In honor of the greatest game ever...

[Scotty D]

Who do you think is the better QB? Let's settle this in this thread. This poll is public and set to end before the big game.


Tom Brady

or

Peyton manning

[Turtlepower]

Originally Posted by Scotty D

Who do you think is the better QB? Let's settle this in this thread. This poll is public and set to end at 4 EST Sunday.


Tom Brady

or

Peyton manning

I love how this debate was not even close before this season, but as soon as Tom Brady gets receivers he is now instantaneously in the same class as Peyton. Peyton not only makes better reads, but he also has no baby mamas. =D

[jballa838]

brady has gisele, but peyton has marvin.
edge peyton because the only balls gisele catches are mine on her chin

[BUTerriers]

Originally Posted by Turtlepower

I love how this debate was not even close before this season, but as soon as Tom Brady gets receivers he is now instantaneously in the same class as Peyton. Peyton not only makes better reads, but he also has no baby mamas. =D

I think it was pretty close...One has still won two more Super Bowls than the other the last time I checked. Peyton has always has the better stats, but now it seems that has to do with the disparity between his and Brady's receivers. Now we see that Brady can put up numbers just as awe-inspiring as Manning when he is surrounded by skill players like the guys Manning has been playing with his whole career. Until Manning wins another two Super Bowls, you have to go with Brady here, I think...there's a reason why Marino is rarely considered the greatest QB of all time, but Montana is...

[Turtlepower]

Originally Posted by BUTerriers

I think it was pretty close...One has still won two more Super Bowls than the other the last time I checked. Peyton has always has the better stats, but now it seems that has to do with the disparity between his and Brady's receivers. Now we see that Brady can put up numbers just as awe-inspiring as Manning when he is surrounded by skill players like the guys Manning has been playing with his whole career. Until Manning wins another two Super Bowls, you have to go with Brady here, I think...there's a reason why Marino is rarely considered the greatest QB of all time, but Montana is...

If Indy's defense played up to par as it did last year, he might have 2 more SBs. Obviously Tom Brady was a key factor in all 3 SBs, but I still would give Adam Vinaterri and NE's Defense the MVP before Brady.

[BUTerriers]

Originally Posted by Turtlepower

If Indy's defense played up to par as it did last year, he might have 2 more SBs. Obviously Tom Brady was a key factor in all 3 SBs, but I still would give Adam Vinaterri and NE's Defense the MVP before Brady.

Definitely a valid argument...I think it would be fascinating to go back in time and somehow reverse roles to see how things turned out...How would Manning look with Troy Brown as his #1 but with a competent defense, and how would Brady look throwing to Harrison and Wayne but with the porous Indy defense we saw up until the 06 playoffs.

Still, Manning has been throwing to one of the best receivers of our generation his whole career, and has always had a good running game as well, while Brady has dealt with sub par players in both aspects. This game might be the first time the two are on a level playing field: this is the best defense the Colts have had since the beginning of Manning's career, and this is the best offense around Brady since the beginning of his career. It may not be a "winner take all" situation, but I would give the winner a definite edge in this argument.

[yodapoop]

Tom Brady beat the best team ever assembled in the 2001-2002 St. Louis Rams, so he gets my vote.

[Turtlepower]

Originally Posted by yodachu

Tom Brady beat the best team ever assembled in the 2001-2002 St. Louis Rams, so he gets my vote.

There is one ultimate instrument of doom that Tom Brady lacks... Marshall Faulk!!!

[Crazy_Chris]

I watched the episode of "Who Is..." today and they broke down this debate into ten topics...

Footwork/Mobility, Arm Strength, Accuracy, Decision Making, Football IQ, Clutch Performance, Toughness, Leadership, Accomplishments(can't remember the 10th help would be appreciated if you watched the show and remember what i am missing)

Tom Brady
Footwork/Mobility
Career Accomplishments
Clutch Performance

Peyton Manning
Arm Strength
Accuarcy
Decision Making
Football IQ
Leadership
Toughness

Of the 9 i can remember thats how they broke it down and in the end Manning had Brady in 7 of the 10 categories. I thought it was an interesting show and I don't disagree my vote goes to Manning.

