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i don't think it's too unlikely. sunderland at home is no easy fixture for the spurs. man city and newcastle both have the edge. i admit i haven't seen cisse play yet but wow he is quite something. 9 in 8 is really something. rvp who next year.
To sum up Cisse, i'd say... Instinctive, hard working, play linking, poacher. He scores with his head, from distance and from tap in's. Theres not much he cant do tbh and i wouldnt be surprised if he was one of the top scorers next year.
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Papiss just scores, just a great, great finisher in any situation.
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He will be bought off by some other teams
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For 30 million yeah! We'd be fine without him, he's more of a luxury. But a ******* sexy luxury.
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He will be bought off by some other teams
Well, I can't see him having a release clause, so worst case scenario is we get a cool 30 million pounds and buy 3 new world class players.

Btw, woot, "We're in the top five, Jose Enrique, we're in the top five" was the chant ringing around Wales this afternoon.
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Wait until you lose Demba, Papiss, Cabaye
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Well, I can't see him having a release clause, so worst case scenario is we get a cool 30 million pounds and buy 3 new world class players.

Btw, woot, "We're in the top five, Jose Enrique, we're in the top five" was the chant ringing around Wales this afternoon.


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Wait until you lose Demba, Papiss, Cabaye
That would suck. I'm betting we hold onto everyone but maybe Demba so long as we make Europe. If we somehow finish top 4, I doubt anyone leaves unless Ashley accepts another Godfather offer.
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Wait until you lose Demba, Papiss, Cabaye
With 60 million we could buy 11 world class players, Liverpool however would waste 60 mill on a useless lanky **** and a dirty racist **** ('c' word)
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I'm sorry SP how much cups do you have ? oh right.
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The Carling Cup shouldn't even be classed as a cup.
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I'm sorry 18 league titles, seven FA cups, eight league cups, fifteen community shield

How about Newcastle ? :)
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Oh **** that's right you weren't born in 69...
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I gotta say I'm really glad Cisse landed with a team he's had success with. I'm still surprised Bayern let him leave the Bundesliga, but they like Gomez a lot more than I do...
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He and Gomez are similar in my opinion. Both are just absolute goal scoring machines, but aren't elite running with the ball.
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I hate football :(

If I was running Liverpool (obviously a pipe dream!) I'd sell or retire off all of the following:

Doni
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Glen Johnson (I could live with keeping him, but with Kelly and Flanagan behind him take the money and sell high)
Adam
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Maxi
Shelvey (on loan to Championship for the experience / fitness)
Carroll

And my ideal team would be a simple 4-4-2 diamond

GK - Reina / New Signing

DL - Enrique / Jack Robinson
DC - Agger / Coates
DC - Skrtel / Coates
DR - Kelly / Flanagan

DMC - Lucas / Spearing
MR - New Signing / Kuyt / Sterling
ML - New Signing / Downing / Sterling
AMC - Gerrard / Pacheco

ST - Suarez / Bellamy
ST - New Signing / New Signing

Raise a butt load of funds by selling off the crap, sign a new winger until Raheem Sterling is ready, sign a striker who can actually move and shoot and get Lucas playing regularly in the destroyer / distributer role and we'll be much improved.
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He and Gomez are similar in my opinion. Both are just absolute goal scoring machines, but aren't elite running with the ball.
Yeah, that's why I thought Cisse would be a great replacement, he's of similar class as an end station but is a lot better than gomez with the ball at his feet, neither is elite with the ball, but Gomez is pretty useless outside the box, Cisse was at least class at playing give and goes in the build-up and slipping the ball to his team-mates in space before attacking the box. He was just the perfect cross of Olic and Gomez for that Bayern squad and if they had him in Gomez' place that'd be the best offense in the world.
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Yeah, that's why I thought Cisse would be a great replacement, he's of similar class as an end station but is a lot better than gomez with the ball at his feet, neither is elite with the ball, but Gomez is pretty useless outside the box, Cisse was at least class at playing give and goes in the build-up and slipping the ball to his team-mates in space before attacking the box. He was just the perfect cross of Olic and Gomez for that Bayern squad and if they had him in Gomez' place that'd be the best offense in the world.
Hmmm....I don't know if I rate him as highly as Gomez. Gomez's goal scoring record is nothing short of incredibile. I haven't seen as much of Cisse as you though (although I did see him in Germany on a few occasions) and his service was spotty at Freiburg, but I still wouldn't swap Gomez for Cisse if I'm Bayern. Now, once you factor in that Bayern probably profits 15-20 million GBP on the deal then you probably do it, but just as players I don't make the swap. Not yet anyway.
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Hmmm....I don't know if I rate him as highly as Gomez. Gomez's goal scoring record is nothing short of incredibile. I haven't seen as much of Cisse as you though (although I did see him in Germany on a few occasions) and his service was spotty at Freiburg, but I still wouldn't swap Gomez for Cisse if I'm Bayern. Now, once you factor in that Bayern probably profits 15-20 million GBP on the deal then you probably do it, but just as players I don't make the swap. Not yet anyway.
I won't deny that I hate Gomez a lot more than he probably deserves, and only part of it is how his goal-scoring instincts have absolutely disappeared while wearing the national jersey. But I really feel like the biggest difference between the two over the past two years has been the balls played into them as that lets Gomez stay in his effective area a lot more than Cisse got to for Freiburg, where Gomez knows that hovering around the box will get him a good ball to make a play on Cisse had to pay more attention to the ball and positioning himself so that the ball could be played to him more easily.

Plus I feel the difference in the aspects of their game other than the goal scoring is a lot bigger than any minor goal scoring advantage Gomez might have. Bayern were a tougher team to play against with Olic than with Gomez two years ago, before Olic got hurt and Gomez started scoring goals in damn near every game. Having a striker that can drop into the play and not lose or misplay the ball really opened up their trio of Ribery, Robben and Mueller by drawing defenders out of position and creating space, those guys saw many more scoring chances two years ago than they do now that they always have Gomez and the two CBs covering him packing the box.
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I'm sorry 18 league titles, seven FA cups, eight league cups, fifteen community shield

How about Newcastle ? :)
Its easy to pick a historically good team to support and then brag about how much they have won...

How many of those were you actually a Liverpool fan for?

Im talking about now, right now Newcastle are better than Liverpool. The fact that you brag about trophies Liverpool won when you weren't born or a fan shows you only support them because of their previous glory.
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Old 04-07-2012, 10:19 AM    (permalink
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Its easy to pick a historically good team to support and then brag about how much they have won...

How many of those were you actually a Liverpool fan for?

Im talking about now, right now Newcastle are better than Liverpool. The fact that you brag about trophies Liverpool won when you weren't born or a fan shows you only support them because of their previous glory.
thtas such a horrible argument
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BS Chelsea goal.....
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BS Chelsea goal.....
Whats the score?
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