Eagles 2008 Offseason (+ Draft) Thread - Page 5

Sniper · 01-08-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bhaarat316

I think the eagles might be agrasive in this draft, or during FA, currently the eagles have 12 picks and also compensation for a qb that lead a team to the playoffs in Garcia and a WR that helped for 16-0 in Stallworth, even though Curtis is better. Curtis did have 1,000 yrds on the season.

We could end up with 14 picks, though isn't there a limit on the number u can have like 10 or something.

Curtis is not better than Stallworth. Stallworth was the #3 or #4 target for the Pats.

eaglesfan_45 · 01-08-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SNIPER26

Curtis is not better than Stallworth. Stallworth was the #3 or #4 target for the Pats.

so

he wasn't all that great greatly benifited from the prescence of Moss and Welker plus he is injury prone

Sniper · 01-08-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by eaglesfan_45

so

he wasn't all that great greatly benifited from the prescence of Moss and Welker plus he is injury prone

He's still better than Curtis.

b316 · 01-08-2008, 04:53 PM

i dont know, Stallworth averages like 2 catches a game

Sniper · 01-08-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bhaarat316

i dont know, Stallworth averages like 2 catches a game

2.875 as the #3/#4 option in a spread offense. Stallworth averaged 19 ypc as the #1 in Philly.

bsaza2358 · 01-09-2008, 08:13 AM

Doesn't matter. Curtis came in for less money and caught 80 balls for 1000 yards. I'd rather have Curtis and his reliability and less injury issues than Stallworth's slight explosiveness upgrade.

Stallworth in the Curtis role would have missed 3-4 games and wouldn't have gotten 1000 yards.

RyanLeaf#1 · 01-09-2008, 10:45 AM

McNabb asking for playmakers on his blog. He's got alot of balls in my opinion considering he isnt such the playmaker anymore himself. Wake up McNabb this is not 02, and the team will not listen to you anymore. You are the past not the future. They signed Kevin Curtis to a 32 million dollar contract last year. Does he really think they are going to go out and spend big money on another WR? The Eagles best chances in my opinion are if they go out and draft Desean Jackson if he is still available, but I dont see them doing that at all.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3187772

RyanLeaf#1 · 01-09-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SNIPER26

Curtis is not better than Stallworth. Stallworth was the #3 or #4 target for the Pats.

I agree with you that Stallworth is better then Curtis. But dont you owe me a sig for the Eagles not getting to 10 wins?

Sniper · 01-09-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanLeaf#1

I agree with you that Stallworth is better then Curtis. But dont you owe me a sig for the Eagles not getting to 10 wins?

Yeah what do you want it to say?

bsaza2358 · 01-09-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanLeaf#1

McNabb asking for playmakers on his blog. He's got alot of balls in my opinion considering he isnt such the playmaker anymore himself. Wake up McNabb this is not 02, and the team will not listen to you anymore. You are the past not the future. They signed Kevin Curtis to a 32 million dollar contract last year. Does he really think they are going to go out and spend big money on another WR? The Eagles best chances in my opinion are if they go out and draft Desean Jackson if he is still available, but I dont see them doing that at all.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3187772

Yeah, that whole blog thing pisses me off. There are people getting paid millions to evaluate talent and go out and build teams. The Eagles know they have needs, and they don't need their franchise player lecturing them. BAH!

bsaza2358 · 01-09-2008, 11:42 AM

Almost zero chance that the Eagles take a WR in the first round this year. They could make a move in FA, but not in the first round of the draft.

RyanLeaf#1 · 01-09-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bsaza2358

Almost zero chance that the Eagles take a WR in the first round this year. They could make a move in FA, but not in the first round of the draft.

I agree that they arent going to go WR in the first round, but what move free agent wise do you think they are going to make. I'll be honest with you I dont see them going out and signing a big time name.

RyanLeaf#1 · 01-09-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bsaza2358

Yeah, that whole blog thing pisses me off. There are people getting paid millions to evaluate talent and go out and build teams. The Eagles know they have needs, and they don't need their franchise player lecturing them. BAH!

