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Spain 2018

GK De Gea (27) / Joel (27)

RB Carvajal (26) / Azpilicueta (28) / Montoya (27)
CB Pique (31) / Inigo Martinez (27) / Bartra (27)
CB Ramos (32) / Javi Martinez (29) / Dominguez (29)
LB Albi (29) / Monreal (32) / Aurtenetxe (26)

MF Biscuits (29) / Javi (29) / Illarramendi (28)
MF Cesc (31) / Isco (26) / Romeu (26)
MF Thiago (27) / Koke (26) / Suso (24)

FW Isco (26) / Jese (25) / Tello (26) / Munian (25)
ST Jese? (25) / Rodrigo (27) / Morata (25)
FW Mata (30) / Deulofeu (24)



Germany 2018

GK Neuer (32) / ter Stegen (26)

RB Jung (27) / Jantschke (28)
CB Hummels (29) / Kolasinac (24) / Gunter (23) / Sarr (23)
CB Wollscheid (29) / Ginter (24) / Boateng (29)
LB Dudziak (22) / Oczipka (29)

DLP Gundogan (27) / Kroos (28) / Holtby (27)
B2B Lars Bender (29) / Goretzka (23) / Can (24)

RW Muller (28) / Meyer (22) / Bittencourt (24) / Younes (24)
AM Ozil (29) / Gotze (25)
LW Draxler (24) / Schurrle (27) / Herrmann (27)
ST Reus (29) / Volland (25) / Kruse (30) / Parker (25) / Yesil (23)



Italy 2018

GK Sirigu (31) / Perrin (25)

RB De Sciglio (25) / Abate (31)
CB Ogbonna (30) / Caldirola (27) / Capuano (26)
CB Bonucci (31) / Astori (31)
LB Santon (27) / Criscito (31)

MF Veratti (25)
MF Poli (28) / Florenzi (27)
MF Marronne (28) / Marchisio (32) / Crisetig (25)

FW Insigne (27) / Destro (27)
ST Balotelli (27) / Immobile (28)
FW El Sharaawy (25) / Borini (27)



Netherlands 2018

GK Krul (30) / Zoet (27)

RB van Rhijn (26) / Janmaat (28)
CB De Vrij (26) / Vlaar (33) / Bruma (26)
CB Douglas (30) / Indi (26)
LB Blind (28) / Willems (24) / Pieters (29)

MF Strootman (28) / Clasie (26)
MF Van Ginkel (25) / Vilhena (23) / Fer (28) / De Guzman (30)
MF Maher (24) / Siem de Jong (29)

RW Narsingh (27) / Wijnaldum (27)
ST Luuk de Jong (27) / Castaignos (25) / Dost (29)
LW John (26) / Depay (24)



Belgium in 2018

GK Courtois (26) / Mignolet (31) / Casteels (25)

RB Alderwiereld (29) / Ozturk (24) / Boyata (27)
CB Vertonghen (31) / Vermaelen (32) / de Bock (25)
CB Kompany (32) / Arslanagic (25)
LB Lukaku (23) / Pocognoli (31)

MF Witsel (29) / Malanda (23) / Defour (30)
MF Dembele (30) / Nainggolan (30)
MF de Bruyne (26) / Praet (24)

RW Bruno (24) / Ferreirra-Carrasco (24) / Chadli (28)
ST Lukaku (25) / Benteke (27)
LW Hazard (27) / Lestienne (25) / Mertens (31)



Russia

GK Akinfeev (32) / Zabolotnyi (28) / Lobantsev (22)
RB Parshivlyuk (29) / Logashov (26)
CB Burlak (28)
CB Belyaev (26) / Bryzgalov (26) / Gadzhibekov (28) / Parshivlyuk
LB Shennikov (27) / Makeev (28)

MF Ozdoev (25) / Pertov (27) / Glushakov (31)
MF Shatov (27) / Mamaev (29) / Fayzulin (32) / Ambartsumyan (24)
MF Dzagoev (27) / Shatov (27)

FW Cheryshev (27) / Panyukov (23)
ST Kokorin (27) / Serderov (24) / Dzyuba (29)
FW Smolov (28) / Yakovlev (27)



Denmark 2018

GK Schmeichel (31) / Radza (24) / Korch (23)

RB Wass (29) / Holst (23)
CB Okore (25)
CB Sorensen (26) / Bjelland (29) / Vestergaard (25) / Christensen (22)
LB Boilesen (26) / Da Silva (23)

MF Olsen (24) / Albaek (28) / Kvist (33)
MF Hjolberg (22)
MF Eriksen (26)

FW Anderson (23) / Jorgensen (27) / Kusk (26) / Larsen (26)
ST Cornelius (25) / Helenius (27) / Zohore (24) / Poulsen (23)
FW Fischer (23)
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How good are those fullbacks? I don't know much about them. I think that's the only spot where they might be lacking. Also, no Badstuber in there? Worried about his injury history?

