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Old 05-12-2008, 06:09 PM    (permalink
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I remember telling you guys after the Giants-Bears game in December that priority #1 is without a doubt the offensive line. Your aging in the trenches and the guys you have there are mediocre anyway...not a good situation. We can joke about Grossman non-stop but when all is said and done, he can win games. He is not a franchise type, not a Pro-Bowl type, but he can get the job done. That line has not helped his cause and there have been some other factors that have not gone his way.

Honestly, can anyone really get upset about passing on guys like Henne or Brohm? Neither of those two have shown me they will be anything better than what you've got other than the unknown factor. I'm not saying Grossman is the future but by no means should Angelo have gone after one hard and overpayed.
right, i don't mind passing on brohm or henne. like i had said earlier, we might have gotten 4 or 5 starters with our first 4 or 5 picks in that draft. this year might be pushing it (though most may be) but down the line, i expect for all of first 4 picks to be starting on this team. Had we taken a QB with any one of those, I couldn't say that. Grossman or KO will be our starter next year and they both proven that they can win with the talent around them. A healthy D and a better o-line will do wonders if one of them can just protect the football
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They did get good value with their picks. Hopefully, Williams turns into a franchise LT. They thought running back was a bigger problem than quarterback, so Forte can come in and play right away. The coaches said Forte was the most impressive player they had at the rookie mini-camp.
Harrison's a gamble, but if he can stay healthy and out of trouble, he can be a quality DT. Steltz is a very smart player, even though he isn't as fast, but is a playmaker. Bowman would've been the first defensive back taken in the draft if it wasn't for injuries, so it's a calculated risk. He could be a great free safety if he stays healthy. Monk and Barton were good value in the 7th round, but they aren't expected to do much.
Other than Ryan, the quarterbacks would not have solved much. Flacco was picked way too early for a relative unknown.
The thing that bothered me the most about Brohm is obviously the injuries, especially the torn ligaments in his throwing thumb in 2006. That's the kind of injury that lingers. He used to make deep throws until that injury happened, then he didn't make those throws anymore.
Henne looked good at the workouts when it was not a game situation, but like Grossman, had problems when under pressure.
Even though I liked Woodson, he wouldn't have solved anything this year or possibly next year. So it could work, but we'll have to wait.
Edit: Bennett looks like the safe pick, even though he is nothing spectacular physically. Monk can make an impact for moving the chains.
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I find it funny, that if we would have drafted Caleb Hanie with one of our 5-7th round picks rather than sign him as a UDFA, the experts would have liked our draft much more.
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I find it funny, that if we would have drafted Caleb Hanie with one of our 5-7th round picks rather than sign him as a UDFA, the experts would have liked our draft much more.
i know right? i was thinking that myself earlier today... how messed up is that?
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i just didnt like the TE pick. At that spot especially, I liked Josh Johnson or Andre Woodson. Beyond that I got over not getting Brohm (who i really liked). Forte has a good attitude and thats what I like. Character.

We had a very good, but unspectacular draft. I would have preferred to see a little aggression by the front office but ill wait til next year for that.
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http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/...-ink-a-rookie/

woot. lets hope we just keep signing em up. the quicker they get under contract, the quicker they can start practicing and all that...
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I really like the tools of Kellen Davis and the value we get for a 5th round pick.

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http://www.chicagobears.com/news/New...?story_id=4746

Kellen Davis and all the 7th rd guys as well.
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http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/...p-into-august/

well, we're not going to know whether its rexy or KO for a while now.

im hoping for KO honestly. hes safer imo....and we just need someone whos going to not turn it over right away because with our team, even a 3 and out on offense can be considered a bit of a success just because it gives the D more of a break than theyd get with rexy throwing a pick right away.
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Grossman should be at least 101 in THP and 3 in THA
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Im surprised that Grossman is that low, same w/ Orton. I would have expected around an 82 for Grossman and maybe a 79 for Orton. Hell Seneca Wallace had an 81 rating in 08. Runningbacks, Im surprised that Forte is that high for a 2nd rounder, and Williams is that low for a 1st. On defense, Hunter gets no love. Briggs should be 97.
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Im surprised that Grossman is that low, same w/ Orton. I would have expected around an 82 for Grossman and maybe a 79 for Orton. Hell Seneca Wallace had an 81 rating in 08. Runningbacks, Im surprised that Forte is that high for a 2nd rounder, and Williams is that low for a 1st. On defense, Hunter gets no love. Briggs should be 97.
i didnt even look..... if/when i get the next madden, i usually take a day or two before i start up franchise mode and recreate the roster wtih a little more realism to it....

im very, very weird with my madden playing ways, lol
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It's encouraging at least. I know I'm probably in the minority but I'm still pulling for Benson to breakout and win the job.
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It's encouraging at least. I know I'm probably in the minority but I'm still pulling for Benson to breakout and win the job.
yeah, minority alright, lol.

i would just like to see some running back break out.....and im not sure benson's problem last year was so much his quickness as the fact that as soon as he hit the line of scrimmage, he would go down....
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and steltz is officially a bear.

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Im surprised that Grossman is that low, same w/ Orton. I would have expected around an 82 for Grossman and maybe a 79 for Orton. Hell Seneca Wallace had an 81 rating in 08. Runningbacks, Im surprised that Forte is that high for a 2nd rounder, and Williams is that low for a 1st. On defense, Hunter gets no love. Briggs should be 97.
Agreed. Overall stats are nothing though. What i'm really irked about is that Brown is only one point higher than Anderson.

Madden just irks me since they took out the accelerated clock function.
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Agreed. Overall stats are nothing though. What i'm really irked about is that Brown is only one point higher than Anderson.

Madden just irks me since they took out the accelerated clock function.
stuff like that really doesnt bother me because I don't think ive actualy played the games in quite a few madden generations.....

i sort of play GM of the whole thing and sim everything. I know it sounds boring as hell as that is most peoples least favorite part but i enjoy the hell out ofit
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looks like we tried to claim Bruce Gradkowski off of waivers but St. Louis beat us to him.
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yeah, he could quite possibly be their QB of the future there. He'll have to beat out Brock Berlin for the 3rd string job this year (shouldn't be hard) behind Bulger and Trent Green. Then if Green retires or something after this year, he can be an experienced backup to Bulger with a year in the system. Works well for them I think.
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Benson is a sorry sack of poop. I hope that we never select a runningback in the top 10 ever again.
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Totally agree. With the way the two-back system is being used, I don't think it's necessary to pick feature backs early. Plus, runningback is the one position that has the most turnover. You can still find good runningbacks in the mid-rounds of the draft. Top-10 runningbacks should be out of date soon.
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Yeah, he's done in Chi-town, it sounds like. I can't fault the Bears for drafting Benson, I really thought it would be a perfect fit.

The Bears can move on with Forte, Peterson, and Wolfe. That trio can do good things, hoping we see Wolfe more on third downs.
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