Peterson > McFadden

SenorGato · 10-14-2007, 11:26 PM

Perfect time for this post.

As a prospect...Peterson was one of the best of all time IMO. All the way from HS to the pros the guy was never anything less than elite.

McFadden = Elite prospect in his draft. Peterson = Elite prospect in draft history.

BTW: Yes, I do like working with hyperbole.

SuperKevin · 10-14-2007, 11:36 PM

i like McFadden's trick play versatility but I can't make a real assessment until I see McFadden play an NFL down

SenorGato · 10-14-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperKevin

i like McFadden's trick play versatility but I can't make a real assessment until I see McFadden play an NFL down

Peterson's lower center of gravity, stronger legs, similar speed, and overall body strength give him away as the better prospect IMO.

Shiver · 10-14-2007, 11:43 PM

I think it's funny that last year it was en vogue to take Marshawn Lynch as a prospect over Adrian Peterson. I'm just happy I've always felt that Adrian Peterson is the best RB prospect that I have seen with my own eyes.

M.O.T.H. · 10-14-2007, 11:54 PM

AD was def. the better prospect, imo but, Run DMC is the next best thing. Two of the best RB prospects to come out in years. I missed out on AD...I want Mcfadden.

Iamcanadian · 10-14-2007, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperKevin

i like McFadden's trick play versatility but I can't make a real assessment until I see McFadden play an NFL down

They were and are both solid prospects. I agree completely that comparing them now after seeing Peterson play as a pro is completely worthless. Nobody knows how well McFadden will adjust. IMO, the only thing that seperated them is Peterson injury history. If Peterson goes down with another injury and misses the rest of the season, does that count against him because that is the only reason he slipped out of the top 5 in the 1st place. AS PROSPECTS, they are about equal, as pros, that is a completely different story as it is with any rookie.

Shiver · 10-15-2007, 12:05 AM

McFadden will be great in the NFL, I feel, because he's doing well with no legitimate QB to distract defenses.

Woody56 · 10-15-2007, 12:27 AM

Since I have been following the draft closely (2001), I would say Peterson is the best RB prospect ever.

VoteLynnSwan · 10-15-2007, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Woody56

Since I have been following the draft closely (2001), I would say Peterson is the best RB prospect ever.

... this post is probably more useless than the one i'm submitting right now.

B-Dawk · 10-15-2007, 12:47 AM

It seems like McFadden disappears in some games

M.O.T.H. · 10-15-2007, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by B-Dawk

It seems like McFadden disappears in some games

when? He's nearly unstoppable and it shows on that stat sheet week after week.

D-Unit · 10-15-2007, 01:27 AM

I think this the perfect thread to come up at a time when the guy has a great game. ...????? whatever.... I wanna see longevity. With his history of injury and his upright style, he won't last 5 years unless things change.

255979119 · 10-15-2007, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Woody56

Since I have been following the draft closely (2001), I would say Peterson is the best RB prospect ever.

Because we all know those guys in the hall of fame were undrafted crap bags....

Turtlepower · 10-15-2007, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Woody56

Since I have been following the draft closely (2001), I would say Peterson is the best RB prospect ever.

Jim Brown
Barry Sanders
Walter Payton
Eric Dickerson
Ricky Williams
Edgerrin James
OJ Simpson

All of those are better RB prospects that Peterson.

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Originally Posted by D-Unit

I think this the perfect thread to come up at a time when the guy has a great game. ...????? whatever.... I wanna see longevity. With his history of injury and his upright style, he won't last 5 years unless things change.

That was exactly what I was thinking. Peterson's biggest knock was injury concerns and they won't show up for probably some time.

D-Unit · 10-15-2007, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Turtlepower

That was exactly what I was thinking. Peterson's biggest knock was injury concerns and they won't show up for probably some time.

Remember the Jamal Lewis threads when he broke the record??? LOL. Fickle fans.

Turtlepower · 10-15-2007, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by D-Unit

Remember the Jamal Lewis threads when he broke the record??? LOL. Fickle fans.

I was ready to kill every analyst who thought Jamal Lewis was a top-10 RB of all-time for that one season. Didn't he have nearly 300 yards against the Browns and was getting tremendous hype from it. He did have a great season, but obviously his injury concerns have caught up to him.

My biggest surprise with Peterson this year is how well he has caught the ball in the backfield. He has remarkably nice hands and a very quick turn up field, which is something that many RBs often lack.

I'm still afraid that Childress might end up hurting AD with his workload. It's never a good thing to overwork an injury prone back.

big daddy russ · 10-15-2007, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Turtlepower

Jim Brown
Barry Sanders
Walter Payton
Eric Dickerson
Ricky Williams
Edgerrin James
OJ Simpson

All of those are better RB prospects that Peterson.

That was exactly what I was thinking. Peterson's biggest knock was injury concerns and they won't show up for probably some time.

Better pros? Yeah.

Better prospects? ROFLMAO.

I've been on AD's jock since he was in HS, but he's a better prospect than Williams and James for sure. For those who don't know, the whole reason Polian drafted James over Williams was because James had better hands and was a better fit for the offense they were running, not necessarily because he was the better prospect.

The only prospects on that list who were on AD's level were Sanders, Dickerson, and OJ.

