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Old 06-23-2009, 07:56 PM    (permalink
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Booooo.. though I'm not Amir's biggest fan at all, I don't like trades that are made for salary cap purposes. I feel ripped off! :(
Well, at least the team has two centers now.
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Uhh both players are in the final year of their contracts and make the same amount.
As far as I know, Oberto's contract is non guaranteed.. we're gonna release him.
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As far as I know, Oberto's contract is non guaranteed.. we're gonna release him.
If this is all for Ben Gordon...
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Love is better at this time then anyone available at #2, and you would say they should trade him plus spare parts (ie. expiring contracts more then likely) for the #2? Considering that they already have such a young roster, the deal would make them even younger.
Brian Scalabrine is better at this time than anyone available in this draft. Does that mean you wouldn't trade him for #1? Love alone isn't worth the #2 pick, even in this draft. The deal would make them younger, but just because they're young doesn't mean they're good. They're a horribly put together team, and the doesn't have a bright future with both Love and Al Jeff in the front court.
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Love is on par with Griffin this draft class sucks besides Rubio
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Amir :( I don't understand this trade at all. Trade our raw F with upside for a guy who was about to get cut?

Also, I think you guys are talking out of your ass about how weak this draft class is. I think its a fairly talented and deep class, it just lacks elite top end prospects. Every year the NBA draft class is called weak, I'm sorry but you can't have 5 all world players in every class.

And that Love/Griffin line was pretty brutal to read with a straight face Fenikz.

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Amir :( I don't understand this trade at all. Trade our raw F with upside for a guy who was about to get cut?
We're gonna cut him too. Supposedly we're trying to get $25 Million under the cap.
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Oh fck the Wizards. First they are cheap ass punks who don't want to pay the luxury tax so we first get rid of the #5 overall pick. We were already the weakest front court team in the league and we get rid of 3 of our front court players, 2 who were heavy in the rotation. Secondly we get Mike Fricken Miller and Randy Foye??? Get the F out of here. Just what we needed 2 guys who want to shoot but won't play defense. Didn't we already have Arenas, Jamison, and Butler to do that??? Goodness Gracious. We basically gave away the 5th pick for free and couldn't even unload the much worse contract of Mike James. F this.
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Nah. This is one of the worst classes in some time. Every one talks about all the PGs. Yeah that's a deep position but, w/ average level talent there. This class is horrid in comparison to years past. Hence why it is constantly being compared to that 2000 class. Now, I doubt it will be that bad. It wont take much to top that debacle but, it will probably go down as the weakest since then.
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If I'm the T'wolves I just stay with my picks. Take Jordan Hill at 5. Tyreke Evans at 6, and Eric Maynor or Patty Mills at 28.
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Apparently Javale Mcgee will convert all of that athleticism into overwhelming skill.
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I see the Wolves targeting Evans and Curry
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That could be. When the original trade with the Bucks/Spurs was announced they only said that Bowen's contract partially guaranteed. Oberto's could be non/partially guaranteed too for all I know.
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Are you high? We need another PF like I need a bullet in the head. I like Evans but Hill would be the WORST possible scenario.
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Oh fck the Wizards. First they are cheap ass punks who don't want to pay the luxury tax so we first get rid of the #5 overall pick. We were already the weakest front court team in the league and we get rid of 3 of our front court players, 2 who were heavy in the rotation. Secondly we get Mike Fricken Miller and Randy Foye??? Get the F out of here. Just what we needed 2 guys who want to shoot but won't play defense. Didn't we already have Arenas, Jamison, and Butler to do that??? Goodness Gracious. We basically gave away the 5th pick for free and couldn't even unload the much worse contract of Mike James. F this.
They did a nice job dumping the salary of those 3 guys though. Miller has an expiring contract and Foye is still young and will be a restricted free agent next year. Mike James will also have an expiring contract so that makes 2 potential trade pieces, with Miller, that they can dangle this year.
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They did a nice job dumping the salary of those 3 guys though. Miller has an expiring contract and Foye is still young and will be a restricted free agent next year. Mike James will also have an expiring contract so that makes 2 potential trade pieces, with Miller, that they can dangle this year.
Etan Thomas is also expiring. Also Songaila could be expiring as well unless he picks up his player option. We basically only saved like 2 mil on the deal, just enough so our cheap as team doesn't have to pay the luxury.
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#5 - Jrue Holliday
#6 - Jonny Flynn
#18 - Austin Daye
#28 - Tyler Hansbrough

aka the "acquire players with the letter Y in their name experiment"

I think it'll work.
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#5 - Jrue Holliday
#6 - Jonny Flynn
#18 - Austin Daye
#28 - Tyler Hansbrough

aka the "acquire players with the letter Y in their name experiment"

I think it'll work.
Jrue Holiday will be a 1 at the next level, not a 2. It would be pointless to select Jrue and Jonny.
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Etan Thomas is also expiring. Also Songaila could be expiring as well unless he picks up his player option. We basically only saved like 2 mil on the deal, just enough so our cheap as team doesn't have to pay the luxury.
Well my team did the same thing (Bucks) but we still have our 10th overall pick. We only saved $3 million this year but next year it will be around $15 million. You guys could still trade those expiring contracts for more young players.
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