|
|
| Atlanta Falcons Team Forum Discuss the Falcons |
10-04-2007, 04:24 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
All-Pro
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Back to back to back winning seasons ftw
Posts: 6,975
Reputation: 64327
|
Andre Woodson
So is it safe to assume that he is better than Brohm?
__________________
"He's the leader of the next great class of NFL players. " - John Elway on Matt Ryan
|
|
|
|   Sponsored Advertisement |
|   Remove Ads By Signing Up for an Account! |
|
10-04-2007, 04:27 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Pro Bowler
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: deep inside elmo
Posts: 3,227
Reputation: 517173
|
i think so..
better stats
better competition
more success.
|
|
|
10-04-2007, 04:36 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Icon
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The Lynn Swan of SWDC Hall of Fame
Posts: 18,133
Reputation: 172402
|
I like him better than Brohm, but I think the odds are better that the team ends up with Brohm. Right now I think Woodson is the #1 pick right now, unless a team has absolutely no need for a QB. I think Atlanta will finish with a record that will earn a 5-6 draft slot.
|
|
|
10-04-2007, 04:38 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Ghettosermon
Legend
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Pentagon City, VA
Posts: 22,382
Reputation: 455091
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by d34ng3l021
So is it safe to assume that he is better than Brohm?
|
I think so, physically he is superior to Brohm, Woodson is very accurate, has a nice arm and can go deep, his mechanics are good, he is a great leader, and #1 is he never makes stupid throws. He has the NCAA record for most passes thrown without an interception, his ceiling is high. Brohm I see has a gunslinger who can get himself in trouble like a Marc Bulger or worst case scenario a Rex Grossman, but with Petrino it will be interesting, kinda like Tennessee in which everyone thought they would take Leinart because of Norm Chow, but they decided instead to make the smart move and take the better QB.
|
|
|
10-04-2007, 04:58 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
All-Pro
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Back to back to back winning seasons ftw
Posts: 6,975
Reputation: 64327
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghettosermon
I think so, physically he is superior to Brohm, Woodson is very accurate, has a nice arm and can go deep, his mechanics are good, he is a great leader, and #1 is he never makes stupid throws. He has the NCAA record for most passes thrown without an interception, his ceiling is high. Brohm I see has a gunslinger who can get himself in trouble like a Marc Bulger or worst case scenario a Rex Grossman, but with Petrino it will be interesting, kinda like Tennessee in which everyone thought they would take Leinart because of Norm Chow, but they decided instead to make the smart move and take the better QB.
|
I hope we do the same thing. Petrino doesnt have much say in drafting, but there might be a small chance we take Brohm over Woodson. I would be pissed though.
At the rate we are going though, I think we will be picking outside the top5, and Brohm will slip, so we can still have him. That would be a pretty good scenario.
Or if all else fails, we can take Kenny Phillips and get the stud safety I have always wanted.
__________________
"He's the leader of the next great class of NFL players. " - John Elway on Matt Ryan
|
|
|
10-04-2007, 05:40 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
All-NFLDC
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 11,021
Reputation: 191776
|
im sure he will have much to learn in the NFL like any rookie QB but i think he will be ready to start from day one
|
|
|
10-04-2007, 05:40 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Ghettosermon
Legend
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Pentagon City, VA
Posts: 22,382
Reputation: 455091
|
Yeah wouldn't you guys have taken Landry over Anderson if he was there, I heard Landry was #1 defensive player on the Falcons draft board.
|
|
|
10-04-2007, 06:37 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
All-Pro
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Back to back to back winning seasons ftw
Posts: 6,975
Reputation: 64327
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghettosermon
Yeah wouldn't you guys have taken Landry over Anderson if he was there, I heard Landry was #1 defensive player on the Falcons draft board.
|
Why do you think I was so pissed off when you guys drafted Landry?
