Is there a new #1 Safety in the NFL this year? - Page 3

SeanTaylorRIP · 10-19-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fenikz

That hit was as clean as can be it may of been a little too hard but this is football let the boys play

Since when is a forearm to the head legal??? It was clearly seen, you can never forearm anyone in the head especially a receiver going down the middle. It was a bonehead play with a game on the line, he knows the rules he just wanted to knock out the receiver, but trust me forearm to the head is not a legal hit which is why it was a flag, you may not agree with the rule, but it's a clearly written and understood rule, he just got carried away with going for a kill shot rather than making a hit, and sucks for Cardinals it had to happen on the most important play of the game.

TimD · 10-19-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fenikz

for this season Taylor is being a beast but as an overall safety i think it still goes like this

RHODES
Reed
Wilson
Polamalu
Sanders
Taylor

fixed it for you

... jk

no love · 10-19-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver

Which is why Ed Reed is overrated as a cover safety. He gets interceptions, but what you don't see on the highlights is a WR beating him deep. Last year it happened on numerous occasions that I saw. Two in particular: TJ Houshmandzadeh and Steve Smith got long touchdowns because Ed Reed tried to pull off one of his 'ball-hawk' plays and the offense tricked him.

Just to make things clear... I think Ed Reed is a great player and would jump at the chance to get him on the Falcons. That said a lot of people ignore that his risky play leads to big plays for the offense. It's a calculated risk and sometimes he gets burned.

As a playmaker, you have to guess and there are times that everyone guesses wrong. All good safetys take calculated risks, but his range is what sets him apart. He can make the plays that no one else in the league can make.

Said Trent Dilfer about the interception that Ed Reed made, "The interception was a '6' route. It was an underneath route where (Reed) is playing the middle of the field. I have to look at the '6' because it is a 'press, bump and run.' I think it's (pass interference) and then he intercepts the '6' route coming from the middle of the field. I've never seen that happen in 14 years."

I voted Reed, but it's so close its like splitting hairs.

eaglesfan_45 · 10-19-2007, 06:42 PM

Sean Taylor is really coming in to his own this year and is finally living up to the expectations set for him. Over the next few years can you imagine what a challlenge playing against Laron Landry and Sean Taylor is going to be. In about 3 seasons when Landry starts to come into his own and Sean playing in his prime recievers are going to take beatings.

Mr. Stiller · 10-19-2007, 06:53 PM

It's near impossible to compare SS and FS in this league.

Seriously. Polamalu and Wilson are amazing SS, while Reed and Taylor are probably the league best FS.

The responsibilities vary in schemes. I personally think Polamalu is the best SS and Sean Taylor is finally living up to the hype.

bigbluedefense · 10-19-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Turtlepower

He gets so many knocks on him because he has been hyped up so much, but I would still be happy to have him on the Giants. I would take him any day of the week over Wilson and Butler.

There is no way in blue hell I would want Roy Williams on the Giants. Never. Especially with our scheme in place, we might as well put a cement block out there.

Hell, sometimes I look at him play and I think Gibril Wilson is better. And Im not even a Gibril Wilson fan. That just tells you what I think of Roy Williams, but he's a subject thats been beaten to death.

As for the topic on hand, you gotta say that Reed is the best based on tenior, but this year Sean Taylor has been outperforming everybody.

bigbluedefense · 10-19-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

Kerry Rhodes is so good but the general crappiness of his team overshadows how great of a player he could be shining somewhere else.

Rhodes is one of my favorite SS in the league.

Shiver · 10-19-2007, 08:11 PM

Rhodes is very good, but I wouldn't put him in the same league as Adrian Wilson and Troy Polamalu.

bigbluedefense · 10-19-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver

Rhodes is very good, but I wouldn't put him in the same league as Adrian Wilson and Troy Polamalu.

I don't know, id think that in a similar role, he can do a standup job comparable to those 2. He's really been held back this year because of the issues on defense for the Jets.

But I do love Wilson and Polumalu. Polumalu is perfect for his Xbacker role in LeBeau's scheme.

