Gameday Thread - Page 6

TitanHope · 11-19-2007, 11:06 PM

3rd QTR Negatives

Calvin Lowry - Gave up a TD by going for the PD instead of the tackle.

Bo Scaife - Dropped pass that would have been a big gain.

Officials - Sucked major ass this game.

Chris Davis - Muffed another punt! Luckily we recovered it, but still. He shouldn't return another punt again.

Safeties - Injuries to both Hope and Griffin. Thankfully, they weren't serious.

Brandon Jones - Fumble, but even though Amano recovered it, we lost the 5+ yard game Jones would have had and we went back to the LOS.

4th QTR Negatives

Michael Griffin - Slipped and fell on his butt, which is why Andre Hall was able to run for the TD. Reynaldo Hill also whiffed on the tackle.

Justin Gage - Dropped a pass for a 1st Down.

Ben Troupe - Caught a kick return for whatever reason and tried to return it, and didn't do sqaut with it.

Daniel Loper - Personal foul on a kick off/return.

Donnie Nickey - Personal foul on a kick off/return.

Michael Roos - Gave up a sack, which ended in a loss of 17 YDS.

Eric Moulds - Dropped pass.

Vince Young - INT in Denver territory.

Vince Young - INT in Denver territory.

Ewing · 11-19-2007, 11:06 PM

That was the single worst prefromance by a group of receivers I've seen in my entire football viewing life. I counted at least five drops and at least two of them would have resulted in points. That is inex-****ing-cusable. All of them, even Bo Scaife, should be running laps around the stadium.

Pit Bull #53 · 11-19-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanHope

Michael Roos - Gave up a sack, which ended in a loss of 17 YDS.

I didn't get to rewatch that play, but when it happened I was almost positive that was supposed to be a screen pass to Scaife.

TitanHope · 11-19-2007, 11:16 PM

I counted 6 total drops.

Brandon Jones dropped a perfect deep ball, and probably would have gone all the way or at least get downed in field goal range. That cost us points.

Justin Gage dropped a 1st Down pass, and though it was thrown at bit behing him, he had his hands on it. That would have continued a drive, but instead we punted and it was returned for a TD.

Roydell Williams dropped a pass at the end of the 1st Half, and it would have at least given us a 1st and Goal. That cost us points.

Bo Scaife dropped a wide open pass that would have likely been a 30+ yard gain.

Justin Gage dropped another pass that would have given us a 1st Down.

And Eric Mould also dropped a pass, but I forget how critical it was.

6 Total drops, and 2 cost us points and would have been game changers. Pathetic.

Pit Bull #53 · 11-19-2007, 11:18 PM

On the Jones drop, he was about to get creamed by the safety. The only way he scores is if he makes that guy miss, and since he was in a vulnerable position, I think he would have gotten smashed.

TitanHope · 11-19-2007, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pit Bull #53

I didn't get to rewatch that play, but when it happened I was almost positive that was supposed to be a screen pass to Scaife.

I don't think so. Roos definitely got beat inside by Dumerville, and if it was a screen pass it took a long time to develop. I saw it live, then a replay of it and thats what I gathered from it. If you can rewatch it, I'd like to know what exactly happened.

TitanHope · 11-19-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pit Bull #53

On the Jones drop, he was about to get creamed by the safety. The only way he scores is if he makes that guy miss, and since he was in a vulnerable position, I think he would have gotten smashed.

That makes little difference. If thats the case, he's either a soft wussy and didn't want to get hit, or he lacked concentration and simply dropped it. He may have gotten hit by a safety, but thats his job and why he gets paid hundred of thousands of dollars. It may not have ended in a touchdown, but it would have been a huge gain, a confidence booster, and a momentum changer.

Pit Bull #53 · 11-19-2007, 11:26 PM

I thought the biggest play in the game was LardAss's fumble.

TitanHope · 11-19-2007, 11:32 PM

It was definitely huge. You just can't fumble in the opposing team's territory. That cost us points too. I feel so bad for Vince...