I wouldnt even call McNabb their franchise player anymore. I think Westbrook deserves that title now.

bsaza2358 · 01-09-2008, 12:38 PM

McNabb is the face of the franchise because he is the QB. Westbrook is the best player, but McNabb is the guy who will make the headlines. Just the way it is. You know exactly how Philly goes...

bsaza2358 · 01-09-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanLeaf#1

I agree that they arent going to go WR in the first round, but what move free agent wise do you think they are going to make. I'll be honest with you I dont see them going out and signing a big time name.

I keep hearing Javon Walker if he's available. That would be an interesting impact kind of move. Not sure how much he costs, but he has some injury concerns and is starting to get a little older. Still, good WCO background, and he can be an amazing playmaker when healthy.

If Chad Johnson is available, it will be interesting to hear what Cinci wants. If it's a second round pick, I'd do that in a second.

RyanLeaf#1 · 01-09-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bsaza2358

McNabb is the face of the franchise because he is the QB. Westbrook is the best player, but McNabb is the guy who will make the headlines. Just the way it is. You know exactly how Philly goes...

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Originally Posted by bsaza2358

I keep hearing Javon Walker if he's available. That would be an interesting impact kind of move. Not sure how much he costs, but he has some injury concerns and is starting to get a little older. Still, good WCO background, and he can be an amazing playmaker when healthy.

If Chad Johnson is available, it will be interesting to hear what Cinci wants. If it's a second round pick, I'd do that in a second.

Yea I know how Philly goes. On Javon Walker I dont think it looks to good for Philly since he is backing down from his trade talks. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3187735

Personally I just dont see the Eagles going after a WR like Johnson. Hes the closest thing to what T.O. was a couple of years ago, and I dont know if Reid and company want to go that route.

One question I think Dawkins gets cut. Do you agree with me Bsaza?

bsaza2358 · 01-09-2008, 01:52 PM

I am unsure if I agree with you on Dawkins, but I could see it. On the other hand, he's not too expensive, and his presence in the locker room is amazingly valuable. He is the heart and soul of the D.

I might be blinded because he is my favorite Eagle ever...

Sniper · 01-09-2008, 04:05 PM

You could see a couple old Eagles cut this off-season. Dawkins, Akers, McNabb.... among others

Re the receiver situation...Isn't Fitzgerald on the block? I'd love to have him. But Chad Johnson will do :)

b316 · 01-09-2008, 04:25 PM

if Fitz is on the block I would think the Cards would lock up Bryant Johnson. Chad Johnson I think is a better person than T.O. sure he has pranks and anticks but he doesn't go around say give me the ball, and go after his qb. Look at this season, not to good, but u didn't hear much from him.

bsaza2358 · 01-09-2008, 04:39 PM

Why would Fitzgerald be on the block? He is a Pro Bowler and may get even better over time. That would be idiotic. Roy Williams wants out of Detroit, and there could be a Chad Johnson trade out of Cinci. There's still a possibility of Javon Walker as well.

Sniper · 01-09-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bsaza2358

Why would Fitzgerald be on the block? He is a Pro Bowler and may get even better over time. That would be idiotic. Roy Williams wants out of Detroit, and there could be a Chad Johnson trade out of Cinci. There's still a possibility of Javon Walker as well.

Just what I heard. Rumor has it he's not a fan of Whisenhunt's O.

b316 · 01-09-2008, 04:48 PM

How about Roy in Philiadelphia, I do love him, he is a beastly WR.

bsaza2358 · 01-09-2008, 04:48 PM

Whisenhunt's O got him to the Pro Bowl and several All-Pro votes. There is no way the Cards will give him up. The offense can be tweaked. Finding a talent like Fitz cannot be replicated...

bsaza2358 · 01-09-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bhaarat316

How about Roy in Philiadelphia, I do love him, he is a beastly WR.

For the right price, I would take Roy Williams as an explosive #1 type WR. He has the right kind of attitude, and he is an enthusiastic blocker. Explosive playmaker and all that, too. Again, we're talking about for the right price, though. I'm not a fan of passing up first round picks for players.

Sniper · 01-09-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bsaza2358

For the right price, I would take Roy Williams as an explosive #1 type WR. He has the right kind of attitude, and he is an enthusiastic blocker. Explosive playmaker and all that, too. Again, we're talking about for the right price, though. I'm not a fan of passing up first round picks for players.

Why? Odds are the proven commodity will be better than the prospect.