Safety isnt that much of a need this year though. We have Jimmy Williams at FS, and he has shown promise, but still is very inconsistent. I dont know how much longer Milloy can hold down the fort at SS. His back up Stone looked good, but that was preseason and he was a 6th round pick. We will see.
I will be honestly surprised to see us draft Phillips though. We have alot of other bigger needs.
Great. Now I am pissed off we didnt get Landry again. And Huff the year before.
I want Woodson though. So badly.
__________________
"He's the leader of the next great class of NFL players. " - John Elway on Matt Ryan
|
|
|
10-04-2007, 06:41 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 517
Reputation: 322
|
If Washington didn't take Landry, reports were coming in that he was the pick over Peterson on the Vikings' board. Thank god that didn't happen.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by 7-11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renji
Keyshawn because i just hate T.O. he is a cocky son of a biscuit
|
But an athletic marvel for a second generation confectionary product
|
|
|
|
10-04-2007, 06:43 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
All-Pro
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Back to back to back winning seasons ftw
Posts: 6,975
Reputation: 64327
|
I cant believe we missed out on Landry and Peterson because Washington and Minnesota took em out of the blue. No one saw those picks coming.
__________________
"He's the leader of the next great class of NFL players. " - John Elway on Matt Ryan
|
|
|
10-04-2007, 06:51 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 517
Reputation: 322
|
Washington - Landry was definitely WTF? I was so pissed they took him at the time. Peterson to MN had been going on for a while though. speculation abound.
And I can see how you'd be totally pissed. That sucks.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by 7-11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renji
Keyshawn because i just hate T.O. he is a cocky son of a biscuit
|
But an athletic marvel for a second generation confectionary product
|
|
|
|
10-04-2007, 08:00 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Legend
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 20,922
Reputation: 1423028
|
My ideal draft would actually be Darren McFadden followed up by Dennis Dixon. I love Dixon's arm and playmaking ability in Petrino's scheme, and we all know DMac. Might just be me though.
__________________
|
|
|
10-04-2007, 08:25 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Pro Bowler
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: deep inside elmo
Posts: 3,227
Reputation: 517173
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds
My ideal draft would actually be Darren McFadden followed up by Dennis Dixon. I love Dixon's arm and playmaking ability in Petrino's scheme, and we all know DMac. Might just be me though.
|
my ideal would be the same except we trade up to the late 1st for matt ryan if he is there. we would be losing a draft pick in the second but i'm starting to become a believer that the 'traditional' qb is what it takes to be a superbowl contender and eventual winner.
|
|
|
10-04-2007, 08:29 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Pro Bowler
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: deep inside elmo
Posts: 3,227
Reputation: 517173
|
woodsons been disappointing in the first half.
|
|
|
10-04-2007, 09:17 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
All-Pro
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 9,568
Reputation: 78865
|
I think Petrino can make any QB work this offense. We have two highly talented QBs on the roster already, and this QB class is deep.
Brian Brohm
Andre Woodson
Matt Ryan
Sam Keller
Denis Dixon
Chad Henne
Erik Ainge
Colt Brennan
Pretty deep. Right now I would say the running game is our biggest offensive weakness, and it seems we like Norwood in different roles so when he does touch the ball he is fresh. Maybe that is his best role? But if we do end up with the top pick, I like McFadden all the way. Most talented player in the draft, and IMO a need.
Early mock draft...
1: Darren McFadden, RB Arkansas
2a: Sam Keller, QB Nebraska
2b: Tony Hills, OT Newberry
3: Darien Williams, S Oklahoma
4: Marcus Harrison, DT Arkansas
5: Rodrick Johnson, MLB Oklahoma State
6: Brandon Coutou, K Georgia
7: Leodis McKelvin, CB Troy
7: Rob Jackson, DE Kansas State
__________________
Virginia Tech.
