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On the field performance is all that matters, and Witten is spanking Shockey right now.

And as for physical tools, Shockey is far superior? Keep smoking that pipe buddy. Witten is definetly bigger and stronger, you can't even tell yourself when your drunk that Shockey isn't a bit** about getting hit. Also just look at them on the field, Witten is huge compared to him. Witten also has better hands. Shockey isn't even that much faster either. Witten is definitly the better TE as of right now. Also, Shockey can be a cancer in the locker and a little cry baby, Witten is a class act and a team leader.

Homerism aside, it's a pretty easy decision for me. Witten.
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Is it the coaching?

I'm not sure what the problem is with the Giants getting Shockey involved more. When people talk about him, they mention he's a good pass catcher, he stretches the field, runs over would be tacklers... so what's going on this year? Why isn't he involved more. He skipped going to Miami to train during the offseason to build more chemistry with Eli, but so far the results aren't showing.

In a lot of ways, Shockey is the Giants version of Roy Williams...still living off his rookie year highlights and overrated by fans of his team. A highlight here and there keeps his hype alive, but consistent production is a problem.

Shockey has been a huge let down this year so far and he's killin' my fantasy team. :( The Giants have been having a down year, but the offense has still been putting points on the board. It's just that Shockey isn't apart of the equation much and when he has been targeted, he's dropped some key catches. I'm not sure using him as a decoy is the smartest thing for your offense.
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I just realized that was Achilles/Tnew..Glad to see he's back and more homerism than ever
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OK time for the real debate to start, NFC East Safety Rankings:

-Brian Dawkins
-Sean Consadine
-Sean Taylor
-LaRon Landry
-Roy Williams
-Ken Hamlin
-Gibril Wilson

1) Sean Taylor-Yeah I did it, shoot me for it. ST has taken the next step this year, after having slimmed down 10 pounds in the offseason. He is still the biggest hitter and elite against the run, but now is agile and an above average cover safety in the league. He has yet to be beaten deep all season long. He is making plays all over and covering wideouts 1 on 1 with good success. His worst play this season was a play in which Plaxico juked him on an open field tackle, but other than that flawless play.
2) Brian Dawkins-Still a huge hitter, not as good in coverage, old, injured.
3) Gibril Wilson-I really think he would be a very very good safety if he had someone playing beside him.
4) Roy Williams
5) Ken Hamlin
6) Laron Landry-Could be higher on the list but is a rookie. A tackling machine and blitzing specialist, has not been challenged this year deep yet.
7) Sean Consadine-Solid
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OK time for the real debate to start, NFC East Safety Rankings:

-Brian Dawkins
-Sean Consadine
-Sean Taylor
-LaRon Landry
-Roy Williams
-Ken Hamlin
-Gibril Wilson

1) Sean Taylor-Yeah I did it, shoot me for it. ST has taken the next step this year, after having slimmed down 10 pounds in the offseason. He is still the biggest hitter and elite against the run, but now is agile and an above average cover safety in the league. He has yet to be beaten deep all season long. He is making plays all over and covering wideouts 1 on 1 with good success. His worst play this season was a play in which Plaxico juked him on an open field tackle, but other than that flawless play.
2) Brian Dawkins-Still a huge hitter, not as good in coverage, old, injured.
3) Gibril Wilson-I really think he would be a very very good safety if he had someone playing beside him.
4) Roy Williams
5) Ken Hamlin
6) Laron Landry-Could be higher on the list but is a rookie. A tackling machine and blitzing specialist, has not been challenged this year deep yet.
7) Sean Consadine-Solid

Them be fightin' words, putting Taylor ahead of Dawkins.

1. Brian Dawkins. He's the best. Great in coverage, not always amazing against the run but does a good enough job. Huge hitter, but he is climbing in age.
2 or 1A really. Sean Taylor. As our Ghettorific homie pointed out, he's covering much better and he's excellent against the run. He looks MUCH faster than last year and is poised to take over Dawkins.
3. Gibril Wilson. Vastly underrated. An excellent safety who consistently flies under the radar.
4. LaRon Landry. Better in coverage than Roy Williams, which to me is really what seperates them.
5. Roy Williams. Essentially a undersized linebacker. Brutal in pass coverage, but huge near the line of scrimmage.
6. Ken Hamlin. Essentially the same as Roy, but slightly better in pass, slightly worse in run.
7. Sean Considine. Much better so far than last year, added bulk has helped. Poised to slide over to FS when Dawkins retires.
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I love how our other safety isn't even mentioned. You rank the safeties 1-7.
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Is it the coaching?

I'm not sure what the problem is with the Giants getting Shockey involved more. When people talk about him, they mention he's a good pass catcher, he stretches the field, runs over would be tacklers... so what's going on this year? Why isn't he involved more. He skipped going to Miami to train during the offseason to build more chemistry with Eli, but so far the results aren't showing.

In a lot of ways, Shockey is the Giants version of Roy Williams...still living off his rookie year highlights and overrated by fans of his team. A highlight here and there keeps his hype alive, but consistent production is a problem.

