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Old 09-16-2007, 09:57 PM    (permalink
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Sean Payton is a moron:

Deuce McAllister - 10 carries, 49 yards
Reggie Bush - 10 carries, 27 yards

Why is Bush getting as many carries as McAllister? He even was in the game on the goal-line and was stuffed. Bush has done nothing to warrant being used more than McAllister. He is only a few years removed from a 2,000 total yard season. Maybe I'm jaded because I am a McAllister fantasy owner, but it defies all common sense.
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Why is Payton running a toss to Duece on a 3rd and 2 against the Tampa Bay defense? Someone please explain that to me, I still haven't understood that.
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I think Sean Payton's genius tag needs to be rescinded. He was demoted twice from being the play-caller and I can see why.
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He made Cato June look competent, that's unforgivable.
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Sean Payton is a moron:

Deuce McAllister - 10 carries, 49 yards
Reggie Bush - 10 carries, 27 yards

Why is Bush getting as many carries as McAllister? He even was in the game on the goal-line and was stuffed. Bush has done nothing to warrant being used more than McAllister. He is only a few years removed from a 2,000 total yard season. Maybe I'm jaded because I am a McAllister fantasy owner, but it defies all common sense.
Not defending him or anything, but the reason Deuce wasn't in the game very much was because he was poked in the eye pretty viciously, and it swelled up so bad he could barely see out if it clearly for a period of time. He also lost a fumble, and had a near fumble on another play.

The big picture is no one on this team is making things happen, and it goes way beyond one particular aspect. It's hard to single out just one thing when there's so many problems It's the play calling, the 3rd down execution, the poor QB decision making, the inability to hold blocks, poor ball security, the wide receivers can't hold onto the few passes that do hit them in the hands, teams are just going to Double Colston all game and force someone else to step up, and nobody is doing that.

Just so many problems on this team right now and that just covers the Offensive side of the ball..
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And can we please put the kobosh on putting Reggie Bush under the blame microscope? He's playing hard, it's not his fault the playcalling and execution (particularly up front) is severely lacking. For all the grief he gets about not being an interior runner, he takes his shots from defenders and isn't, you know, shying away from contact or coughing up the ball and so on.

Edit: I just noticed Bush fumbled twice today, lost one and recovered the other. Hmm, what's the story on this?

I was watching the Colts/Titans first and foremost, but I turned in to the game (and other games, hooray Sunday Ticket) during commercials. In the fourth quarter, I saw Brees not only completely not see an open receiver but throw the ball further downfield and miss Lance Moore. I don't know what's going on, but the Saints need to get home and regroup.

The Titans aren't push-overs, but playing at home for MNF may be just what the Saints need right now.
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Not defending him or anything, but the reason Deuce wasn't in the game very much was because he was poked in the eye pretty viciously, and it swelled up so bad he could barely see out if it clearly for a period of time. He also lost a fumble, and had a near fumble on another play.
I didn't know that.
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And can we please put the kobosh on putting Reggie Bush under the blame microscope? He's playing hard, it's not his fault the playcalling and execution (particularly up front) is severely lacking. For all the grief he gets about not being an interior runner, he takes his shots from defenders and isn't, you know, shying away from contact or coughing up the ball and so on.

I was watching the Colts/Titans first and foremost, but I turned in to the game (and other games, hooray Sunday Ticket) during commercials. In the fourth quarter, I saw Brees not only completely not see an open receiver but throw the ball further downfield and miss Lance Moore. I don't know what's going on, but the Saints need to get home and regroup.

The Titans aren't push-overs, but playing at home for MNF may be just what the Saints need right now.
This next stretch of games is going to be one of the biggest milestone tests for Sean Payton. It's really a gut check time right now which will push a Coach's ability. This is the biggest adversity we've ever faced as a team, we had rough stretches last season but nothing this bad.

As of today there are only 4 teams in the NFC that are 2-0. (Cowboys, Packers, Lions, and 49ers) So it's not impossible to bounce back from this horrendous start, but Payton and this coaching staff have to do something to re-instill some confidence and get the players to play with some emotion. Payton's coaching ability has been called into question, and now it's time to see how he responds.
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He made Cato June look competent, that's unforgivable.
Boo, Cato June rules. :D
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And can we please put the kobosh on putting Reggie Bush under the blame microscope? He's playing hard, it's not his fault the playcalling and execution (particularly up front) is severely lacking. For all the grief he gets about not being an interior runner, he takes his shots from defenders and isn't, you know, shying away from contact or coughing up the ball and so on.

Edit: I just noticed Bush fumbled twice today, lost one and recovered the other. Hmm, what's the story on this?

I like what Deion Sanders and Tom Jackson said, I will paraphrase both:

Deion Sanders said: 'It's like serving the desert before the entree. That's what Payton is doing by using Bush before McAllister. Reggie is a role player.'

Jackson said: 'You cannot dance in this league, (referring to Bush) period. The Saints go as McAllister goes and they need to give him twenty, twenty five carries.'

The Saints are 0-4 when McAllister gets this few of carries. Like I said last year, McAllister is the main cog in that offensive machine and they haven't gotten him on track.
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I like what Deion Sanders and Tom Jackson said, I will paraphrase both:

Deion Sanders said: 'It's like serving the desert before the entree. That's what Payton is doing by using Bush before McAllister. Reggie is a role player.'