ACC Champions 2004, 2007, 2008, 2010
Next Up: 2012
|
|
|
10-04-2007, 09:55 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Pro Bowler
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,776
Reputation: 460
|
I think there are just way too many options for this team as far as the draft goes. I like Sam, but I'm quickly becoming a bigger fan of Dennis...
|
|
|
10-04-2007, 10:20 PM
|
(permalink)
|
|
All-NFLDC
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 11,021
Reputation: 191776
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by litlharsh
Washington - Landry was definitely WTF? I was so pissed they took him at the time. Peterson to MN had been going on for a while though. speculation abound.
And I can see how you'd be totally pissed. That sucks.
|
actually both picks were speculated well in advance and to me landry wasnt as big of a surprise as peterson. o well nothin beats ted ginn.
|
|
|
10-05-2007, 01:39 AM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Icon
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The Lynn Swan of SWDC Hall of Fame
Posts: 18,133
Reputation: 172402
|
I want the next QB of the Falcons to be as different from Michael Vick as possible. No Dixon!
|
|
|
10-05-2007, 01:40 AM
|
(permalink)
|
|
DC Administrator
Legend
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 54,505
Reputation: 1633167
|
You guys still like Woodson after today's performance?
|
|
|
10-05-2007, 04:50 AM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Legend
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 20,922
Reputation: 1423028
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiver
I want the next QB of the Falcons to be as different from Michael Vick as possible. No Dixon!
|
Haha. I thought Mike had a ton of potential in Petrino's system where a big arm and athletism can be deadly, which is part of the reason I've liked Dixon so much.
__________________
|
|
|
10-05-2007, 04:51 AM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Legend
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 20,922
Reputation: 1423028
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Unit
You guys still like Woodson after today's performance?
|
Yes. The fumbles where huge, but look at his passing stats. They are still pretty solid.
__________________
|
|
|
10-05-2007, 05:35 AM
|
(permalink)
|
|
DC Administrator
Legend
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 54,505
Reputation: 1633167
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds
Yes. The fumbles where huge, but look at his passing stats. They are still pretty solid.
|
I'm not really bothered by the fumbles. It's the poor decision making, not knowing how to handle pressure in the backfield, zero elusiveness and hit or miss accuracy. He basically looked like a bus driver type QB. He couldn't rally his team and didn't show signs of being able to take the game over. Looks too robotic, imo. Brohm is a much better QB in almost every facet of the game.
|
|
|
10-05-2007, 09:23 AM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Pro Bowler
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,776
Reputation: 460
|
Dixon is the man...I want a QB who can move...not run...move. Dixon is a good athlete but he's not going to pull it down and run every opportunity he gets either. I dunno...I'd love to bring Stewart and Dixon both here in the 2nd round if that was possible and then in the first round take a Sam Baker or someone like that...or Rey if he comes out.
|
|
|
10-05-2007, 09:43 AM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Legend
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 20,922
Reputation: 1423028
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Unit
I'm not really bothered by the fumbles. It's the poor decision making, not knowing how to handle pressure in the backfield, zero elusiveness and hit or miss accuracy. He basically looked like a bus driver type QB. He couldn't rally his team and didn't show signs of being able to take the game over. Looks too robotic, imo. Brohm is a much better QB in almost every facet of the game.
|
Personally I didn't see the game, but Brohm hasn't impressed me at all so far.
__________________
|
|
|
10-05-2007, 10:32 AM
|
(permalink)
|
|
Pro Bowler
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,776
Reputation: 460
|
Have you watched him play though? He's incredibly impressive. He's ELITE no matter what year he comes out. He would have challenged for #1 with JaMarcus last year. He's got everything you could want in a QB...really. Great head on his shoulders, great decisions, gets the ball out of his hands quick, and can throw a deep ball that's for darn sure. Beautiful touch on his passes...I like Woodson but I can't get away from Brohm, I think we're over skeptical simply because it's the easy thing to do would be to bring him back with his old College coach. But Brohm is an elite talent no doubt about it.
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:03 AM.
|