The ones you left off who were better pure prospects than those guys were the Kansas Comet, Billy Sims, and Earl Campbell.

Jim Brown was good out of college, but I doubt anyone knew what he'd become. He was a FB at Syracuse, but became a TB in the pros.

Honestly, if you gave me game tape of all these guys you just said and told me to rank them, I'd put Payton, Dickerson, and OJ on AD's level. Nobody else. AD has Williams' strength, patience, and burst, but is MUCH quicker, faster, and has better hands. Quickness and hands were Edge's strengths over Williams, but AD's quicker. May not have the hands, but he's definitely quicker.

He may be injury-prone, but that kid can play football. Like I've said a hundred times, he was every bit as good as Calvin Johnson. Light years ahead of everyone else taken in front of him and a much better prospect IMO than Reggie Bush (though I was never big on RB as a football player, just thought he was a great athlete that didn't have the skills to translate to the next level). Maybe now everyone else will see what I see when I watch AD.

He may be the next Dickerson, or he may be a more injury-prone Gale Sayers, but he'll be the most feared RB in the NFL (and yes, I'm including LT) within the next three years.

Woody56 · 10-15-2007, 03:35 AM

After seeing my post i worded it incorrectly, I meant since 01 Peterson is the best prospect i've seen.

Paranoidmoonduck · 10-15-2007, 03:38 AM

I definitely think that Peterson's recent success is coloring this a bit. As a prospect, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if McFadden surpasses the prospect profile of Adrian Peterson. I think that Peterson had (and still has) a hint of injury concern around him, and I think that McFadden is the smoother runner with tendency to avoid more violent collisions.

I have no idea who will have the better or longer NFL career, but I do think that McFadden will be more generally regarded next April than Peterson was last April.

big daddy russ · 10-15-2007, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by D-Unit

I think this the perfect thread to come up at a time when the guy has a great game. ...????? whatever.... I wanna see longevity. With his history of injury and his upright style, he won't last 5 years unless things change.

You didn't actually watch him much, did you? His upright style had nothing to do with his injuries. One was just a freak injury and the other was a high ankle sprain that prevented him from making his cuts. Still played in 11 of the 12 OU games the year he sprained his ankle.

The other was a dive into the end zone that broke his collarbone. And he came back for the bowl game even though he didn't have anything to prove to anyone.

Basically, to me it sounded like a huge smokescreen from NFL teams. I don't know what they were actually thinking, but as a guy who's seen his fair share of running backs from the other side of the LOS, Peterson easily ranks as the single back I'd never want to see. As tough as Earl Campbell between the tackles, as quick as Marshall Faulk, as fast as anyone, the only thing you may be able to knock would be his hands, but they're slightly better than average.

I'll get off my high horse now.

Freddy G · 10-15-2007, 08:11 AM

Clearly Peterson IMO, if we are talking purely in prospect terms. The only thing Dmac clearly has over Peterson are less injury questions, but even then iirc Dmac has had couple minor, though simi-nagging, injuries. Its possible that Dmac has more top end speed, but AD is more explosive and has a better burst.

And from a personal standpoint, i just like ADs more physical running style more, Dmac can't run in between the tackles like AD could. Also, i am not sure if there has ever been a running back with the flat out pure natural ball carrying ability that AD has (like, sanders, payton, allen esque..), i guess it is called the "it" factor, and i am not convinced Dmc has it.

Sniper · 10-15-2007, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.

when? He's nearly unstoppable and it shows on that stat sheet week after week.

17 carries, 43 yards, 0 TDs vs. Auburn this week.

vatech=accdomination · 10-15-2007, 08:38 AM

dmac has alot to prove in the nfl, i dont think his tackle breaking ability is on par with petersons.

BuddyCHRIST · 10-15-2007, 10:05 AM

This thread being at this time shows how short sighted people are being. AP had an amazing game and D-Mac struggled against Auburn. That's one game, throughout his career DMac has tore up top SEC teams... Auburn last year, LSU last year, Kentucky and Bama this year. To say he dissapears is ridiculous, it was one game. No one questioned Peterson's ability, it was just his ability to stay healthy over a 16 game season, which still hasn't been answered. I think very few people doubted that he had the physical ability to be an impact player.

You saying that Peterson's lower center of gravity makes him a better prospect is just completely wrong, they run almost identical, and if anything this year McFadden has started getting his pads lower. Both of them hit defenders with their elbows and knee's.

McFadden actually looks faster in pads than Peterson and burst? Look at Dmac's 80 yard run against a NFL stacked LSU defense last year, where they were all about a foot away from him and 3 yards later he's got them smoked.

I don't mean to knock Peterson because I too think he was one of the best RB prospects ever but McFadden is clearly at his level if not above it. He's got just as good of physical tools and has been more consistently productive playing against higher level of competition.

CARDIAC CAT 7 · 10-15-2007, 11:00 AM

Dont forget that Minne has one of the best Run Blocking Lines 3 Pro Bowlers (Birk, Hutchinson, McKinnie) and two road graders (Cook, Hicks). I think hes a great runner but that O-Line is a big reason why his numbers are that way. Marshawn Lynch runs behind a patchwork line with a star left tackle.(Peters). A big reason why Lynch was rated equal even higher for some is who knows how long Adrian will be running, he has durablility problems, let see if he can finish the season off the IR.