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Old 06-10-2012, 04:06 AM    (permalink
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Yeah, the announcer dudes had it 90-81 Pacman going into the 10th... No one was in disagreement on any of the rounds... Pac won all of them.

LOL @ people who deny that boxing is fixed.
Them never being in disagreement doesn't mean anything. Lederman knows more about judging than all of them. Why would they disagree with him?

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"Can you believe that? Unbelievable," promoter Bob Arum said. "I went over to Bradley before the decision and he said, `I tried hard but I couldn't beat the guy."'
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My goal was to knock him out. I give him credit for three rounds. Almost every round I hurt him. I know he feels that.
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Bradley says he fought hurt... Did you see any difference in the fight?

"I believe I hurt him every time I punched him. His punches didn't hurt me. I don't believe any of his punches hurt me. That's why I am surprised of the result. "
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What the ******* **** was that **** ?
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I can't believe Pacquaio lost that decision, he was clearly outboxing Bradley. Then again, I also thought Marquez embarrassed Pacquaio.
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I can't believe Pacquaio lost that decision, he was clearly outboxing Bradley. Then again, I also thought Marquez embarrassed Pacquaio.
Boxing is fixed. It's why no one watches it anymore.
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I probably won't even waste my money and watch the rematch, it wasn't even close enough to warrant a rematch, lol.
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Kind of obvious that they used that to get Pac to re-sign with Top Rank. Dollars to donuts they make him re-sign to get a rematch.
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Old 06-10-2012, 11:18 AM    (permalink
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Kind of obvious that they used that to get Pac to re-sign with Top Rank. Dollars to donuts they make him re-sign to get a rematch.
Yeah, because Top rank has any leverage whatsoever over Manny. This thread sucks, I'm not happy I bumped it.
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Old 06-10-2012, 11:43 AM    (permalink
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Well they didn't before last night.
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Well they didn't before last night.
They still obviously don't. Pac is one of 2 elite attractions in boxing. Top Rank needs Pac, Pac doesn't need Top Rank. Arum would never not do this rematch regardless of Pac resigning....it's basically flushing 30 million bucks down the toilet.
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I'm damn near 100% sure that neither Top Rank or Golden Boy would ever fix fights. It would be ridiculously stupid. Now, are judges influenced by outside circumstances (ie: Pac just won a controversial decision in Vegas, the crowd, the side of the ring they are viewing the fight from, personal style biases and preferences, etc) absolutely, but that doesn't constitute something being fixed. There is a massive difference. When you say fixed it means that the outcome was pre determined and was agreed upon. I think you're really, really dumb if you believe that to be the case. Plus, none of you probably even watch much live boxing at all and realize how screwy cards can get and how different the fight can appear live and from different angles. I'm not defending the cards, but I am saying that it wasn't a total fix and I'm saying that you would have had it a lot closer if you were sitting where the judges were.
Teddy Atlas went on a ten minute rant on ESPN on how he is suspicious of Bob Arum having something to do with this. And i'm pretty sure he's watched ten times more boxing than any of us have, ever. Including yourself.
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Teddy Atlas went on a ten minute rant on ESPN on how he is suspicious of Bob Arum having something to do with this. And i'm pretty sure he's watched ten times more boxing than any of us have, ever. Including yourself.
Good for Teddy Atlas. He has also ****** up countless times in commentating on non sporting issues. Almost all people who really follow boxing think he should shut his mouth. Fine commentator for in-ring stuff though.
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Ok guys Rob is the boxing guru we should listen to him.
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"If this were American Idol, without a doubt, Manny Pacquiao would have won," Ford said. "But it was not. I gave an honest opinion. I had Pacquiao up 4-2, I think, at the end of six rounds. I thought he hurt Bradley a couple of times early in the fight. But when the bell rang to end that round, it was over and what happens in one round doesn't carry over to the next round. They're separate units.
"In the second half of the fight, Pacquiao picked off a lot of punches to the head, but Bradley landed some hard body shots. That hurt Pacquiao. I don't mean it hurt him in the sense of it physically hurting him, but in terms of scoring and piling up points. Bradley did an excellent job standing his ground as a boxer. Remember, it's a boxing match and Bradley demonstrated his ability to box expertly."
Everyone's bringing up that Pac outlanded Bradley, but all the punches weren't spread out evenly in each round. He dominated in some rounds, and played it safe in the others.
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Everyone's bringing up that Pac outlanded Bradley, but all the punches weren't spread out evenly in each round. He dominated in some rounds, and played it safe in the others.
Here you go then:

Punches Landed:

Round 7
Pacman: 27
Bradley: 11

Round 8
Pacman:15
Bradley: 9

Round 9
Pacman:25
Bradley:26

Round 10:
Pacman: 14
Bradley: 14

Round 11:
Pacman: 21
Bradley: 15

Round 12:
Pacman: 20
Bradley: 15

There you go Pacman landed more punches in 4 of the final 6 rounds, one round was a tie, one round Bradley landed one more. But the truth is compustrike aside it was evident who was controlling the ring, and who was landing actual damaging punches. And for what it's worth Pacman landed more power punches in 5 of the last 6 rounds with them having the same amount in round 10.
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They still obviously don't. Pac is one of 2 elite attractions in boxing. Top Rank needs Pac, Pac doesn't need Top Rank. Arum would never not do this rematch regardless of Pac resigning....it's basically flushing 30 million bucks down the toilet.
Right. And by Pac losing, they get to keep making money off of him with the rematch whether he re-signs or not. They'll sure as **** try to leverage him into re-signing as a stipulation for the rematch whether they have a ton of ground to stand on with that or not.
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Good opinion piece on the fight.
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According to a conspiracy theory that had been floated and workshopped and all but perfected in the two minutes it took to walk from the arena to an adjacent banquet room for the post-fight press conference, "that guy" was Pacquiao's promoter, Top Rank CEO Bob Arum.

This sounds far-fetched — and it is — but not much more far-fetched than the possibility that three professional judges who also happen to be human beings with eyeballs connected to optic nerves connected to non-lobotomized brains could watch that fight and believe that Bradley won.
This made me laugh. Good point too.
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