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Old 10-04-2011, 03:05 PM    (permalink
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This team is so damn disorganized. We get into a nice rhythm only to shoot ourselves in the foot whether it be penalties, turnovers, dropped passes, missed blocks, overthrows, missed tackles, missed INT's, etc.

This team is just frustrating as hell to watch. Last week vs Green Bay there were plays to be made in the passing game and we failed to execute simple fundamental football.

I believe the talent is there to be a good team, but we cannot execute consistently to save our lives.

Offensively, one week Martz calls 50 passing plays as his QB gets killed (with no run game). The next week he calls 50 more pass plays but players fail to either catch the ball or hit open receivers (again with no run game). Two days ago we rape Carolina on the ground, but our passing game looks like ****.

Defensively, why does it take a rocket scientist to see that sitting back against Rodgers may not be a great idea when we can't generate a pass rush? Why didn't we blitz him more and try to knock the crap out of him? Sure we may give up some big plays, but Rodgers wasn't the same in the NFC Championship Game after Peppers blasted him.

So I pose this question; who is more to blame? Coaches or players?
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Scariest thing for me: We're 31st in total defense right now. That kills me. The Bears are always about defense...
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Scariest thing for me: We're 31st in total defense right now. That kills me. The Bears are always about defense...
Yards mean nothing.
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20th in points allowed isn't all that much better...
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20th in points allowed isn't all that much better...
It's 11 spots better. We've played some of the best offenses in the NFL.
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It's 11 spots better. We've played some of the best offenses in the NFL.
I don't accept this as an excuse. We have a defensive oriented head coach and a defense oriented GM, our defense should be better than this.
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I don't accept this as an excuse. We have a defensive oriented head coach and a defense oriented GM, our defense should be better than this.
We've played 4 games.
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So is everyone ready to stop acting like I'm an asshole for the things I said about our offseason?

I normally wouldn't post like this, but I seem to recall some "I can't wait to bump this and make you look like an idiot" posts directed my way.

Still room on the Jamarcus Webb hate bandwagon. Who wants a seat?
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God ******* damnit.
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Nobody did more than the Bears in augmenting their Offensive Line this offseason...They just need time to gel...Its about consistency...Still plenty of football left...We're close...Just going have to play harder...Frank Omiyale is a good football player...and we'll go from there.
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Nobody did more than the Bears in augmenting their Offensive Line this offseason...They just need time to gel...Its about consistency...Still plenty of football left...We're close...Just going have to play harder...Frank Omiyale is a good football player...and we'll go from there.
So SFbear is actually Jerry Angelo. Good to know.
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"I am going to treat it as an aberration,'' [Me] on the defensive meltdown.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...5320812.column

We've been giving up huge plays all year but clearly the Lions game was some sort of anomaly. Nothing to see here. Move along folks.
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The sad thing is we have some winnable games left that may allow JA to save himself. Vikings twice, Chiefs, Broncos and Seahawks are definitely winnable.

7-9 might not get this staff **** canned the way I'd like to see. I'm exhausted of this team in it's current state...We need some changes. I just hope we don't end up hiring someone worse...
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Why is the Bears' Cover-2 giving up more big plays than last year? Is it the quality of the safeties? Are the pass-rushers getting plder?
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Why is the Bears' Cover-2 giving up more big plays than last year? Is it the quality of the safeties? Are the pass-rushers getting plder?
Chris Harris is the slowest safety ever and I'm pretty sure Brandon Merriweather is mentally ********. That's a big part of it.

The pass rush not getting there also isn't helping.
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What?!?! We drafted a right tackle and spent a ton of money on a center who for some reason in backing up an inept Lance Louis and an ancient Robert Garza. Please let this be sarcasm. Frank Omiyale is a good football player? Dumber words have never been spoken. It's about consistency? The Bears line is the most consistent in the league. They are consistently ****.
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Chris Harris is the slowest safety ever and I'm pretty sure Brandon Merriweather is mentally ********. That's a big part of it.

