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Old 06-03-2014, 08:10 AM    (permalink
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Hoping to see good things from Bosnia against Mexico. Them and Croatia are the teams I feel like rooting for, at the moment.
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I downloaded Football Manager yesterday, and man it's different. Still learning, but it's fun.

Also, some players are stupidly expensive, and I'm not sure why. I started out as Real Madrid, figured they had money and it would be easier to understand things, tried to buy Pogba, asked for their terms and they wanted $234 million.
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Also, the big news here today is that apparently AC Milan has offered Robinho to Tigres. Hahahaha
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I downloaded Football Manager yesterday, and man it's different. Still learning, but it's fun.

Also, some players are stupidly expensive, and I'm not sure why. I started out as Real Madrid, figured they had money and it would be easier to understand things, tried to buy Pogba, asked for their terms and they wanted $234 million.
I think that means they don't want to sell him lol. And teams are usually willing to accept less than what they first suggest.
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I downloaded Football Manager yesterday, and man it's different. Still learning, but it's fun.

Also, some players are stupidly expensive, and I'm not sure why. I started out as Real Madrid, figured they had money and it would be easier to understand things, tried to buy Pogba, asked for their terms and they wanted $234 million.
That's weaksauce. I'm managing a piece of **** in chile and most my players get paid under $250 lol
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I have no idea what this football manager game is. Someone give me a quick summary of it.
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That's weaksauce. I'm managing a piece of **** in chile and most my players get paid under $250 lol
Haha, I'm planning on starting with Mexico soon, but I wanted to see how it all worked. I wanted to build a super team with Suarez and Vidal and Toure and whatnot, but everyone was expensive as ****. I've since abandoned that haha.
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I have no idea what this football manager game is. Someone give me a quick summary of it.
Did you ever play the NFL Head Coach game? Basically that but for football/soccer.

You become the head coach, can't play the actual games, but it provides far more insight into strategy and building a team than FIFA does. It's FIFA's manager mode on steroids.
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Hmm, I think I'd like that. Might download that tonight. It's only $14 so if I don't like it I'm not really wasting much money.
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If you folks have any questions about the game, go ahead and post them in here. Theres a LOT to it, its easy to overlook some things.
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Hoping to see good things from Bosnia against Mexico. Them and Croatia are the teams I feel like rooting for, at the moment.
I flew to Chicago 2 years ago to watch those 2 play. I wish I went this time around. Should be a fun game.
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So I prettt much set up my philosophies to be an aggressive attacking team but my midfielders are pretty thin because of injuries and I don't even have a true left midfielder. Had to use a 5-3-2 and even with those 5 they gave up 3 goals despite the fact I went really conservative. Fml lol
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For you Newcastle fans, in my 2023-24 save, you guys have Oxlade-Chamberlain, Aaron Ramsey, and Nathan Ake on your squad. So look forward to that in 10 years.
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I didn't play FM 2014 but I played the 4 or 5 previous versions. I love this game and was fairly addicted to it, I could spend my entire day with a team, modeling it to my likeness and bring players and staff member in and when I was ready to go with the season I would create another game and do the same thing with another team.

I think there are some things you have to consider when you want trade for a player in FM.
1. Your club reputation
2. The level and reputation of your league
3. If you play in the Champions League, Europa League, ...
4. The player like or dislike your club, a member of the team or the staff.
5. If the player just signed a new contract or was just traded, you have little chance to sign him during the same mercato.

Now if you have the right factors in your favor, you can make public compliments about the player and make him like you, you then make an offer to the club and when they response with a higher counter offer you withdraw, if the player like you and want to go to your club he will complain and the club will put him on the trading block on a lower price, you have to be quick and make the first offer and you have to negociate the contract quickly, if you fail to aggree on the contract, other clubs will jump on the occasion or he might sign a new contract.

If you put bigger signing bonus for the player and the agent on the contract, you can neggociate the rest on contract in your favor.
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I have a ridiculously talented 6'8" Brazilian CB who not only sends everything the opposition puts in the box away on defense, but he also rises up to head in set-piece goals at a crazy rate on offense. I call him THE MOUNTAIN because I'm clever.
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I didn't play FM 2014 but I played the 4 or 5 previous versions. I love this game and was fairly addicted to hit, I could spend my entire day with a team, modeling it to my likeness and bring in players, staff member, playing with all the setups and when I was ready to go with the season I would create another game and do the same thing with another team.

I think there are some things you have to consider when you want trade for a player in FM.
1. Your club reputation
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3. If you play in the Champions League, Europa League, ...
4. The player like or dislike your club, a member of the team or the staff.
5. If the player just signed a new contract or was just traded, you have little chance to sign him during the same mercato.

Now if you have the right factors in your favor, you can make public compliments about the player and make him like you, you then make an offer to the club and when they response with a higher counter offer you withdraw, if the player like you and want to go to your club he will complain and the club will put him on the trading block on a lower price, you have to be quick and make the first offer and you have to negociate the contract quickly, if you fail to aggree on the contract, other clubs will jump on the occasion or he might sign a new contract.

If you put bigger signing bonus for the player and the agent on the contract, you can neggociate the rest on contract in your favor.
Yea I really enjoy that factor. Being able to use the media to unsettle a player at their club. Pretty cool stuff.
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Two questions so far:

1. How the hell does scouting work?

2. If you play a player at a different position, can he improve at it? I.E. a midfielder is a "natural" at CM, but "accomplished" at DM. If I play him a lot at DM, will he improve to "natural"?
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I assume it's more fun but harder to start with a really bad team?
I put semi-pro as my player experience for my coach and I could only land a job with the worst team in the Chilean first division and yeah it's fun but the matches piss you off. I have yet to win one because my defense may as well be tackling dummies.
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Two questions so far:

1. How the hell does scouting work?

2. If you play a player at a different position, can he improve at it? I.E. a midfielder is a "natural" at CM, but "accomplished" at DM. If I play him a lot at DM, will he improve to "natural"?
I havent played 14, so these answers are from 13. I'm not sure how different it is, but I doubt it can be TOO different, right?

1. You go to the scouting screen and send a scout to a particular country looking for a particular thing. Each scout has certain countries that they're "experts" at, aka the reports will return a lot faster. I tend to scout for youngsters, so I have them look for people who grade out well on their potential, according to my scout. If you send a scout to Brazil that has no prior knowledge of Brazil, it'll take ages for him to get back to you, but his knowledge of the country will increase, so it wont take as long next time.

2. You can train them to learn a position on a players' individual training screen, and they'll improve at it over time. But as long as they have high attributes in the specific areas that a role calls for (ie the deep lying playmaker role @ CM), then he should be relatively fine there, even if they arent necessarily naturals at that spot. They wont be AS good, but it's not the end of the world to play someone out of position.
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I put semi-pro as my player experience for my coach and I could only land a job with the worst team in the Chilean first division and yeah it's fun but the matches piss you off. I have yet to win one because my defense may as well be tackling dummies.
Oh so you can't just choose you team? I wanted to play as one of the lower level Scottish teams (maybe East Fife since that is where my ancestors are from).
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