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Old 09-09-2008, 03:58 PM    (permalink
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I watched this game again lastnight just to watch our linebackers and D'Qwell Jackson should be benched. He's pathetic. Can't shed blockers, gets driven backwards, plays flat footed in his zones, and cannot cover a TE or back to save his life(Obviously we have to let TO beating him slide that was a coaching error). He has never once showed any flashes of being a good linebacker while Leon Williams has had 2 dominate games and several other very good games in the same amount of years. Leon Williams is also the far superior athlete, quicker and faster. He can run side line to side line better and he's better in coverage(I don't think he's very good either, but better).

Bench D'Qwell, and maybe it'll light a fire under him if it doesn't then stick it out this season with Leon Williams and see what he has to offer. He reminds me a lot of Donnie Edwards who wasn't a very good player until a few years down the road as well. Beau Bell could be our thumper and Leon Williams the side line to side line/coverage backer. If it doesn't workout then we draft someone else this year or next and let Jackson or Williams or both walk in 2010.

D'Qwell was hands down the worst linebacker of the game. Also, Kamerion Wimbley looked to me like he was thinking way too much. They have this kid so freaking coached full of garbage just let him pin his ears back and go after the QB and he'll get more pressure. He definitely needs to develope another pass rushing move though. If I see that same dip get defeated one more time I'm going to throw my remote through the TV.

Davis looked very good actually. He's just a little slower now and like the rest of our backers horrible in coverage.

Willie McGinest is just slower than old man time trying to run through a pool of syrup.

Alex Hall actually made two great plays forcing the runner to bounce it back inside and Andra Davis and Sean Jones were not where to be found. He's thinking too much as well, but that is to be expected out of any rookie let alone a 7th rounder forced into the lineup in week one.

The defense is pathetic, but it looks to me as though it is more so coaching than lack of talent. This defense is coached up to be soft. When you are letting the tightends get off the ball freely without any sort of chuck off the line it makes it much more difficult for the safties and inside linebackers to pick them up in coverage. It also makes it much easier for the QB to find a target much faster, so essentially we are defeating our pass rush. Another thing that is killing our pass rush is the soft cusions given to the recievers on the outside. Our coaching staff is so afraid of these young guys getting beat deep their playing them so far off the ball that the reciever simply has to stop and he becomes wide open. I'm 5'3 couldn't see over my offensive line and I could still make that read and throw. Until we start chucking tightends off the line and jamming wide recievers before they get off the ball you can count on a pointless pass rush and teams to pick the secondary apart.

This makes two defensive coordinators and a new make up of players with the same results. The common denominator is Romeo Crennel. He is suppose to be the leader of this team so he needs to step up and teach these players better. The reasons we are getting beat on defense are elementary and he is suppose to be a defensive genius?
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I vote we cut Braylon Edwards. He had 1 bad game and we all know it's impossible to change from week to week as we all know. Brady Quinn should be cut as well, he did nothing.
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I vote we cut Braylon Edwards. He had 1 bad game and we all know it's impossible to change from week to week as we all know. Brady Quinn should be cut as well, he did nothing.

Pathetic attempt at making an excuse for one game.

ITS NOT JUST ONE GAME. Show me one time D'Qwell Jackson has ever been an effective linebacker, he's in his third year now, not his first game.

The coaching has always been pathetic. This is their 4th year now, not first game.

Kamerion Wimbley has always only had one pass rushing move. This isn't his first rodeo either.

If you would have actually got the point of my post you would have noticed that I said it was correctable. The not chucking TE's and jamming recievers point was to show that our defense could be a lot more effective if those corrections are made. It's up to Romeo and Tucker to actually make those adjustments. This is Tuckers first year, so he gets a break, but Romeo has been around forever and 4 years here now.

Romeo Crennel and D'Qwell Jackson are the two guys I'm pissed about. Everything else is easily fixable. Romeo and Jackson have both been here long enough to know better than what they're showing.
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Pathetic attempt at making an excuse for one game.

ITS NOT JUST ONE GAME. Show me one time D'Qwell Jackson has ever been an effective linebacker, he's in his third year now, not his first game.

The coaching has always been pathetic. This is their 4th year now, not first game.

Kamerion Wimbley has always only had one pass rushing move. This isn't his first rodeo either.

If you would have actually got the point of my post you would have noticed that I said it was correctable. The not chucking TE's and jamming recievers point was to show that our defense could be a lot more effective if those corrections are made. It's up to Romeo and Tucker to actually make those adjustments. This is Tuckers first year, so he gets a break, but Romeo has been around forever and 4 years here now.