Shockey has been a huge let down this year so far and he's killin' my fantasy team. :( The Giants have been having a down year, but the offense has still been putting points on the board. It's just that Shockey isn't apart of the equation much and when he has been targeted, he's dropped some key catches. I'm not sure using him as a decoy is the smartest thing for your offense.
I actually think our Roy Williams is Gibril Wilson. He's also overrated by many Giants, and living off his reputation from his rookie year. I don't find him to be anything special at all, but many Giant fans believe he can recapture that 8 game span of dominance from his rookie year. *shrug*

By my count, Shockey's # was called 3 times last night. One was caught for 18 yards, one was incomplete, the other an INT. The man can produce, but Coughlin just isn't a TE guy.

He uses Shockey for the most part to pull the coverage, and open up the WRs. Thats how this offense runs. Its a WR offense. I don't agree with it, but thats just how it is.

I do agree that he drops some balls, and is not taking advantage of the few times his number is called, but I also believe that if he gets his number called more, he can have much better numbers. Sending him deep to pull the safety on every play isn't the best way to utilize him imo. And he's doing an awful lot of blocking this year to help out Diehl.

Consistency is definately a problem, and he does have to work on his hands. But even with that, there really aren't many TEs out there that are better. If you want to put Witten ahead, you can, I won't necessarily argue with it, but other than him, Gonzalez, Gates, and Winslow, would you take anyone else over Shockey? I wouldn't. And being top 5 at your position isn't too shabby.
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wow, Im surprised at how you guys are ranking Wilson so far. Honestly, I don't see it, maybe Im just in the minority. *shrug*


If we're basing these rankings off this year only, you put Taylor at 1A and Dawkins at 1B, because Taylor has been lights out thus far. But overall, its hard for me to not put Dawkins at 1. The man's resume speaks for itself.
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I love how our other safety isn't even mentioned. You rank the safeties 1-7.
We don't have another safety. That's why we got lit up int he first 2 weeks, we only had 10 players on the field.
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We don't have another safety. That's why we got lit up int he first 2 weeks, we only had 10 players on the field.
Actually with McQuarters out there covering their #1 WR, and Webster covering their #2, it was more like 8....
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I actually think our Roy Williams is Gibril Wilson. He's also overrated by many Giants, and living off his reputation from his rookie year. I don't find him to be anything special at all, but many Giant fans believe he can recapture that 8 game span of dominance from his rookie year. *shrug*

By my count, Shockey's # was called 3 times last night. One was caught for 18 yards, one was incomplete, the other an INT. The man can produce, but Coughlin just isn't a TE guy.

He uses Shockey for the most part to pull the coverage, and open up the WRs. Thats how this offense runs. Its a WR offense. I don't agree with it, but thats just how it is.

I do agree that he drops some balls, and is not taking advantage of the few times his number is called, but I also believe that if he gets his number called more, he can have much better numbers. Sending him deep to pull the safety on every play isn't the best way to utilize him imo. And he's doing an awful lot of blocking this year to help out Diehl.

Consistency is definately a problem, and he does have to work on his hands. But even with that, there really aren't many TEs out there that are better. If you want to put Witten ahead, you can, I won't necessarily argue with it, but other than him, Gonzalez, Gates, and Winslow, would you take anyone else over Shockey? I wouldn't. And being top 5 at your position isn't too shabby.
Sounds similar to Jason Witten last year. He was asked to block a lot more and was often decoy boy.
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OK time for the real debate to start, NFC East Safety Rankings:

-Brian Dawkins
-Sean Consadine
-Sean Taylor
-LaRon Landry
-Roy Williams
-Ken Hamlin
-Gibril Wilson

1) Sean Taylor-Yeah I did it, shoot me for it. ST has taken the next step this year, after having slimmed down 10 pounds in the offseason. He is still the biggest hitter and elite against the run, but now is agile and an above average cover safety in the league. He has yet to be beaten deep all season long. He is making plays all over and covering wideouts 1 on 1 with good success. His worst play this season was a play in which Plaxico juked him on an open field tackle, but other than that flawless play.
2) Brian Dawkins-Still a huge hitter, not as good in coverage, old, injured.
3) Gibril Wilson-I really think he would be a very very good safety if he had someone playing beside him.
4) Roy Williams
5) Ken Hamlin
6) Laron Landry-Could be higher on the list but is a rookie. A tackling machine and blitzing specialist, has not been challenged this year deep yet.
7) Sean Consadine-Solid
1. Sean Taylor - Haven't watched him at all this year yet, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt of being the top S in the division.

2. Ken Hamlin - He's put together a nice string of games here and is really starting to emerge as one of the best players on Dallas' defense. He's shown to be a ball hawk and perfect fit in Phillips' defense.

3. Roy Williams - He's still producing at a Pro Bowl level. Hasn't given up any big plays this year yet.

4. LaRon Landry - Playing pretty well for a rookie. Has made some highlights, but still needs to progress.

5. Gibril Wilson - Seeing a lot of action his way. Not a good thing.

6. Sean Consadine - Glad he's not a starter for Dallas. He's serviceable, but mistake prone.

7. Brian Dawkins - Call it age, call it hard luck... he's not on the field, so Dawkins can't be rated any higher. He's had a hell of a career. Hopefully it doesn't end like this.
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1. Sean Taylor - Haven't watched him at all this year yet, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt of being the top S in the division.

