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Old 05-29-2013, 05:37 PM    (permalink
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Agreed on the over-rating of Brazil. They are on the same tier. Which is still a few tiers below the top IMHO.

"Favorites" tier: Spain and Germany
"Contenders" tier: Argentina, Portugal, Italy, Croatia, and Holland
"Pseudo-contenders": England, Columbia, and France
"Competitive" tier: Brazil, Ecuador, Greece, Belgium, Mexico, Uruguay

That being said the United States is in the "Qualifying fodder" tier this WC. Every now and again we'll bump a tier or two up and be "Round of 16" tier but that certainly isn't the case this year.

Aside from the above I love 90% of Belgium's roster and will probably be my "non citizenship" team this World Cup :) I am obligated to root for the United States and England or may be disowned by my family.
Favorites: Spain, Germany
Contenders: Brazil, Argentina, France, Italy
Competitive: Holland, Belgium, Portugal, England

Brazil's clearly underrated here. Perhaps some are simply tired of the fact that they've disappointed for the past decade in spite of their talent. But that talent nonetheless still remains, and while a lot of it is young, to pass off any of their future success at the WC as "home field advantage" is foolish.

Croatia a contender? Because of their world ranking? Outside of their midfield, they're decidedly average. In their midfield, the only true "star" quality player would be Modric, and that's honestly drawing from his reputation from his Tottenham days, as he's been disappointment this year for Madrid (I know he improved towards the end). Mandzukic is their only other notable player. They'll put up a decent showing and could certainly surprise a team or two, but they are certainly not serious contenders for the title.
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Trog's rankings are very questionable/ quite bad imo, but Brazil is still pretty meh.
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Favorites: Spain, Germany
Contenders: Brazil, Argentina, France, Italy
Competitive: Holland, Belgium, Portugal, England

Brazil's clearly underrated here. Perhaps some are simply tired of the fact that they've disappointed for the past decade in spite of their talent. But that talent nonetheless still remains, and while a lot of it is young, to pass off any of their future success at the WC as "home field advantage" is foolish.

Croatia a contender? Because of their world ranking? Outside of their midfield, they're decidedly average. In their midfield, the only true "star" quality player would be Modric, and that's honestly drawing from his reputation from his Tottenham days, as he's been disappointment this year for Madrid (I know he improved towards the end). Mandzukic is their only other notable player. They'll put up a decent showing and could certainly surprise a team or two, but they are certainly not serious contenders for the title.
You clearly don't know anything about this Croatian team. Rakitic, Srna, Kalinic, Jelavic, Perisic, Kovacic and such are notable players.
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Croatia? And I can't agree with putting a rebuilding Dutch side ahead of Brazil, Belgium, Colombia or France.

Germany / Spain

Italy / Portugal / Argentina

Brazil / Belgium / France / Colombia / Maybe the dutch or Russia if they keep kicking as in qualifying and their young stars have big seasons next year.

England / Ivory Coast / Russia / The Dutch / Mexico / Japan / Uruguay / Croatia / Switzerland / etc.
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You clearly don't know anything about this Croatian team. Rakitic, Srna, Kalinic, Jelavic, Perisic, Kovacic and such are notable players.
Notable by what definition? I don't think anyone would rate any of the names you mentioned as being more than decent at the time being. When compared to the players that fill out the starting lineups of teams such as Germany, Spain, France, Italy, etc., they're nothing to write home about.

Also, Belgium is so obviously outclassing the US.
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Belgium is better, so that is expected. US hasn't looked that bad though.
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Belgium is better, so that is expected. US hasn't looked that bad though.
See. I told you. For having 4 CB, Belgium has not done well attacking balls in the box.
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That's a nice way to make up for terrible defense on the Belgian goal.
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I like the way Lukaku is playing so fat, nice movements, he is making himself available and dangerous.
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Lukaku is better than Benteke. Hopefully Belgium figures that out soon.
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Jozy needs to show some damn confidence.
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Yeah we have one true FB on the field, always liked Pocognoli and never understood why he was never called.
That suck for Thomas though.
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Fortunate half for the US and a good response after a real tough early going.

Maybe a PK for Belgium and I thought the Lukaku goal was pretty close to on.
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All things considered, especially that Belgium is far more talented, the US hasn't looked half bad...so far.
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Terrible defending. Bleh.
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Not a beautiful goal, and it's a shame that Benteke is the one scorring but I'll take it. it's USA's fault
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This team needs to learn how to clear the damn ball.
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Well, the Belgians have stopped ******* around.
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Very questionable penalty. Nice shot by Dempsey though.
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Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin.  One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one.  Awesome.  Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks. 
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