Ewing · 11-20-2007, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TitanHope

I counted 6 total drops.

Brandon Jones dropped a perfect deep ball, and probably would have gone all the way or at least get downed in field goal range. That cost us points.

Justin Gage dropped a 1st Down pass, and though it was thrown at bit behing him, he had his hands on it. That would have continued a drive, but instead we punted and it was returned for a TD.

Roydell Williams dropped a pass at the end of the 1st Half, and it would have at least given us a 1st and Goal. That cost us points.

Bo Scaife dropped a wide open pass that would have likely been a 30+ yard gain.

Justin Gage dropped another pass that would have given us a 1st Down.

And Eric Mould also dropped a pass, but I forget how critical it was.

6 Total drops, and 2 cost us points and would have been game changers. Pathetic.

1st Round: DeSean Jackson
2nd Round: Limas Sweed/James Hardy
3rd Round: Earl Bennett

How's that sound?

TitanHope · 11-20-2007, 08:48 AM

Well, we'll finish well enough to not be able to draft Jackson (Unless we bomb and lose out). Hardy won't be there in the 2nd, but Sweed might. I dunno if Earl Bennett will declare, and if he does he's at least a 2nd RD pick.

1st RD: Malcolm Kelly/James Hardy
2nd RD: Martin Rucker
3rd RD: Dre Moore/Red Bryant (Trade up possibly for these 1 of these 2, so we can stop the ******* run.)

Cashmoney · 11-20-2007, 01:00 PM

its obvious WR and DT are our two biggest needs, DT is still a major need even if we re-sign haynesworth because he's gonna get hurt every year guaranteed. Im thinking at this point it's more like:

1) Malcolm Kelly, Mario Manningham, or James Hardy
2) Dre Moore, Frank Okam, or Fili Moala, Earl Bennett
3) Martin Rucker, John Carlson, Fred Davis, Best CB available or maybe even Jonathan Goff
3)

TitanHope · 11-20-2007, 04:43 PM

Not to mention, Tony Brown is great in rotation and is a solid starter...when he's beside Albert Haynesworth. Brown is probably borderline 300 lbs, and is a pass rushing DT. Team him up with Randy Starks and Demetri Veal, two other DT's in the pass rushing mold, and we'll get run on. Veal was a DE in Denver, and is probably around 290. Starks is probably the biggest of the 3. Reinfeldt really, really screwed up by not getting Grady Jackson. Demetri Veal over Grady Jackson when its apparent we need a run stuffer? C'mon...

This loss started at the top, and ended at the bottom. It's a shame.

Geo · 11-20-2007, 04:45 PM

I was very impressed with Vince Young last night, in his progression as a passer. He was crisp for most of the night, delivering perfect spirals to tight windows where only his receivers could catch them, and he was using his legs to move around and deliver the ball. In addition, he used his legs and speed to carry the ball and move the chains when there wasn't anything there. As I said, I was quite impressed.

Obviously, the receiving staff let him down something fierce by the many drops. It's a tough pickle to be in, as you want to draft a young stud receiver to pair with Young for the next ten years or so, but wide receiver is a position that takes a few years to develop and fully contribute at your talent. The Titans need a veteran really, but how hard is it to find and how much does it cost to find a legit veteran #1 to lead a young receiving core like the Titans have. We haven't seen the best the current Titans receivers have to offer, these guys are all so young other than Eric Moulds whose best days are behind him.

TitanHope · 11-20-2007, 05:59 PM

Thanks for the words, Geo.

The problem with the WR's in their consistency. And its the same thing with Young. You can't really guage how well the WR's are playing when Vince is playing bad, and he has been bad this season. They are young, so they have more time, but they had a chance to prove people wrong that Vince needs better weapons and in the end justified that claim.

I agree with you on the vet, but I also believe a WR early is needed. A very polished WR who won't take terribly long to develop. And by the time a WR is drafted, Vince Young will be going into his third year and should have improved more. Hopefully he'll be a polished enough passer to help an inexperienced receiver out. Then the vet will also be there to help out, and our current WR's can play Slot.

