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Old 09-11-2007, 06:26 PM    (permalink
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lorenzen most likely wont play. Eli isnt out a month, he's day to day. And you guys had almost no ground game against Philly. They have better run D than us, but you guys could barely move the ball.

i admit, I'm afraid of Driver and Jennings, but i still think that neither of your safeties can cover Shockey.
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Should be a fun match-up (Shockey-Hawk) to watch.
Brady Poppinga usually covers the TE for you guys.
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Should be a fun match-up (Shockey-Hawk) to watch.
yes very fun indeed. the battle of guys with long flowing blonde hair lol

im not sure how much he'll be on shockey, dont know you're D gameplan, but i think when shockey's on safeties, he should win that matchup.

shockey v hawk will be interesting and no doubt physical
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lorenzen most likely wont play. Eli isnt out a month, he's day to day. And you guys had almost no ground game against Philly. They have better run D than us, but you guys could barely move the ball.

i admit, I'm afraid of Driver and Jennings, but i still think that neither of your safeties can cover Shockey.
Like i said earlier, we had Morency injured. He will definitly help. Unless he is in pain, which is possible
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yes very fun indeed. the battle of guys with long flowing blonde hair lol

im not sure how much he'll be on shockey, dont know you're D gameplan, but i think when shockey's on safeties, he should win that matchup.

shockey v hawk will be interesting and no doubt physical
This should be Nick Collins breakout year, if he lives up to his potential then he should keep shockey in check. Also Barnett is a good cover LB.

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yeah it should be him, he is the SLB which is unfortunate cuz he sucks at coverage
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the Giants are weak and with all the injuries with or without Manning there weaker and I expect the Packers to win by atleast 7 easily probably alot more.
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just saying, MANY people said the giants were gonna get destroyed by Dallas, and that was a close game.

no offense, but you guys did not look too good on O against the iggles. The giants should be looking for pass most of the time. Eli isnt OUT like many have stated, and very well may play.

just dont get your hopes up, and dont feel like the giants are just going to roll over and be an easy win...
I expected it to be an easy win before any of those guys got hurt. If we lost with them in I'd be dissapointed. If we lose with them not playing I might shoot myself. Well ok, I'm not going to go that far but I will go crazy, I'll even wear a Giants sig for a month if we lose.
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I realized right after I posted that Brady has the unfortunate duty of covering the TEs. He can jam alright, but he can't run with them. AJ is normally on the RB.

I do know, however, that I have seen AJ in man coverage with a TE in the past. He got an INT vs. the 49ers last year in coverage against Vernon Davis. ***I just watched the highlight tape and the Pack was in the dime package with one LB. There goes my wishful thinking...
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yeah it should be him, he is the SLB which is unfortunate cuz he sucks at coverage
He's not that bad. He was absolutely terrible week one vs the Bears last year, but he has improved a lot. Covering top TEs like Shockey and Gates later in the year I'm sure he'll struggle with, but he does a decent job against most. I would expect us to give him help in those weeks though, and putting Hawk on them could even be a possibility.
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the giants will, for right now, be without only Jacobs. Osi, Eli and Madison are up in the air, with Eli more towards probable. i think the giants have more talent than green bay. no offense, but again, your O didnt look good against Philly. granted, you were without jennings and morency, but i still dont understand how the majority of you think this will be an easy win for you. the giants were supposed to get killed by dallas, yet lost by only 10 in a close game...
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Matchup (This was made when Eli was going to be out and assumes Morency and Jennings will be back)
QB-GB
RB-GB(if morency is back)
WR-Tie
TE-NYG
OL-Tie(Based on last week, we looked pretty bad)

DL-GB
LB-GB
DB-GB

Yalls offense may be better than ours but not by much.