Romeo Crennel and D'Qwell Jackson are the two guys I'm pissed about. Everything else is easily fixable. Romeo and Jackson have both been here long enough to know better than what they're showing.
D'Qwell has had 2 fine seasons besides this game, which is why you look like an overreacting ***** at the moment.
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Wow. Someone just looks at stats doesn't he. All those tackles he's been making have been 5+ yards down field. He's never once made an impact play in his career. 0 Forced Fumbles, 1 Interception he didn't even make the play, and 1 sack.

Leon Williams was asked to contain Michael Vick of all people and completely destroyed him. Cleveland, thanks to Leon, control Vick better than any team except Carolina during Vicks days in the NFL. Not to mention his game against San Francisco when he was making life miserable for the QB time after time. He has show flashes of being a play maker in this league. D'Qwell Jackson has never done that and it's time to face up to it.
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D'Qwell has had 2 fine seasons besides this game, which is why you look like an overreacting ***** at the moment.
2 mediocre but "promising" seasons. He can be good but if sunday is any indication he's in trouble. He gets a mulligan for Dallas. They are probably the best team in the NFL and have an incredible OLine and skill position players. Their offense is like ours except better. He's better than Leon though. Leon has been very disappointing since 2007, he gets lost and takes wrong angles and misses gaps and doesn't read the plays right and so many other things. Well he's not as bad as that sounds but he is not better than jackson or davis right now, he's mediocre and decent for his role as the mike in our nickel D.
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BROWNS’ SEAN JONES OUT SEVERAL WEEKS
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 10, 2008, 11:56 a.m. EDT
The Cleveland Browns’ secondary has taken a big hit.

Safety Sean Jones will have arthroscopic surgery on his right knee and miss several weeks, Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer is reporting. Coach Romeo Crennel said Jones will not be placed on injured reserve, and the team does think he’ll be back this year.

Jones, a 2004 second-round draft pick, has started every game since the beginning of the 2006 season. His absence will be especially difficult for the Browns to deal with if their other starting safety, Brodney Pool, can’t return this week from the concussion that kept him out Week 1.

Mike Adams and Nick Sorensen would be the starting safeties if both Jones and Pool are out. Crennel said the Browns might add a safety to the roster.


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We've had more injuries so far this year than we had all of last year...
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This means Pool and Adams at safety against Pittsburgh. Not good, Big Ben will test us deep several times with Holmes and Washington, ugh. This season is not setting up well at all for our players with all the injuries at key positions this early.
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This means Pool and Adams at safety against Pittsburgh. Not good, Big Ben will test us deep several times with Holmes and Washington, ugh. This season is not setting up well at all for our players with all the injuries at key positions this early.
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Pool should be back for Sunday.

Pittsburgh schedule got easier again now that Merriman is out for the year.
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Romeo just gave up on his team two weeks in a row. I hope Randy Lerner punches him in his fat lard of a face, shits on his chest and then burns his ******* house down using his damn contract to start the fire.
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You gave us a tough battle. If Romeo and DA didnt suck, you could have won.
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Romeo just gave up on his team two weeks in a row. I hope Randy Lerner punches him in his fat lard of a face, shits on his chest and then burns his ******* house down using his damn contract to start the fire.
4th and seven on an almost 8 minute drive. You HAVE to come out with points on it. You miss on 4th and 7 on an 8 minute drive and leave with 0 points, your offense won't be the same IF they get the ball back. You lose ALL MOMENTUM. Please, keep making calls from your couch, Romeo is one of the best things to happen to this team.
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- rep for being an idiot.

Learn something about the game before you come and try to post about it.

4th and seven on an almost 8 minute drive. You HAVE to come out with points on it. You miss on 4th and 7 on an 8 minute drive and leave with 0 points, your offense won't be the same IF they get the ball back. You lose ALL MOMENTUM. Please, keep making calls from your couch, Romeo is one of the best things to happen to this team.
You're just like every other Cleveland fan full of false hopes. Romeo has been riding the coat tails of Parcels and BB for years. He's failed badly every time he left and this time is no different. He's a bad coach plain and simple. Every good thing we've had happen to us has been a direct opposite of what Romeo decided on doing. He never has his team prepared to come out swinging and makes piss poor adjustments. He's a fat lard who needs to be fired.
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You're just like every other Cleveland fan full of false hopes. Romeo has been riding the coat tails of Parcels and BB for years. He's failed badly every time he left and this time is no different. He's a bad coach plain and simple. Every good thing we've had happen to us has been a direct opposite of what Romeo decided on doing. He never has his team prepared to come out swinging and makes piss poor adjustments. He's a fat lard who needs to be fired.
No, your like every Browns fan who thinks this is an overnight process.

