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Old 07-26-2008, 11:02 PM    (permalink
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Styles make fights and Cotto just didnt have the style that is successful against Margarito. He fought a foolish fight. Props to Margarito.
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I really dont see why people confuse "tough" with elite. Margarito is a tough fighter. Great chin. Good power and he's big...but if you watch him u see that he's not GOOD. He got outboxed by Josh Clottey. He got outboxed by Paul Williams. And he definitely would NOT beat Paul Williams in a rematch. He SHOULD get outboxed by Cotto and maybe even stopped. He's never gotten hit by anybody as much as he's gonna get hit by Cotto. I'm just not one of the people that understands why everybody is payin attention to the hype while ignoring the in-ring body of work of the guy. I'm not talkin about what he does to Golden Johnson and Kermit Cintron-type scrubs. I'm talkin bout when he actually gets in there with a fighter with a pulse, he gets beaten and outclassed. It'll happen again tonight or Cotto is overrated.
tough > elite i guess...
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Uhhh no. Tonight Margarito's will was stronger than Cotto's skill. Cotto had a good fight plan but he abandoned it. You cant knock everybody out dude. Sometimes u have to stick and move to win. Cotto decided not to do it, so he lost. He's not as disciplined a fighter as Paul Williams.
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Hey whoever said Cotto had to watch out for Margarito's uppercuts was dead on. Those short lead uppercuts were a thing of beauty.
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How can any human being take Cotto's clean punches like that for 10 rounds?
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this is why i hate my friends

they went to an amateur mma fight (sold my tix b/c i had to work; plus they think they can do it), and i watched this fight

they hate boxing b/c they've seen 1 fight (mayweather-de la hoya go figure) and think its boring

i've tried to get them to watch some roy jones jr, and some older fights (ali-frazier, etc), but they think it will be boring

anyways, what a fight; real good

may will stay retired now; think he was waiting for a big payday with cotto
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this is why i hate my friends

they went to an amateur mma fight (sold my tix b/c i had to work; plus they think they can do it), and i watched this fight

they hate boxing b/c they've seen 1 fight (mayweather-de la hoya go figure) and think its boring

i've tried to get them to watch some roy jones jr, and some older fights (ali-frazier, etc), but they think it will be boring

anyways, what a fight; real good

may will stay retired now; think he was waiting for a big payday with cotto

Dude i hate your friends, my friends are completely the opposite.
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im surprised, i thought cotto would win
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Dude i hate your friends, my friends are completely the opposite.
dude, i would like your friends then

its annoying; honestly, i think they like mma is b/c they think they can do it (we wrestled in hs and were pretty good) and a lot of wrestlers are getting into it

they all say they're worried about the stand-up part; none have ever been in a fight; i just laugh b/c they'd drop after 1 punch

all i ask is for them to just watch 1 boxing match on ppv (since we order like every mma, and it bores me); and i mean like the one tonight, not a may-odh one
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dude, i would like your friends then

its annoying; honestly, i think they like mma is b/c they think they can do it (we wrestled in hs and were pretty good) and a lot of wrestlers are getting into it

they all say they're worried about the stand-up part; none have ever been in a fight; i just laugh b/c they'd drop after 1 punch

all i ask is for them to just watch 1 boxing match on ppv (since we order like every mma, and it bores me); and i mean like the one tonight, not a may-odh one

haha i honestly love the stand up part, i fought a million times and it always worked for me, but im a good wrestler as well. My favorite thing to do was ground and pound. MMA is so much harder then it seems, those guys work their ass off for a short fight.
Friends like that would just piss me off. We had a party this last saturday where there was a lot of people and we turned on the big screen tv and watched MMA. lol, everyone i know loves it.
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i would like to see them fight; my jr high wrestling coach trains with some of the guys in it (his bro-in-laws friend runs it); all they work on is takedowns and submissions

i would find it hilarious to see one of my friends get ko'd; that sounds bad, but they think they'd be good

they also said they would last more than a couple rounds with a pro boxer at 120 weight class (when they weigh 150)
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Margarito was just amazing....he kept coming forward again and again. Cotto abused him early on and he didnt seem effected at all. I will say, Cotto faught nearly a perfect fight for the 1st 5 rounds but, Margarito was just too much for him. Unbelievable performace. Who knows where these guys go from here, though. This shakes things up a bit. Pretty much kills any Cotto/Mayweather. If I'm Maragrito, I want Paul Williams again. Yeah, this was a bit of a coin toss but, I'm shocked.
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i would like to see them fight; my jr high wrestling coach trains with some of the guys in it (his bro-in-laws friend runs it); all they work on is takedowns and submissions

i would find it hilarious to see one of my friends get ko'd; that sounds bad, but they think they'd be good

they also said they would last more than a couple rounds with a pro boxer at 120 weight class (when they weigh 150)
Someone at 120 would wear their ass out, 2 rounds and they will die. I think they'll get ko'd, those small guys are quick as hell and your friends will be surprized with the power.
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Someone at 120 would wear their ass out, 2 rounds and they will die. I think they'll get ko'd, those small guys are quick as hell and your friends will be surprized with the power.
i told them the same thing (power); i said they knock pros out in 12 rounds, imagine what they'd do to someone with no experiance

it would be worse than canseco vs that eagle guy; and he had 50 lbs on him; they would only have 30-40
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i told them the same thing (power); i said they knock pros out in 12 rounds, imagine what they'd do to someone with no experiance

it would be worse than canseco vs that eagle guy; and he had 50 lbs on him; they would only have 30-40
The weight does not matter if you look at it. It is a pro vs. no experiance. Im 170 and i know i would get my ass whoped vs. a 120 pro boxer.
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The weight does not matter if you look at it. It is a pro vs. no experiance. Im 170 and i know i would get my ass whoped vs. a 120 pro boxer.
tell that to them; not even a pro, and amateur would whoop them
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I dont know about you guys but as the fight wore on....I felt that Cotto could go at any moment but, there was nothing Cotto could do to knock out Margarito. Hell of a performance by Margarito.
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Man, i was rooting for Margarito and i'm glad he pulled it out for my peeps :D

Does anyone have the scorecards for the fight? I looked for them on FoxSports but couldn't find them.
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Man i really didnt care who wins, i just wanted to see some kickass boxing.
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Man, i was rooting for Margarito and i'm glad he pulled it out for my peeps :D

Does anyone have the scorecards for the fight? I looked for them on FoxSports but couldn't find them.
they said that 2 judges had its 96-94 margarito and 1 had it tied going into the final round
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they said that 2 judges had its 96-94 margarito and 1 had it tied going into the final round
Thanks. How did the douchebag Lederman have it scored?
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Thanks. How did the douchebag Lederman have it scored?
he had it even
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he had it even
Oh okay, i usually base my scoring opposite of what he does.
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