[Don Vito]

Originally Posted by Turtlepower

I love how this debate was not even close before this season, but as soon as Tom Brady gets receivers he is now instantaneously in the same class as Peyton. Peyton not only makes better reads, but he also has no baby mamas. =D

In all fairness, Manning has had top tier receivers, tight end, line, and backs for a while. I think they are both elite, potential HOF QBs but I will take Brady because he has more rings and is on pace to put up (arguably) better numbers this season then Manning ever has, and this is the first year that he has elite talent around him, something Manning has had for a long time.

[Shiver]

I have been saying Tom Brady for the last few years now. The fact that he's having the kind of success that he has had because of Moss and Welker is no surprise to me.

[Moses]

Pointless argument. Neither is "better" than the other. They are just too close to make a call. Similar to Marino vs. Favre.

[Shiver]

Originally Posted by Moses

Pointless argument. Neither is "better" than the other. They are just too close to make a call. Similar to Marino vs. Favre.

I would say that but Manning's below average post-season performances still bother me. Sure he 'won' the Super Bowl last year, but he still played well below his typical level.

[kwilk103]

manning

without the "tuck rule" brady doesnt win 3 sb's same with belichek; the hero of 2 of the sb's was vinateri and if he misses those 2 kicks belichek isnt a genious

another interesting fact---belichek was the dc of giants team that beat the bills; he chose to let thurman thomas beat them---he did running for over 130 yds, and they were in position to win until norwood missed the kick

interesting to see how close these 2 are to not being labeled as 2 of the greatest

[Wyndham]

Definitely Manning. No doubt about that in my mind.

Talk about receivers all you want but it is Brady who lucked into the far better situation -- Bill Belichick and New England's consistently good defenses far outweigh any advanage Manning had with his supporting cast on the offensive side of the ball. In fact, Belichick alone trumps anything Manning has ever had. His coaching is tough to put into words.

[Watchman]

Originally Posted by kwilk103

manning

the hero of 2 of the sb's was vinateri

I think that those were clutch kicks in big time games. But, you can't discount the clutch drives engineered by the QB to get the team into field goal position to attempt the kick. A lot of things had to happen to get Vinateri onto the field to kick a couple of game winning field goals in those Super Bowls, and all of them were clutch. Come one did anyone really think that Brady was going to get the Pats into position to kick a field goal for the win vs. the Rams in 2001?

The way I look at this is it is like asking someone if they want a Ferrari or a Lamborghini - you can't really go wrong with either one. I've always thought Brady was a little better because he's accomplished more with less offensive talent than Manning, and Brady's clutch resume is better than Manning's.

[DeathbyStat]

Brady

Manning was terrible in last years playoffs eventhough his team won the super bowl

[Diehard]

Originally Posted by Crazy_Chris

Of the 9 i can remember thats how they broke it down and in the end Manning had Brady in 7 of the 10 categories. I thought it was an interesting show and I don't disagree my vote goes to Manning.

"Clutch Performance" > all other categories combined. Brady FTW.

[Vince Lombardi]

Manning, put him on the Pats and they'd be just as unstoppable as they are now. Put Brady on the Colts and I'm not sold that he can carry that team the way Peyton has for years now.

[duckseason]

I'm not sure I can put one definitively ahead of the other, but if you put a gun to my head I'd probably have to choose Manning. I just think that if you add both these guys to any team in the league, Manning would make the bigger impact. Tough call though, and I could be wrong about that.

[Splat]

Brady the guy just wins.

[sweetness34]

It's way too close to call but I'll lean towards Peyton. Yea I understand the whole "winning" thing but if we're talking about QB play what Peyton does on the field I have never seen before. The man calls his own plays from the line of scrimmage. His ability to read defenses is something I've never seen before.

Tom Brady is no slouch though, he's got targets to throw to and he's taking advantage of it by putting up monster stats.

[Xiomera]

Ooo, I love these debates . . . I mean arguments . . . I mean opportunities to watch people take these threads far too personally . . .

For the Record, my choice remains Tom Brady.

[Splat]

Originally Posted by sweetness34

Tom Brady is no slouch though, he's got targets to throw to and he's taking advantage of it by putting up monster stats.

Even with out the great targets Brady got the job done that is why I'm going with him.

[cordscords]

Peyton by a nose.