Savage and Crennel have done wonders for this team.

You'll the one with false hopes thinking we're a Super Bowl team that shouldn't have lost to arguably the 2 best teams in the NFL.

Trade in your wishful thinking for some football knowledge or GTFO.
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Good game, but shaun rodgers is a dirtbag. late hits, facemasks all over the place and the one hit where three seconds after the throw he headbutts roethlisberger in his hurt shoulder.
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also, winslow looked like an idiot after he yelled at anderson that he was open on the pick to polamalu and comes out after halftime and dropes one right in his hands fifteen yards down field
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4th and seven on an almost 8 minute drive. You HAVE to come out with points on it. You miss on 4th and 7 on an 8 minute drive and leave with 0 points, your offense won't be the same IF they get the ball back. You lose ALL MOMENTUM. Please, keep making calls from your couch, Romeo is one of the best things to happen to this team.
i have to completely disagree with you. very bad decisions all night by crennel. we have pitt backed up on their own 1 yard line, we play it right on first down then on 2nd down blitz only four? really?

terrible clock management at the end of the game. just bad.

going for a field goal before the half, safe decision. bad one too. in a game where both teams were having a terrible time moving the football, there would be nothing wrong with an overtime game. by kicking that field goal, at the end of the game we needed a touchdown, and if we went for it but didnt get it, well, we still needed a TD. in know, hindsight and all that, but knowing pittsburgh was having a hard time moving the ball, going for it was just fine.

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no, shaun rodgers is a manchild. complete beast that single handedly embarrased your OL, by himself. destroying double teams all night. and he didnt have any facemasks, he had a close one, and the "late hit", he was in momentum which makes it a legal hit, but i'm sure he didnt try and stop either :)

oh, and what about all the holding calls, or lack thereof on your LT on wimbley? i remember one play in particular, a pitch to the left for parker. wimbley was on path to bust it up, but for some reason couldn't run AWAY from the blocker.

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also, winslow looked like an idiot after he yelled at anderson that he was open on the pick to polamalu and comes out after halftime and dropes one right in his hands fifteen yards down field
i think he was justified. anderson had all day to throw that pass. and for whatever reason he wasnt on the field for the last 2 plays of the game!! WTF?! there's no way that was chuds decision.


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That was probably the worst called game by a head coach I've ever seen. What a joke, Romeo made some of the stupidest mistakes in that game what the hell was he thinking? We played fairly well, but he didn't give us a chance to win it. Seriously, if you're down by a touchdown with 3 minutes left when you're offense is on a roll and it the strength of your team, you kick a field goal which means you need another TD anyways - but that involives putting faith in your worst unit (defense) and then hoping to have another drive (which takes more than 2 minutes) to score a touchdown (which hasn't happened yet this season for us). Crennel should be fired before the season ends. We're not gonna beat anyone but Cincy, Baltimore, and Houston at that rate.
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Good game, but shaun rodgers is a dirtbag. late hits, facemasks all over the place and the one hit where three seconds after the throw he headbutts roethlisberger in his hurt shoulder.
Rodgers is a beast. He actually wanted to play last night. He played well, even though I did not like the hit he put on Ben because it was a little late.


Bad calls all over the place last night for both teams. Its whatever though.
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Maybe if Jerome Harrison could pick up a fumble...

Robaire Smith may be out for the season...

We need to win our next 2 games.
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Robaire has officially been declared out for the season with a ruptured Achilles tendon.
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Rogers has looked good. So has Shaun Smith, at least most of the time. We are officially at the bottom of the barrell though with DTs, we have our 3 starters and a bunch of scrubs. Looks like Leonard might see the rotation a bit now.

We should beat Baltimore, no excuse not to no matter which venue it's at. They have a good defense but so did Pitt and Dallas and so will NYG, WAS, PHI, JAC, TEN, etc.
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It appears that Phil Savage and Romeo Crennel are not on the same page and in the midst of a tiff right now. That being the case then peace the **** out Romeo. You're and overrated flop you pathetic excuse of a coach. You have talent, but you never use it. Every team in the league uses depth fairly well except your team jackass. You don't use the 2nd best runner on the team. You don't rotate pass rushers in on obvious passing situation...instead you let an old busted down has been attempt to halfway get out of his stance before the ball is away. You're loyalty makes me puke you fat lard.

We'll find out where this franchise is heading at season end. If Randy Lerner chooses to keep Romeo over Savage then we are heading for the basement again. If he chooses Savage over Romeo and finds a quallity coach then we're not far from playoff competition year after year.
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