2. Ken Hamlin - He's put together a nice string of games here and is really starting to emerge as one of the best players on Dallas' defense. He's shown to be a ball hawk and perfect fit in Phillips' defense.

3. Roy Williams - He's still producing at a Pro Bowl level. Hasn't given up any big plays this year yet.

4. LaRon Landry - Playing pretty well for a rookie. Has made some highlights, but still needs to progress.

5. Gibril Wilson - Seeing a lot of action his way. Not a good thing.

6. Sean Consadine - Glad he's not a starter for Dallas. He's serviceable, but mistake prone.

7. Brian Dawkins - Call it age, call it hard luck... he's not on the field, so Dawkins can't be rated any higher. He's had a hell of a career. Hopefully it doesn't end like this.
Pretty sure Dawk missed two games out of 4. So he's been on the field to be graded. Hamlin and Williams at 2 and 3 is ludicrous.
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Pretty sure Dawk missed two games out of 4. So he's been on the field to be graded. Hamlin and Williams at 2 and 3 is ludicrous.
If it's ludicrous, then explain why. My grades are based off of actual play so far this year. Not career history, not potential... now.
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-Reno Mahe
-Antwaan Randle El
-Patrick Crayton??? I think he's the regular punt returner right?
-R.W. McQuarters

1) Antwaan Randle El-Biggest threat to break it every time he touches it, but does too much dancing, it's either a 50 yard return or 5 yard return.
2) Patrick Crayton
3)R.W. McQuarters
4) Reno Mahe-Could be the worst punt returner ever. It is an accomplishment if he doesn't fumble the punt, if he gets 2-5 yards on the return that is just icing on the cake.

Kick Returners
-Tyson Thompson
-Correll Buckhalter
-Rock Cartwright
-Ahmad Bradshaw

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2) Tyson Thompson
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-Patrick Crayton??? I think he's the regular punt returner right?
-R.W. McQuarters

1) Antwaan Randle El-Biggest threat to break it every time he touches it, but does too much dancing, it's either a 50 yard return or 5 yard return.
2) Patrick Crayton
3)R.W. McQuarters
4) Reno Mahe-Could be the worst punt returner ever. It is an accomplishment if he doesn't fumble the punt, if he gets 2-5 yards on the return that is just icing on the cake.

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-Tyson Thompson
-Correll Buckhalter
-Rock Cartwright
-Ahmad Bradshaw

1) Rock Carwright
2) Tyson Thompson
3) Ahmad Bradshaw
4) Correll Buckhalter
This is moot as Dallas will have Desean Jackson on returns next year.
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Worst LT in the division? Easily Winston Justice.
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I think the reason gibril is rated so highly is he was our only db the first two weeks and landry is a rookie. Honestly he's nothing special but that's enough to be better than the Dallas safeties and considine. Disagree with him over landry but once landry gets some more starts he'll move up

As for shockey I think this year has shown him to be a more complete player as his impacting the game without getting the ball, and he's done it with his blocking and running his routes well enough to where teams have to respect him

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4) Reno Mahe-Could be the worst punt returner ever. It is an accomplishment if he doesn't fumble the punt, if he gets 2-5 yards on the return that is just icing on the cake.
Reno was signed BECAUSE he doesn't fumble. He fair catches too much, but he doesn't fumble and led the league in yards per return last year. So I don't get your reasoning.
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It's a good thing he's not a starter and had his first ever start against an elite DE then right? You really want to match up backups?
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This is moot as Dallas will have Desean Jackson on returns next year.
How exactly does that impact the question Ghetto brought up?
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Originatting back to the first thread, Clinton Portis is the best back in the conference to me because he can do everything, has anyone noticed how good of a blocker he is? He can catch out the backfield, run inside or out, has the 5th gear, he just hasnt been able to stop getting nicked up...

I give him the nod over westy, just slightly, because portis can do everything pretty damn good, and if they were interested in making him a feature back he could put up huge numbers...


only thing that seperates Barber out of that class of those 2 is his top end speed, everything else I can argue that he does just as good as every other back in the conference...


as far as safeties Hamlin is getting ranked pretty low, but thats fine...he does so much for our D its not even funny, hope we keep him around...
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Originatting back to the first thread, Clinton Portis is the best back in the conference to me because he can do everything, has anyone noticed how good of a blocker he is? He can catch out the backfield, run inside or out, has the 5th gear, he just hasnt been able to stop getting nicked up...

I give him the nod over westy, just slightly, because portis can do everything pretty damn good, and if they were interested in making him a feature back he could put up huge numbers...


only thing that seperates Barber out of that class of those 2 is his top end speed, everything else I can argue that he does just as good as every other back in the conference...

A) How do you give Portis the nod ahead of Westbrook saying he "can do everything pretty damn good"? Do you not know what Westbrook does?
B) And the fact that he hasn't proved he's anything more than a situational back (Barber) He's not as good a receiver as Westbrook or Portis.
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