The pass rush not getting there also isn't helping.
What happened to that safety they drafted in 2010? Major Wright? I thought he looked good as a rookie last year and might have been the best rookie safety of that class.
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Calm down, he's obviously joking.

I agree that this team is probably a 7-8 win operation, and that's probably not enough to have the total purge that is necessary.

It's not that Angelo and Lovie are awful at their jobs. I think Angelo is still a fantastic evaluator of defensive talent, even if he's slipped a bit in recent years, and his two biggest moves (Cutler, Peppers) were both ballsy and fantastic.

I've always been less enamored with Lovie. I think he's smart enough to be a solid defensive coordinator or head coach in college, but lacks the natural cerebralness to be an NFL head coach (he's also a total nepotist, which infuriates me to no end). That said, he's got a solid W/L record, and he can at least engender the loyalty of his players, whatever that's worth.

The problem is that we've been trying this since 2004, and we're going in the wrong direction. This isn't college football where it's ok to have the same coach for 20-30 years; sometimes change for the sake of change is a good thing.
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He's currently injured.
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Calm down, he's obviously joking.

I agree that this team is probably a 7-8 win operation, and that's probably not enough to have the total purge that is necessary.

It's not that Angelo and Lovie are awful at their jobs. I think Angelo is still a fantastic evaluator of defensive talent, even if he's slipped a bit in recent years, and his two biggest moves (Cutler, Peppers) were both ballsy and fantastic.

I've always been less enamored with Lovie. I think he's smart enough to be a solid defensive coordinator or head coach in college, but lacks the natural cerebralness to be an NFL head coach (he's also a total nepotist, which infuriates me to no end). That said, he's got a solid W/L record, and he can at least engender the loyalty of his players, whatever that's worth.

The problem is that we've been trying this since 2004, and we're going in the wrong direction. This isn't college football where it's ok to have the same coach for 20-30 years; sometimes change for the sake of change is a good thing.
And this is not even mentioning Mike Martz who needs to go. He's been a complete failure at every stop post-Rams.

And even when he was with the Rams, he had HoF caliber talent at LT, RB and two WRs. Plus Kurt Warner.

Anyone one of us could have been made to look like an offensive genius with that kind of talent.
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I feel bad for you guys. You have to have one of the worst Offensive Lines I have seen ever! It reminds me of the beating David Carr took when he came into the league with the Texans.

Too bad Carimi got injured, guy is a stud-need to really address the O-Line in the Offseason.

As mentioned, Martz hasn't really done anything since the glory days of the Rams. It also didn't make much sense getting rid of Olsen (I know he isn't TE friendly, but come on?)
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Two of the Bears players (J’Marcus Webb and Frank Omiyale) have more false starts than 12 teams.
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Is Frank Omiyale the "Crappy Guard" you guys kept talking about? Just a guess of mine, I'm pretty sure he was. He has to be. I mean...that dude was awful.

Was it him?
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Is Frank Omiyale the "Crappy Guard" you guys kept talking about? Just a guess of mine, I'm pretty sure he was. He has to be. I mean...that dude was awful.

Was it him?
Yeah, it was him. We signed him and he proceeded to be the worst run blocking guard ever. He'd just get immediately stood up and knocked on his ass.

Then he moved to right tackle...where he was even worse.

Then, last year, after Chris Williams got hurt, he moved to left tackle where he was barely passable, mostly because if there is one position on the o-line where you can get away with being soft, it's LT.

And this we move Webb there...and Webb is awful. Carimi gets hurt, so Omiyele is back at RT.

BTW, if we cut J'Marcus Webb right now, no other team in the NFL would sign him. Now or ever. His career would be over. And he's OUR left tackle...
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I'm sure some other team would take a shot at Webb thanks to his physical tools. If someone with a power scheme would keep him on the bench for two or three years (like the Bears were supposed to) and groom him to be a right tackle, he might have done okay.
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