Jackson said: 'You cannot dance in this league, (referring to Bush) period. The Saints go as McAllister goes and they need to give him twenty, twenty five carries.'
With Devery Henderson not living up to being a short-term WR2 at the moment, and Marques Colston and Eric Johnson not exactly burners, I'm surprised the Saints don't pass the ball to Bush more than they are instead of giving him 10 carries or so. Especially against a Tampa 2 defense, which is specifically (and successfully thus far) trying to take away the plays of 20-plus yards, go to checkdowns to methodically move the ball down the field.

Granted, there was the matter of Duece getting seriously poked in the eye and needing to get off the field this past Sunday. McAllister will actually wear a visor this Monday, I read, and didn't seem enthused about it.

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Problem is, I don't know if McAllister can get back on track against a Titans' defensive line that is playing very well against the run right now, with a Saints' offensive line that isn't playing as well.

The playcalling/gameplan for the Saints hasn't been up to par, but the offensive line play needs to improve too.
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He made Cato June look competent, that's unforgivable.
Cato June is more than competent in our defense. He's still not very physical but
we put him in position to make plays. He has a lot of responsibility in zone coverage and secondary fill on run support. That means he will be the beneficiary of offensive mistakes more often that not. He has the speed to take advantage when that does occur.
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Cato June is more than competent in our defense. He's still not very physical but
we put him in position to make plays. He has a lot of responsibility in zone coverage and secondary fill on run support. That means he will be the beneficiary of offensive mistakes more often that not. He has the speed to take advantage when that does occur.
And he has actually looked quite effective in making tackles which has been deemed as one of his primary if not the primary weakness.
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And he has actually looked quite effective in making tackles which has been deemed as one of his primary if not the primary weakness.
He's always been a tackling machine it's just people question the quality of his tackles as he doesn't drive guys backward very often.
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He's always been a tackling machine it's just people question the quality of his tackles as he doesn't drive guys backward very often.
Very true. A change of scenery has worked quite well for Cato. He brings an intensity to the defense which a guy like Ryan Nece was lacking.
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Very true. A change of scenery has worked quite well for Cato. He brings an intensity to the defense which a guy like Ryan Nece was lacking.
Nece just didn't make plays, plain and simple. He wasn't bad, but the Tampa Bay Buccaneers look for more than mediocrity from their defense. Too bad Sabby Piscitelli is still on the roster...
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That sounds awful...you guys are Sabby fans? I really thought he could be a good big hittin type safety...is he not playing up to his sick athletic numbers? Also I understand Safety is a pretty rough spot for a rookie to come in and make the switch on anyway.

As far as this Falcons defense...it's special. We haven't been aggressive because we haven't been in position to gamble and force mistakes, we have to just take them as they come to us, which isn't going to happen too often against teams like Minnesota when all they were going to do was hand off, and Jax who was going to do the same thing. We know that Carolina CAN run, but I think they're going to try to keep putting it up in the air with **** while he's hot, and I think against this secondary it could get him in some DEEP stuff...Hall MAY be overhyped because he was so young when he got the hype and he's still what 21? 22? I mean that's just sick...he's still a top 5 corner, and Chris Houston's press coverage is just spectacular...so stacking him against the 2nd receiver could cause problems in timing...then again Delhomme is a vet and can make a rookie look silly if he gets his eyes in the backfield. But if this defense gets a spot to be aggressive and we can bring the blitz with Boley / Williams...that's a scary amount of speed coming after QBs and could cause some chuck and duck if we could get enough penetration from our front 4.
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That sounds awful...you guys are Sabby fans? I really thought he could be a good big hittin type safety...is he not playing up to his sick athletic numbers? Also I understand Safety is a pretty rough spot for a rookie to come in and make the switch on anyway.
I am definitely a Sabby fan but at this moment in time he has done nothing to show me that he is the future of this organisation at SS. Jermaine Phillips seems reinvigorated this season and is playing much better than he has in recent seasons. Whether he can continue this is another matter.

I still think Sabby has the potential to be a starter for the Buc's but we may not find out what we have until well into the season or next season. Until then, the verdict on him is out.
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The Bucs certainly helped themselves drafting Tanard Jackson, in any csae.
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The Bucs certainly helped themselves drafting Tanard Jackson, in any csae.
As I knew they would. I wasn't sure if Tanard was good enough in run support to play safety, but I always knew he had a knack for zone coverage, great instincts, and great closing burst when the ball's in front of him.

Sabby, on the other hand, lacks the talent. He's above-average in most aspects
of the safety position, but he doesn't stand out at anything nor does he play consistently. He just seems lost on the field at times, and I never thought we needed to draft a SS anyway. Phillips is a good tackler and hitter. His only weakness is coverage (to a small extent), but he doesn't have enough coverage responsibility to make that a serious factor.
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What I don't get is, why did we draft Jackson to play safety? We have more issues at corner, IMO, and that was his college position.
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What I don't get is, why did we draft Jackson to play safety? We have more issues at corner, IMO, and that was his college position.
Trust me, Will Allen is a bigger issue than CB. We made the right decision. Sabby was a complete waste of a pick, though. Even if he is a capable safety he won't see the field until Phillips retires.
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Trust me, Will Allen is a bigger issue than CB. We made the right decision. Sabby was a complete waste of a pick, though. Even if he is a capable safety he won't see the field until Phillips retires.
I guess the Buccaneers drafted him because they thought Jermaine would continue with his erratic, and often poor, play. Props to Jermaine for showing up this year.
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I guess the Buccaneers drafted him because they thought Jermaine would continue with his erratic, and often poor, play. Props to Jermaine for showing up this year.
I never thought he was that bad. I don't think anyone really thought he needed to be upgraded.
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