Basileus777 · 10-19-2007, 08:39 PM

Much is made of Roy Williams' coverage problems (and rightly so), but what I've noticed is that he isn't even the force against the run that he used to be.

EdReedUnstoppable · 10-19-2007, 09:06 PM

Ed Reed is still the best safety in the game! 4 INTS to match Taylor's

remix 6 · 10-19-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

Much is made of Roy Williams' coverage problems (and rightly so), but what I've noticed is that he isn't even the force against the run that he used to be.

hes an overrated hitter too. a lot of his tackles are crappy/cheap.

as a big hitter against Patriots..i expected some knockouts but he pulled Watson down from side/behind and landed on his ankle while going down with him. he was very low on Brady's knees as a blitzer. him and Ken Hamlin were terrible in coverage

that adds to him getting fined again for a horse collar which put a few players out few seasons ago.

i dont recall seeing too many BIG hits by Roy Williams.

Shiver · 10-19-2007, 10:43 PM

remix, just look at my sig quote...

Average OT LB · 10-19-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EdReedUnstoppable

Ed Reed is still the best safety in the game! 4 INTS to match Taylor's

So how would you answer those whipsers about him being one of the most overrated players in football..

Average OT LB · 10-19-2007, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

I don't know, id think that in a similar role, he can do a standup job comparable to those 2. He's really been held back this year because of the issues on defense for the Jets.

But I do love Wilson and Polumalu. Polumalu is perfect for his Xbacker role in LeBeau's scheme.

I agree i like rhodes alot. But like vilma, who is to say that they're great and on bad defenses, or if they are just good players who get stats because they're the only ones there..

Its a wierd argument, but its feasible. I'd relate it to a steve smith vs chad johnson argument as to who is better. Smith is all by himself while chad fights TJ for the ball. Smith has to do it all by himself while TJ helps out chad. There doesnt seem to be a true answer, but its undeniable that they're all good players.

703SKINS202 · 10-20-2007, 11:58 AM

how does roy williams have 4 votes, let alone any?

scottyboy · 10-20-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 703SKINS202

how does roy williams have 4 votes, let alone any?

blind homerism. something you should know a bit about

703SKINS202 · 10-20-2007, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by scottyboy

blind homerism. something you should know a bit about

haha loser wow

scottyboy · 10-20-2007, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 703SKINS202

haha loser wow

I'm a loser baby, so why dontcha kill me?- ahh i really like that song

oh and Sanders is an animal, he should be getting more votes

oldLibid21 · 10-20-2007, 12:15 PM

I voted Bob Sanders. He's got the most impact on that defense besides Freeney, and he has an amazing talent in helping stop the run. The only thing that's keeping him from separating from the pack is his size and his durability.

Addict · 10-20-2007, 12:54 PM

there's a lot of really really good ones, so far this season Sean Taylor's been the best, career-wise I'd say either Ed Reed or Adrian Wilson (he embodies the Cards D)

jkpigskin · 10-20-2007, 03:06 PM

i have been really impressed by the play of sean taylor and adrian wilson
but of course, i think ed reed is the biggest playmaker and best player at the saftey position

bored of education · 10-20-2007, 08:46 PM

I think Taylor has solidified that he wasn't all hype. Its a toss up to me as who is number one Reed or Taylor. I will make a final judgement end of season. But some safeties I have been impressed with this year include Tanard Jackson, Marlon McCree, Jim Leonhard, and I think CC Brown has been solid for Houston. OF Course Sean JOnes is SICK nice, Page and Pollard killing it

SeanTaylorRIP · 10-20-2007, 08:49 PM

The scary thing is that I think Sean Taylor still hasn't realized his full potential yet. In 2-3 years he could be an absolutely dominant force like few we have seen before him. He really has had an attitude change since his legal troubles. He is humble on the field hardly even celebrating after big plays like he used to, he just seems mature and focused on football.

bored of education · 10-20-2007, 08:52 PM

He does have a better sense of where to be on the field. I also think he has harnessed some that potential and their is more that will surface the more he plays.