Who's my #1 FA WR on my wishlist? D.J. Hackett.

Pit Bull #53 · 11-20-2007, 10:05 PM

You can cross off any giant DT off your wishlist unless he has quickness and really good movement skills. We're not gonna get a fat immovable DT. Washburn doesn't want that at all...we're not a 2 gap team.

And I want Kelly because he has great hands.

Ewing · 11-21-2007, 12:33 AM

Maybe we could try and trade our first round pick for a stud receiver.

stephenson86 · 11-21-2007, 02:49 PM

randy moss pleaseeeeeeeeee

TitanHope · 11-25-2007, 03:25 PM

That was absolutely horrific. Jim Schwartz should be on the hot seat.

Geo · 11-25-2007, 03:33 PM

I know Haynesworth was playing at a Pro Bowl/All-Pro level, but wow. The Titans defense really dropped off for these two games, granted they had to play two road games in the span of 7 games, but the defense played far better than this.

The Titans now play two consecutive home games, against the Houston Texans (5-6) and the San Diego Chargers (6-5 or 5-6 after today). They need to win both and work from there to get back near the front of the playoff race.

TitanHope · 11-25-2007, 04:09 PM

I think its a known fact among Titans fans that this really isn't supposed to be our year to make a playoff run. Frankly, we're just along for the ride. Next season is when we're supposed to make noise.

Nevertheless, the past 3 games have been pathetic for the defense. Jim Schwartz should be worried. His defense was ranked 32nd last season, and without Haynesworth, his DEF looks just as bad. To my knowledge, his scheme is to get the 4 DLinemen to get pressure on their own and for the LB's and DB's to cover. Well, without Haynesworth, the front 4 can't get pressure so the QB just picks us apart. Does he blitz? Nope. He'll occasionally send in a CB blitz, but thats really it. So our secondary gets carved up, but its their fault too. Finnegan is a bit overrated by Titans fans, and Harper gives too much of a cushion. Hope's been injured twice in the past two games, and Griffin is a rookie and it shows.

Then, our DLine can't stop the run and gets pushed around by the opposing team's OLine. I still think Reinfeldt screwed us when he didn't sign Grady Jackson. I know Pit Bull says a "big body" doesn't fit our scheme, but our scheme isn't working. 2 pass rushing DT's are not going to stop the run, but unfortunately, they're all we have to put out there.

If Haynesworth isn't made the highest paid defensive player this offseason, I'll be ticked. Contract season or not. If Haynesworth is in the line up, we're one of the best defenses in the league. If he's not, we're back at the bottom.

Ewing · 11-25-2007, 04:15 PM

God damn son of a ***** that ****ing sucked. Time to can Jim Schwartz. No way does the abscence of one guy make your defense that bad. And that one guy better get a massive deal from us.

TitanHope · 11-25-2007, 04:28 PM

Not to mention, the only receiver worth retaining is Justin Gage. It seems that him and Young are confortable with each other. Roydell Williams can't run routes well, and Brandon Jones is injury prone and unreliable. Moulds will be gone after this season anyway. Chris Davis could be a solid slot guy, and Paul Williams needs more work. Scaife is a good #2 TE and can play the H-Back role, but thats it and he's not reliable either. Troupe is amazing...on Madden.

Lets be real. The defense sucked today, but the offense was only able to put up 6 points against one of the worst defenses in the league.

Cashmoney · 11-26-2007, 02:48 AM

pur defense is offensive. and me, titanhope, pitbull, ewing, and stephonson couldve gone out there and put up 6 points on the bengals defense.

Pit Bull #53 · 11-26-2007, 11:16 AM

I think if Fisher would have challenged the Gage would-be TD catch, it would have been overturned. He got one foot down easily, would have had the other down, but was knocked out of bounds and clearly had control of the ball. It was a great catch.

Wouldn't have changed the outcome I don't think (can't really remember what point of the game it happened to be honest), but I think it would have been a TD.