Also, that midfield + forward group = wow.
Jung had a break out year with frankfurt as the rampaging fullback provided a lot of skill on the ball and excellent crossing with the speed and work rate to fly up and down the pitch. I don't see Lahm potential in him, but a Pisczek-esque peak can absolutely be on the cards for him. Jantschke is a more defensive option, he's an excellent defender, and isn't weak on the ball like Schmelzer when he does get forward, he just plays very conservatively on his flank.

Dudziak is the big star FB in Germany though. He's only 17, and plays a lot of CM for BVBII, but looks like Germany's David Alaba and is always one of the best players on the pitch when he plays LB for the national youth teams. I have very high expectations for him and think he could even push for a spot as a 20 year old at the euros in 2016. Oczipka is Jung's partner in crime for Frankfurt, he's a little more defensive and less talented on the ball, although he also hits very good crosses.

As for Badstuber, it's a combination of things, 1 I rate Wollscheid very highly and have no clue why jogi doesn't play him next to Hummels, even without Bads' injury Wollscheid is just better. Boateng has a higher ceiling than Bads as he's quicker, stronger and better at last ditch tackles, and then you add that our top 3 teenage CBs all have the talent to reach Hummels level, with Ginter, Gunter and Kolasinac, and I really think that if Jogi doesn't stay past the WC and reintegrate Bads for the Euros, his time with the NT may be up.

The attack and midfield are really loaded, and with teenagers like Goretzka, Draxler, Meyer, Can, Yesil and Werner, there's plenty more in the pipeline.

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I like it. I think there's a spot in there for Lorenzo Crisetig somewhere, though. Bright young talent.
Yeah, that attacking line is very strong for Veratti and co to feed, especially with their gifted FBs pushing up in support. This next italian generation have a lot to offer.
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Belgium 2018

GK : Thibaut Courtois (26) | Simon Mignolet (29) | Koen Casteels (25)
RB : Toby Alderweireld (29) | Dedryck Boyata (27)
CB : Dino Arslanagic (25) | Vincent Kompany (32)
CB : Jan Vertonghen (31) | Thomas Vermaelen (32) | Laurens De Bock (25)
LB : Jordan Lukaku (23) | Sebastien Pocognoli (30)

MF : Junior Malanda (23) | Marouane Fellaini (30) | Steven Defour (30) | Radja Nainggolan (30)
MF : Kevin De Bruyne (26) | Denis Praet (24) | Hannes van der Bruggen (25) | Nacer Chadli (28)
MF : Axel Witsel (29) | Moussa Dembele (30) | Charly Musonda Jr (21)

RW : Massimo Bruno (24) | Thorgan Hazard (25) | Paul-Jose M'Poku (26) | Thomas Meunier (26) | Kevin Mirallas (30)
ST : Romelu Lukaku (25) | Cristian Benteke (27) | Michy Batshuayi (24) | Gianni Bruno (26)
LW : Eden Hazard (27) | Maxime Lestienne (25) | Anthony Limbombe (23) | Dries Mertens (31)

We are good with Thibaut Courtois he's going to be the best keeper in the world.

I'm not sure about the futur of our defense especialy with the FB but Meunier is absolutely not a RB that's for sure. Dino Laurens and Jordan are on the list but they are not sure things. There are some others promising players but I can't put them on this list yet, if nobody develop, we are going to have an awful defense but on the other side, we are good at forming CB.

We can have a good midfield in the future, we are still young (De Bruyne may be the futur star of the midfield) and the up-and-commer Praet, Malanda, van der Bruggen and Musonda can be our future. Some players are promising but haven't show anything so I didn't mentioned them.

The bright spot is going to be the attack, we are loaded at these positions and we may become a scary team.
Eden and Romelu are going to destroy everybody, especialy if they play together at Chelsea until 2018.
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Was hoping you could come in and correct me, but is de Bock's future not at LB either? That's a player I thought I'd watched before. :-/
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Was hoping you could come in and correct me, but is de Bock's future not at LB either? That's a player I thought I'd watched before. :-/
You were not wrong, De Bock can play at LB, but I think he'll want to be a CB.
I don't know what's the best option for him or if he'll even be good, but he'll have the opportunity to prove himself and if he fullfill his potential he can be Alderweireld/Lombaerts good.

