getting hurt and add that to his football intelligence on the field and when he does retire he will have a hell of an argument for the title for the best ever. Plus owning pretty much every major record won't hurt either.
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Meanwhile, in hockey the other night, the Washington Capitals' Eric Belanger gets hit with a stick, loses EIGHT teeth, has an instant root canal in the locker room, comes back out and PLAYS and never says boo.

So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!
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no the correct answear is Akili Smith and Dave Klingler
Thats not even funny as much as it is psychotic. Well done.
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Meanwhile, in hockey the other night, the Washington Capitals' Eric Belanger gets hit with a stick, loses EIGHT teeth, has an instant root canal in the locker room, comes back out and PLAYS and never says boo.

So new rule, NBA: Unless you have a root canal at halftime, SHUT UP AND PLAY!
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Just to fill in some time in between now and when i feel like doing another one
Best Running QB's(who could pass too):

1-Randall Cunningham
2-Mike Vick
3-Steve Young
4-John Elway
5-Fran Tarkenton
6-Otto Graham
7-Steve McNair
8-Donovan McNabb
9-Kordell Stewart
10-Steve Grogan

Best QB's by decade
50's: Otto Graham, Johnny Unitas, Sammy Baugh
60's: Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr, Fran Tarkenton
70's: Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw, Fran Tarkenton
80's: Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts
90's: John Elway, Brett Favre, Troy Aikman
00's: Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Brett Favre (Could be replaced by Brees or Palmer soon)
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Just to fill in some time in between now and when i feel like doing another one
Best Running QB's(who could pass too):

1-Randall Cunningham
2-Mike Vick
3-Steve Young
4-John Elway
5-Fran Tarkenton
6-Otto Graham
7-Steve McNair
8-Donovan McNabb
9-Kordell Stewart
10-Steve Grogan
This list doesn't make a lot sense. No way Vick should be above most of these guys if passing is seriously factored in. And if the list is mostly based on running ability then Vick should be #1. Cunningham was a much better QB, but I think Vick has the slight edge in running ability.
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90-Trent Green (San Diego Chargers 1993-1994; Washington Redskins 1995-1998; St.Louis Rams 1999-2000; Kansas City Chiefs 2001-2006; Miami Dolphins 2007-Present)

What was once a promising NFL career for a long time journeyman was about to be ended or so it seemed in 1999. In 2003 though Trent had a late breakout year with the Kansas City Chiefs throwing for over 4,000 yards (an achievement he would do 2 more times over the next two years) Green suffered another majory injury in 2006 and will play for the Dolphins this year. If he finds sucess again expect him to jump up this list.

89-Doug Williams (Tampa Bay 1978-1982; Washington 1986-1989)

His career achievements arent as impressive as the guys before him, but becoming the first African-American to win the Super Bowl, IMO, could help lay to rest any remaining racisim in football. Not only that but his Super Bowl perferomence ranks as one of the greatest for a quarterback.

88-Jeff Garcia (San Francisco 1999-2003; Cleveland 2004; Detroit 2005; Philadelphia 2006; Tampa Bay 2007-Present)

Despite what TO says, Garcia is a great QB. The three-time Pro Bowler had great sucess in San Fran including a controversial comeback over the New York Giants. He would spend two horrendous seasons in Detroit and Cleveland, but got his groove back in Philly going 5-1 in 6 starts. Garcia will look to continue his sucess in Tampa Bay this season.
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Just to fill in some time in between now and when i feel like doing another one
Best Running QB's(who could pass too):

1-Randall Cunningham
2-Mike Vick
3-Steve Young
4-John Elway
5-Fran Tarkenton
6-Otto Graham
7-Steve McNair
8-Donovan McNabb
9-Kordell Stewart
10-Steve Grogan

Best QB's by decade
50's: Otto Graham, Johnny Unitas, Sammy Baugh
60's: Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr, Fran Tarkenton
70's: Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw, Fran Tarkenton
80's: Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts
90's: John Elway, Brett Favre, Troy Aikman
00's: Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Brett Favre (Could be replaced by Brees or Palmer soon)
Just to point out, when you list the best QB's of the 90's, Steve Young makes the list before Troy Aikman....and its not even close.
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Just to point out, when you list the best QB's of the 90's, Steve Young makes the list before Troy Aikman....and its not even close.
that makes sense, it was late when i was making that
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87-Ed Brown (Chicago 1954-1961; Pittsburgh 1962-1965; Baltimore Colts 1965)

Coming into the list I didnt much about Brown, aside from playing with the Bears, but it didnt take long for me to realize that he wasnt half bad. He was originally drafted by the Bears in '52, but was also drafted by the Marines. In '54 he returned to football where he would beat out George Blanda for the starting job and the lead Da Bears to an 8-4 record. In '56 he lead the league in passing and the Bears to a Championship game against the New York Giants, where they were blown out. Brown never fully recorved from the loss and would get some of his ability back when he went to Pittsburgh. Brown was known at the time as when of the best downfield passers.
R.I.P. Ed Brown October 26, 1928-August 2nd 2007

86-Babe Parilli (Green Bay 1952-1953, 1957-1958; Cleveland 1956; Oakland 1960; Boston 1961-1967; New York Jets 1968-1969)

He was a journeyman who had played for two different leagues (NFL,CFL) before finding sucess in the AFL, where he was a 3-time all-star. At the end of his career he had thrown for over 25,000 yards and 200 touchdowns (Pretty good for a QB in the 60's) In 1964 he would throw for over 3500 yards and 31 touchdowns. Unfortunetly he never won a championship as a starter, but would backup Joe Namath in Super Bowl III.
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I'll ruin the surprise, its Ken Anderson and Boomer Esiason. :D
Could Anderson break the top 10? I've seen him on other top 10's. Honestly I don't have an opinion on him considering I've never seen him play a game, all I know is the older Bengal fans really like him.
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Could Anderson break the top 10? I've seen him on other top 10's. Honestly I don't have an opinion on him considering I've never seen him play a game, all I know is the older Bengal fans really like him.
In a recent list of the 100 top QB's, which inspired me to make this one, Ken was ranked in the top 10, a spot above Favre

Im gonna try and whip out like 20 or so tommrow
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How exactly is a 15 year old compiling a "101 Greatest NFL QB's" list?
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How exactly is a 15 year old compiling a "101 Greatest NFL QB's" list?
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perhaps he has good knowledge of NFL history.
Correct, or history when it comes to QB's
I was the first 3 year old to acknowledge the exsitence of Johnny U
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Even if I end up wholly disagreeing, I have to give you props for even trying this. I know I couldn't make a list of 100 anythings without having all of them being "Denver Broncos" or Jay Cutler.
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85-Frank Reich (Buffalo 1985-1994; Carolina 1995; New York Jets 1996; Detroit 1997-1998)

The greatest backup in the history of the NFL. His entire career can be defined by the greatest comeback in NFL history, along with a few minors ones in which he came in for Kelly.
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He may know more than you.
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Craig Krenzel going to be on this list? If not, this is the worst complilation I have ever seen
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