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Old 12-23-2008, 08:56 PM    (permalink
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Steltz quite simply isn't very good. I have only seen one good play by him all season (granted it's a small sample size). He should be considered nothing more then a backup and special teams player.
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yea cause everyone picked in the 5th round draft is gonna be good in his rookie year and ready to start...
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yea cause everyone picked in the 5th round draft is gonna be good in his rookie year and ready to start...
It doesn't take a lot to see if a player has it or not. From what I have seen, Steltz doesn't have it. He might, might, turn into a decent player, but he should not be counted on to do much more then ST and be a backup.
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yea cause everyone picked in the 5th round draft is gonna be good in his rookie year and ready to start...
I agree. Steltz was a hardworking overachiever (aka white guy) in college, and even he shouldn't be expected to come into the pros and be ready to go right away.

Plus, Smokey, if your basing it off of a trucking....yeah, that sucks, but just about anyone could truck just about anyone else on the football field given the circumstances. I could probably truck an NFL defender if I got all my momentum going forward and put my shoulder into it just right, and the defender was backing up and turning and didn't have the momentum going right, I could run him over. Its going to happen to everyone.

Hell, I remember once a few years back when Jeff Garcia was with the Browns he just plain trampled Brian Dawkins. Thats gotta be embarrassing but Dawkins wasn't cut on the spot.

You just need to take a chill pill sometimes Smokey...we do have a lot of needs, but so does just about every other team. And they only have so many draft picks to go around as well.
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If Smokey was our GM he'd cut half our team.
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Obviously that cutting after getting trucked was an overreaction, but that was just pitiful. It was by far one of the worst tackling attempts I've seen all year in the NFL.
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Obviously that cutting after getting trucked was an overreaction, but that was just pitiful. It was by far one of the worst tackling attempts I've seen all year in the NFL.
u havent watched when Daniel Manning or AA tried to tackle? Ouch
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u havent watched when Daniel Manning or AA tried to tackle? Ouch
Manning gets a bad rap because of the Minnesota game where AP dominated us. We needed the ball back, and Manning decided to go for the strip instead of the tackle. He is certainly no outstanding tackler, but he isn't as bad as some make him out to be.

As for AA, god he was brutal. Steltz getting ran over yesterday was shades of AA pretty much all of last year. At least AA has a hot wife though.
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I wouldn't call Manning even a halfway decent tackler......besides one game last year, I've seen him trying to bring guys down with just an arm or shying away from contact just trying to avoid getting hit himself.

I prefer not to see him out there on defense.....he's quite the liability.
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naaah DManning gets bad rep cause i see him trying to tackle
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Manning has turned into a solid nickel back for us, which is quite a good fit for him for us. He isn't physical enough to play S, but nickel fits him perfectly. He's been playing really well on D this year. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.
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we should blitz him more often, seems like they work everytime. Yesterday 1 almost sack, 1 INT, i remember 1 sack vs McNabb
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Manning is probably our best blitzer we have on our D. Better than any LBs or DBs.
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Manning is a fine defender so long as he never has to hit anything. Even that sack attempt on Aaron Rodgers was laughably pathetic. He just fell into his waist and starter pulling on him.
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Merry Christmas to all my fellow Bears fans!!
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http://www.suntimes.com/sports/footb...bear26.article

good article on Mike Brown. It'll be sad if we lose him....great team leader.
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I wish Mike the best, but I really hope that we don't resign him.\

In fact, I'd really like to see him retire and take a spot on our coaching staff, though I doubt he's just ready to do that.
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I hope we bring Mike Brown back. but i am looking forward to see our young safeties getting challenged this weekend.
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I hope we bring Mike Brown back. but i am looking forward to see our young safeties getting challenged this weekend.
I'm sure they will be with a hobbled Tillman going up against Andre Johnson.

Good news is Aso just totally shut him down last weekend, so it can be done...bad news is we have no one nearly as good as Aso. So I could easily see Andre "Steve Smith" us as I'm sure everyone remembers from the playoffs a few years back...
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I'm sure they will be with a hobbled Tillman going up against Andre Johnson.

Good news is Aso just totally shut him down last weekend, so it can be done...bad news is we have no one nearly as good as Aso. So I could easily see Andre "Steve Smith" us as I'm sure everyone remembers from the playoffs a few years back...
So we get to play against a pissed off Andre Johnson. That won't be fun.
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We'll see what Craig Steltz and Kevin Payne are made of at least...
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Well, at least we won't have to see Payne try and be a center fielder next week. He is absolutely terrible in coverage.
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