And Meunier played one or two game at RB but everybody agreed that was an aberation. He can play on the wing and at the number 10 position but I'm not sure what his ideal position will be. He has time to develop and I realy like him but the offensive places of our national team are going to be hard to get, competition will be elevated.
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Russia

GK Akinfeev (32) / Zabolotnyi (28)
RB Parshivlyuk (29) / Logashov (26)
CB Burlak (28)
CB Belyaev (26) / Bryzgalov (26) / Gadzhibekov (28) / Parshivlyuk
LB Shennikov (27) / Makeev (28)

MF Ozdoev (25) / Glushakov (31) / Pertov (27)
MF Shatov (27) / Mamaev (29) / Fayzulin (32) / Ambartsumyan (24)
MF Dzagoev (27)

FW Cheryshev (27) / Panyukov (23)
ST Kokorin (27) / Dzyuba (29)
FW Smolov (28) / Yakovlev (27)
Great job. I agree for that most part.

Serder Serderov and Alexander Kozlov both have a ton of potential. I'd like to see them get more playing time for Anji and Spartak respectively next season.

17-year Lokomotiv goaltender Lobantsev looked like a heck of a prospect last season.
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You were not wrong, De Bock can play at LB, but I think he'll want to be a CB.
I don't know what's the best option for him or if he'll even be good, but he'll have the opportunity to prove himself and if he fullfill his potential he can be Alderweireld/Lombaerts good.

And Meunier played one or two game at RB but everybody agreed that was an aberation. He can play on the wing and at the number 10 position but I'm not sure what his ideal position will be. He has time to develop and I realy like him but the offensive places of our national team are going to be hard to get, competition will be elevated.
Ah, gotcha was stepping outside my knowledge to fill out that D for you guys, but if he could become an Alderweireld or Howedes type character who plays CB at club level and FB for the NT that could be a big boon for you guys, assuming Lukaku's little bro doesn't make that spot his own.

And Meunier I've never even seen play but he sounds a little like Mitch Weiser who Bayern was toying with as a RB before he got a loan to the second BuLi where he could move back to the wing.

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Great job. I agree for that most part.

Serder Serderov and Alexander Kozlov both have a ton of potential. I'd like to see them get more playing time for Anji and Spartak respectively next season.

17-year Lokomotiv goaltender Lobantsev looked like a heck of a prospect last season.
Dunno if I see it with Kozlov, but Serderov should probably be ahead of Dzyuba, who I'm constantly underwhelmed by, just totally spazzed out on taht one.

Haven't noticed Lobantsev before but it's good to know Akinfeev's spiritual successor is out there.
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Dunno if I see it with Kozlov
His talent is impressive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftjZyrehUMM

Still falls in love with his dribble a bit too much, but he is still very young.
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His dribbling, size and that #49 do make one think to ananidze, but I have a lot of questions about his end product in the final third, where Jano is strong, which he does have plenty of time to address, as he is only 20.
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I'm not gonna lie, i bought Lukaku for E13m as a 19 year old cause i wanted to build him up. He's a spot starter for now since i'm using Tottenham and i run Bale up top with Luis Muriel under him, but he's a god damn tank. Untackleable.


Also, Concacaf WCQ tonight. US should have an easy W against Jamaica, but honestly, i'm worried about the Mexican NT. There seems to have been a huge regression and our young generation from the last WC and Gold Cup teams have lost interest in playing. We need Carlos Vela and Jonathan Dos Santos back in the worst way. Chicharito/Guardado/Gio can't do it all on their own.
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Mexico looks like dogshit right now. They should still qualify, but it's not looking good.
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Yeah, i still fully expect to qualify, but unless **** starts changing in the next year, we're gonna go embarrass ourselves in the WC. We look horribad.
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Vela could help, but he is such a twat. I wouldn't even call him up unless he drops his list of demands.
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I fully expect a US collapse and 2-0 loss.
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USA should take care of business.
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Carlos Vela is still alive ?
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Vuvuzelas are awful. That is all.
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Carlos Vela is still alive ?
He's been playing very well the last 2 years in Spain. Going to Champions League next year. Have you been living under a rock, sir?
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Anyone have a good quality link?
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Is this game not on tv?
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<3 Zusi. Gonna be with a decent European club sometime soon.
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