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Old 06-04-2007, 07:42 PM    (permalink
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Stuckey just jumped from early and middle 2nd to middle and late 1st on NBAdraft.net. He must be really impressing people.
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Yes that is the ideal situation what you stated, I thought Scottie should have declared this year in a weak crop and would be a first rounder and challenge Crittenton. He was smart however to go back and get better. He is an insane and unconscious scorer but he needs to work on PG skills. He actually reminds me a lot of Deron Williams except he's a better scorer but has less point guard skills. Both though are big tough kids, and like Reynolds Deron played a lot of off guard with Dee Brown and made his mark with his scoring although you could see the passing. Scottie is a real NBA scout. I watched a lot of his high school games and he is one of the best scorers I had ever seen.
Very interesting comparison, I like it quite a bit. Williams is a little taller if I'm correct but the situation and skill set are both very similar, albeit with the exceptions you made. I'm excited to watch him play next year, and hope he makes the next step to become more recognized as one of the best pure scorers in college.

And Joey Dorsey is a monster. One of my favorite college players to watch. The thing about Memphis is they really played pretty well together last year, and with Rose coming in if they gel like they did last year they could be scary good. Only thing is their schedule isn't always that rough.
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Stuckey just jumped from early and middle 2nd to middle and late 1st on NBAdraft.net. He must be really impressing people.
And not that it means too much but FWIW Chad Ford has him going to the Pistons at like 15. I guess teams like the combo guard in him and his potential, so it'll be interesting to see if this is a fluke and he drops or if he continues to rise.
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Just to let you all know, Kevin Durant cant even bench press 185 one time.


jesus basketball players are such vaginas.


he wieghs 215 and cant even bench within 30 pounds of his wieght even once? give me a break.
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Just to let you all know, Kevin Durant cant even bench press 185 one time.


jesus basketball players are such vaginas.


he wieghs 215 and cant even bench within 30 pounds of his wieght even once? give me a break.
Well, Kevin Durant averaged 25.8 ppg, 11.1 rpg, and 1.9 bpg. I'm more concerned about those numbers, along with the Player of the Year Awards then I am about him benching 185.
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FWIW, Russell Carter had the most bench reps with 25. (Oden did not bench) GRF, who would you rather have? The guy who benches 185 25 times who is a relative no-namer or the National POY and all around man beast who benched 185 0 times. Like the 40 yard dash and the Wonderlic, this is another number which is completely overrated
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Just to let you all know, Kevin Durant cant even bench press 185 one time.


jesus basketball players are such vaginas.


he wieghs 215 and cant even bench within 30 pounds of his wieght even once? give me a break.
Can Shawne Merriman shoot 3's with ease? C'mon. He's a young kid. He'll have every opportunity to achieve his ideal bulk/strength while in the NBA. What matters is his skills as a basketball player. That is pretty weak to not even be able to bench your weight, but who looks weak when he's on the court? Yeah, his opponents.
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Although it carries weight unlike the NFLDRAFT the combine numbers are in:http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2095

Interesting Numbers:
Lowest Body Fats:Ekene Ibekwe:3.2, Sean Singletary:3.7, Jeff Green:3.7(Especially impressive because of how tall, big, and bulky he is) Corey Brewer:4.2, Mike Conley Jr.:4.2
Highest Body Fats:softy Josh McRoberts:13.7, Aaron Gray:10.8
The weak proved weak:Durant-0 Reps, Brandan Wright-2 Reps, Julian Wright-2 Reps, Daequan Cook surprising 4 reps
Strongest:Jeff Green-17 reps, Russell Carter-25, Coleman Collin-21, Al Horford 20, DJ Strawberry:21(shocking, overall combine rank was #1)
Longest wing span-Ekene Ibekwe, 7-6", Durant bigger wingspan than Oden. Shockingly Mr. Long arms Corey Brewer measured in at only 6-8", the skinny arms do make them look longer than they really were. Fellow SF measurements:Jeff Green:7-1", Julian:7-2", Thornton:7-1", and D Jeff Green was nearly 6-10" for your personal knowledge.
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Interesting Numbers:
Lowest Body Fats:Ekene Ibekwe:3.2, Sean Singletary:3.7, Jeff Green:3.7(Especially impressive because of how tall, big, and bulky he is) Corey Brewer:4.2, Mike Conley Jr.:4.2
Highest Body Fats:softy Josh McRoberts:13.7, Aaron Gray:10.8
The weak proved weak:Durant-0 Reps, Brandan Wright-2 Reps, Julian Wright-2 Reps, Daequan Cook surprising 4 reps
Strongest:Jeff Green-17 reps, Russell Carter-25, Coleman Collin-21, Al Horford 20, DJ Strawberry:21(shocking, overall combine rank was #1)
Longest wing span-Ekene Ibekwe, 7-6", Durant bigger wingspan than Oden. Shockingly Mr. Long arms Corey Brewer measured in at only 6-8", the skinny arms do make them look longer than they really were. Fellow SF measurements:Jeff Green:7-1", Julian:7-2", Thornton:7-1", and D Jeff Green was nearly 6-10" for your personal knowledge.
For Gray, isn't 10.8 pretty good for a center though? I mean, Oden is ridiculous, but for "normal" centers that's decent right?
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Yeah, I'm more concerned with Durant's wingspan than his bench. That's damn impressive.
Interesting numbers for Aaron Brooks too. Nice vert, and overall rank of 14 is nice. 2.7% body fat? wtf he been eatin'? That lane agility number looks nice too. I wasn't even aware they held a combine like that. I guess I'm not up on the NBA like I used to be. Just looking at those numbers, I think the guy that I'm most impressed with is Conley. Especially considering his age and intangibles on the court.

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you got to be kidding. a guy who cant even bench 185 is gonna get killed in the NBA.


that is incredibly weak for his wieght
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Dude hes going to play the 3, not the 4 and he will bulk up. he is just a kid.
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that is incredibly weak for his wieght
If your arms were that long, the bench press is not an accurate measure of your strength.
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he's a year younger then me and I can bench press almost twice as much as him....
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is that before or after your 4.15 40, KMH?
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is that before or after your 4.15 40, KMH?
After of course. he can do 3x as much before.
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that is incredibly weak for his wieght
Kevin Garrett was a rail. Tracy McGrady was a rail. Marvin Williams was a rail. He'll be just fine.
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is that before or after your 4.15 40, KMH?
Idk Kilometers, but I am sure he's a lost faster then me. Im not a runner.
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Kevin Garrett was a rail. Tracy McGrady was a rail. Marvin Williams was a rail. He'll be just fine.
did you just put Marvin Williams in a group with KG and TMac???
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did you just put Marvin Williams in a group with KG and TMac???
As far as talent-wise, no. As far as same body type coming into the league? Yes.
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As far as talent-wise, no. As far as same body type coming into the league? Yes.
Talent wise. Marvin was as talented as T-mac was comingg out. Sure he went to the hell hole of talent but he could still be very good.
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Of course alot of these young kids coming out are going be thin. As people mentioned KG, T-mac, and there's also Kobe, Dirk, and other's who came in at a very young age who were rail thin, but went on to grow(physically and mentally) and succeed. Plus I really doubt the teams are going to pass on a player of Durants caliber just because how much he benches. He's proven on the court he can play. So GRF, you are really nitpicking on trivial things.
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