On defense we have on of the strongest DT rotations in the league (Pickett,Cole,Williams,Jolly and on some ocasions Jenkins)

At DE we have Kampman who as of right now is better than Strahan and Osi. Then we have Jenkins and KGB switching in at DE. BTW if you saw the packer game you wouldve noticed the line play better as the game went on. At LB, Hawk and Barnett could make the pro bowl any given year. Poppinga is an average starter. At CB Al Harris and Charles Woodson have ability that falls in between Henry's and Newman's ability. In other words Eli or the Hefty Lefty will be facing two solid #1 CB's. Not a shaky #1 like Henry. At S the potential is there. Collins has showed it and Bigby worked hard thi offseason to gain the starting job.
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the giants will, for right now, be without only Jacobs. Osi, Eli and Madison are up in the air, with Eli more towards probable. i think the giants have more talent than green bay. no offense, but again, your O didnt look good against Philly. granted, you were without jennings and morency, but i still dont understand how the majority of you think this will be an easy win for you. the giants were supposed to get killed by dallas, yet lost by only 10 in a close game...
Philadelphia has a good front seven and when Favre doesn't have his second favorite target it's tough to have a successful passing game against them
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I find it interesting that the Giants are saying Eli could play, while other reports are that he's out for at least the next few games.

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Schefter reports that Manning could return as early as Sept. 30, when the Giants host the Eagles.

The Giants, however, would not confirm the shoulder separation. Manning called his injury a bruised shoulder. Giants coach Tom Coughlin said it was sprained. The Giants public relations staff labeled it a bruised acromioclavicular (AC) joint.

Coughlin said in his Monday press conference that Manning is day-to-day.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true
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seriously, i will murderdeathkill the next person to say this game will be an easy win. y'all are effing up the chi.
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If Manning plays this week and reinjures his shoulder it could be devastating IMO
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Things im looking for is Jenning to come back healty

offensive line to open up some holes so Jackson can run thru early to get him pump up

looking for a good run game so Favre can use play action

looking for nick collins not to drop any easy pick lol :)

hoping Morency to come back to give Jackson so rest
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I'm so depressed the Packers don't get to destroy Mannings' ******** sissy face. I'd love to see him looking like a little slow boy who just dumped his drawers without a diaper for the first time after Kampman sacked his ass. Oh, how I dislike the Mannings.

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Far less people are calling it an easy win then it's being made out to be. If they don't specifically say it then they're saying the Packers SHOULD win this game. And that's the position I take.

I expect AJ Hawk to be a huge key to this game. Especially if the Giants backfield is depleted he will blitz heavily, he's the best blitzer we have. I think all three linebackers will be getting shots at Shockey and probably whoever does best will finish the game covering him.

The thing with Hawk and Barnett is they're too good as all around players to have one of them covering Shockey the whole game. Whereas Brady Poppinga is a solid all around player and much improved in coverage but not as much of a key player as the other two so they are put in more positions to make plays.

Shockey will definitely be the key on the Giants offense and if we have Morency and Jennings back we SHOULD score 20 points at the very least.
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Although Manning is reportedly taking snaps in practice I find it hard to believe that the Giants would risk the future of their franchise on a game in Week 2; if he's not 100%, or darn near, it would be stupid for the Giants to risk his health for one game.
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did anyone else watch the game between the Giants and Cowboys on sunday night? everytime they showed Eli he was walking around with his mouth open and the dumbest look on his face, for whatever reason it really annoyed me.
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did anyone else watch the game between the Giants and Cowboys on sunday night? everytime they showed Eli he was walking around with his mouth open and the dumbest look on his face, for whatever reason it really annoyed me.
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It's like you two were setting that up :)
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Eh, I haven't seen this kind of confidence from Packers fans since cheese heads went on sale at Lambeau Field.

Heh, seriously though. Hasn't anyone ever learned that there is no such thing as an easy win in the NFL? Apparently not.

If Eli doesn't start, I don't think that's game over for us. Granted, I'd be a lot more confident in our team if he was in the game, as opposed to Jared - but I think our offensive line will give him some time to set up and throw the ball down field.

I think Ward is an overlooked RB, and Droughns had been playing fullback quite effectively. Plus our offensive line is easily one of the best run blocking lines in the NFL.

Either way, despite the experts saying this is an easy win, I suspect it could be pretty competitive.

Best of luck to you guys though.
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Yall went up against a depleted Dallas defense, and gave up 40+ points. Our offense isnt as good as Dallas' but yall have no defense.
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Yall went up against a depleted Dallas defense, and gave up 40+ points. Our offense isnt as good as Dallas' but yall have no defense.
but we were supposed to get demolished by Dallas, and it was one helluva game.

i'm surprised in this confidence, as honestly, at the beginning of the year, i had this game pinned for an "easy" win for us. the injuries complicate it but still...
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