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Old 09-17-2011, 11:50 PM    (permalink
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Cortez never gave the OK to fight. He should have had Floyd go to a corner and been in between them. ****** ref.
Yeah, upon further review I didnt see an OK, either.

But whatever...that head butt was BS. And this fight more than likley would have ended the same way anyway. Ortiz is a *****. I just want to see this god damn Pac fight.
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I feel sorry for the people who pad 60 dollars for a 20min fight.
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For mayfeather being a douche i approve of that headbutt. Would've been a good 12 round fight though.
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This is why Boxing is a falling sport. Pacquiao is about the only thing they got going for em. Mayweather too cuz ppl wanna see him get his bell rung. 1st fight I watch this year..probably gonna be my last too.
Mayweather's sales are incredible. But boxing still needs that American heavy weight KO King to come along.

And one thing that does suck, is that people who order Mayweather fights usually leave disappointed. Mayweather is exceptional. But he's appreciated much more by true boxing fans, for his technical prowess. To the casual watcher, Mayweather fights may appear boring. I've heard it many a time.
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For mayfeather being a douche i approve of that headbutt. Would've been a good 12 round fight though.
Imma agree and approve this msg.
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Mayweather's sales are incredible. But boxing still needs that American heavy weight KO King to come along.

And one thing that does suck, is that people who order Mayweather fights usually leave disappointed. Mayweather is exceptional. But he's appreciated much more by true boxing fans, for his technical prowess. To the casual watcher, Mayweather fights may appear boring. I've heard it many a time.
I appreciate his technique. Not a huge fan of it personally, his style, but you have to admire his amazing skill. I just hate his attitude.
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Mayweather's sales are incredible. But boxing still needs that American heavy weight KO King to come along.

And one thing that does suck, is that people who order Mayweather fights usually leave disappointed. Mayweather is exceptional. But he's appreciated much more by true boxing fans, for his technical prowess. To the casual watcher, Mayweather fights may appear boring. I've heard it many a time.
Mayweather is awesome to watch fight, I think the match up between him and Pac would be epic. Pac fights exactly how Mayweather wants his opponent to fight.
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Mayweather's sales are incredible. But boxing still needs that American heavy weight KO King to come along.

And one thing that does suck, is that people who order Mayweather fights usually leave disappointed. Mayweather is exceptional. But he's appreciated much more by true boxing fans, for his technical prowess. To the casual watcher, Mayweather fights may appear boring. I've heard it many a time.
Mayweather/De La Hoya was an absolute borefest and I refuse to believe even "true" boxing fans would think otherwise.
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I don't think anyone is knocking Mayweathers skills, but it's kind of hard to like a dude when he's a dbag no matter how good he is.
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This is why Boxing is a falling sport. Pacquiao is about the only thing they got going for em. Mayweather too cuz ppl wanna see him get his bell rung. 1st fight I watch this year..probably gonna be my last too.


I'd say boxing is falling because you have to pay ******* 70 dollars to watch the damn thing on TV. I don't understand why this isn't more of an issue to people.
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Mayweather/De La Hoya was an absolute borefest and I refuse to believe even "true" boxing fans would think otherwise.
That's just Mayweather's game. He's patient, smart, incredibly sound, defensive. As boring as that may appear. The guy is a modern day marvel of sorts.
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I'd say boxing is falling because you have to pay ******* 70 dollars to watch the damn thing on TV. I don't understand why this isn't more of an issue to people.
I'd never pay for it and I'm a huge boxing guy. I'll either mooch off of some friend's dollar, who will pay for it. lol. Or just find a link.
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I'd never pay for it and I'm a huge boxing guy. I'll either mooch off of some friend's dollar, who will pay for it. lol. Or just find a link.

But only the people who really care about it are going to go through the trouble of finding and watching some blurry feed on the internet. It doesn't seem to me like boxing is going to take off again unless some channel picks it up.
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Imma agree with MOTH that what Boxing needs here in the states is that american HW champ. They need a Muhammad Ali. But the HWs are dead imo. The Klitchkos got it on lockdown.
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But only the people who really care about it are going to go through the trouble of finding and watching some blurry feed on the internet. It doesn't seem to me like boxing is going to take off again unless some channel picks it up.
Well I pretty much agree. They make a killing off of Mayweather and Pac PPVs, though. But they should certainly look into different markets for larger fights. It's not like everyone has HBO. So a lot of people arent seeing those fights, either. They could really benefit from a new marketing strategy in general. I dont see why it couldnt be more prominent. Fights are fast and can be thrilling. And there are marketable personalities out there. We're still waiting for the next great American hope, but there are some good characters out there. Boxing has a piss poor ad campaign for non premiere fights and the visibility isnt as good as it could be.
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I'm not a big boxing fan but seeing that ending doesn't really make me want to start watching at all. I know it was legal and Ortiz's headbutt was dirty but I just feel like that ending was so unsporting. Watching that brings me no enjoyment at all; I just get frustrated by it.

Side note, it also looks fixed to me. I could honestly see that sequence after the headbutt being scripted.

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It wasn't fixed. **** with that crap. Also, boxing doesn't need an American HW right now (although it would be nice)....we just need Pac-Mayweather. Honestly, boxing is still alive and well amongst all of the people that I would ever want to talk boxing with. There is nothing I hate more than a casual boxing fan talking BS.

As for PBF-Ortiz. I would have loveddddd it to continue on. Ortiz would have kept pushing forward and was making some decent headway. It could have been good. It probably would have been a PBF decision as usual, but it could have been a solid fight and it would have kept you on the edge of your seat considering Ortiz's power. Meh ending. PBF was within his rights, but c'mon man.......don't fake the hug.
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After thinking about this further I'm not sure who I'm more disappointed in; Mayweather for the cheap KO or Ortiz for not being furious after being knocked out like that during his interview or during the post fight interviews.
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It was dirty, but Ortiz deserved that ****...weak ass head butt.

And Mayweather is right....you dont walk around a boxing ring with your hands down by your side, regardless of the situation. Protect yourself at all time.
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