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Old 05-27-2013, 04:58 PM    (permalink
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Santana has a 1m release clause that Schalke, among others have triggered.

And yeah de Bruyne, Eriksen and Bernard all wrapped up for Dortmund is the popular rumor.
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I heard Eriksen to Liverpool, which makes no sense to me since we aren't in the CL, but tis the season for every rumour under the sun, fun to read but until I see the press conference I'll just laugh it off
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That's how I take em, especially when it comes to the EPL. There's far less media intensity on the BL so generally there's a lot less smoke being blown out of people's asses.
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Doing a 16 team draft on realgm, already picked Ilkay and Hummels *fistpump* I'm so going to love my team way more than anybody else.
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Kolo-Liverpool official, looks like Papadopoulos is next.
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If Fulham loses Frei and Kasami this summer, I will be furious. The team played so poorly after they hit the 40 point mark this spring. I just don't understand why Jol wouldn't give the young guys some time.

I believe they're the oldest team in the PL. Losing 2 of our most promising young players would be terrible. I could see Jol losing his job if they don't finish top 10 next season.
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Put this up in the giants forum but I love Kloppo way too much.

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So how good is the Belgium national team? Just trying to determine what to expect tonight.
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The entire nation of Belgium doesn't have a single capable true fullback, but the rest of their squad is very talented and they're more cohesive than they have been in decades.
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They are a good young squad I believe. I don't think Eden is going to be able to play tonight because of the hammy though. I'm interested in watching Courtois.
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I expect 3 or 4 -1 Belgium, even without Hazard.
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We are a great team and we're gonna destroy you !

We don't have a defining style of play but our coach is pushing the team to be strong, tough and show great abnegation. We don't shy away from the fight.

Our defense is solid and because we don't put true FB but converted CB (Vertonghen, Alderweireld) we are strong and good in the air but the defense can be slow. Kompany and Vermaelen are still great at anticipation and positionement so I'm fairly confident.
Our keepers are great, Courtois is a dominating modern keeper and Mignolet can be fairly effective. Kaminski may play but I don't have an opinion on him.

We have a strange but good midfield. They are great with the ball and have good pace, good passing sense, some of them are good shooters, but they are not all true midfielder. Dembele, Chadli, De Bruyne can play there but it's not there original position, Witsel play "6" when he can play "8" "10" or on the wing, Defour play "6" too but he is small even though he is a great passer, Fellaini can do it all but isn't that dominant, not fast enough as a "10", too good to be a "6", and we have a lot of great players who can be "8" so I'm not sure where he will play. There are games where our midfield was better without him.

They can control a game but can not win one.

We have the same offensive midfielders, they have different name and style, some are better at things than the others, but Hazard, Mertens, Mirallas, De Bruyne and Chadli are the kind of player who run a lot to tire the opposing defense and then we substitute one of them to finish the job. They are magnificent with the ball and infiltrate with ease. They are scoring threat and can give decisive passes.

Our attacker are strange, since our midfielder are so great we only put one striker and so they can be alone and disapear. They don't move enough IMO, and wait more for the ball than fight for it, they have to be accounted for but it's not like they can defeat the defense by themselve. They don't transform enough occasion than they could and the goals they score are nothing extraordinary. Lukaku, Benteke and Vossen all proved that they can score but the striker position is shaky.

We are dangerous on corner, have some good free-kick taker, and defending on stopped-phase used to be a weakness. We have big guys who are used to dominate the air and players who can deliver the ball so I'll say it should be a strong force but that is not always the case.

Since it's a preparation match we may see Thorgan Hazard, Maxime Lestienne at offensive midfield and as I said about this position, they are speedy, they are good with the ball, and they infiltrate.
Guillaume Gillet (strange player who play everywhere but hate to play RB even though he can be the n°1 RB with the national team) and Sebastien Pocognoli (the true LB who was never called) may play in our defense so the "no-FB" thing could be false.
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You mean like when Brazil won 4-1 in Maryland last year?
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Yeah don't compare them, Brazil isn't what it used to be, Belgium is a better team now.
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You've got to say that a team like that is impressive :
Courtois (keeper of the best Liga defense and Athletico/Chelsea)
Alderweireld (champion with Ajax) - Kompany (captain of Man City) - Vermaelen (captain of Arsenal) - Vertonghen (future captain of Totenham)
Witsel (champion with Zenith) - Fellaini (best player of Everton) - Dembele (starting midfielder of Totenham and replacment of Modric)
Hazard (one of the best player of Chelsea) - Lukaku (top striker of WBA/future star of Chelsea) - Mertens (best player of PSV)

subs like :
Mignolet (Sunderland's savior), Lombaerts (champion with Zenith), Defour (champion with Porto), Chadli (Twente), De Bruyne (Werder/future Chelsea's star), Mirallas (Everton), Benteke (best player and savior of Aston Villa), Nainggolan (Cagliari)
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This Brazil isn't far from this Belgium.
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Are we talking about 2002 Brazil or 2013 Brazil ?
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It isn't that close. Belgium definitely has much more talent that it has had in recent years. That being said, it is still a tier below the Brazils/Spains/Germanys of the world.
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Brazil is a tier below the Germany/Spains of the world.
I could certainly see that. Even so, Belgium would still be a tier below Brazil. Belgium is a good European squad, but not much more.
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You are really over-rating Brazil.
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You are really over-rating Brazil.
I agree wholeheartedly. I still think they will have a good showing at the WC being at home, but talent wise they just aren't all that great right now.
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Haters gon hate on Belgium. I love almost all of their players.
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Agreed on the over-rating of Brazil. They are on the same tier. Which is still a few tiers below the top IMHO.

"Favorites" tier: Spain and Germany
"Contenders" tier: Argentina, Portugal, Italy, Croatia, and Holland
"Pseudo-contenders": England, Columbia, and France
"Competitive" tier: Brazil, Ecuador, Greece, Belgium, Mexico, Uruguay

That being said the United States is in the "Qualifying fodder" tier this WC. Every now and again we'll bump a tier or two up and be "Round of 16" tier but that certainly isn't the case this year.

Aside from the above I love 90% of Belgium's roster and will probably be my "non citizenship" team this World Cup :) I am obligated to root for the United States and England or may be disowned by my family.
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