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Old 06-25-2009, 05:03 PM    (permalink
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I think that Orlando was foolish for this move. Instead of being competitive for 5-8 years they have a 1 to 2 year window. They will regret giving up Courtney Lee.
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apparently it may be 2 deals, with Anderson being dealt seperately for the Magic's MLE. that'd be ******* ********.
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apparently it may be 2 deals, with Anderson being dealt seperately for the Magic's MLE. that'd be ******* ********.
That means the have two targeted player this offseason. Interesting...
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All the Brooklyn Nets need to do is get Lebron and they will have Harris/Lee/Lebron/PF/Lopez the future is looking good for them. Even if they don't get Lebron they could get Wade or Bosh
Even with the cap room the Nets have, seems like a big gamble to rely on getting someone like Lebron or Wade.
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Even with the cap room the Nets have, seems like a big gamble to rely on getting someone like Lebron or Wade.
Why would LeBron go from Cleveland to New Jersey? Seems like a lateral move in every sense. And D-Wade going from Miami to Jersey? You can forget that. He's banging hot Miami ass now and he'd move to a Jersey girl? Yeah right. I'm not saying that Jersey girls are trash but at least trash gets picked up.
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That Orlando trade is hilarious.
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In what way?
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You guys got a vince carter with no knees and gave up a solid rookie.
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You guys got a vince carter with no knees and gave up a solid rookie.
I hate that we gave up Lee more than anyone. But i mean this easily tips in the Magic's corner. VC is still a 20 point per game, elite type scorer who is a very good passer and they got a young PF who could excel in our system.

I dont even like the deal because of Lee's involvement but, it makes Orlando a lot better.
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I hate that we gave up Lee more than anyone. But i mean this easily tips in the Magic's corner. VC is still a 20 point per game, elite type scorer who is a very good passer and they got a young PF who could excel in our system.

I dont even like the deal because of Lee's involvement but, it makes Orlando a lot better.
But was lack of scoring really the reason you guys lost in the finals though? I just don't get it.
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But was lack of scoring really the reason you guys lost in the finals though? I just don't get it.
No but, one thing everyone brought up during the finals was the lack of a true go to guy down the stretch. Or someone who could always create his own shot when the rest aren't hitting. They obviously wanted that type of player. I dont agree that we needed that type of player but, that's exactly what they were after. They were even interested in Mcgrady which would have been moronic because, he is done. But again, they wanted to add that caliber scorer. It may only be for two years but, a lineup of Nelson, Carter, Turkoglu, Lewis, and Howard is by far the most talented in the league. Pretty much 5 all-stars or 5 guys of all-star caliber. They're serious about winning a title right now.

And again, I'm not the biggest fan because, Lee was my favorite player but, I certainly see why they did it.
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Vince Carter gives us two things.

A. An outstanding scorer who, while old, doesn't really have that bad of an injury history (76+ games and 36.8 MPG minimum the last four years).

B. A very valuable expiring contract next year.

I'm sad to see Lee go, but I think this could be a good thing. And it's foolish to say the Magic have just a two-year window- As long as Dwight is on this team, it's a 50-win minimum squad.
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No but, one thing everyone brought up during the finals was the lack of a true go to guy down the stretch. Or someone who could always create his own shot when the rest aren't hitting. They obviously wanted that type of player. I dont agree that we needed that type of player but, that's exactly what they were after. They were even interested in Mcgrady which would have been moronic because, he is done. But again, they wanted to add that caliber scorer. It may only be for two years but, a lineup of Nelson, Carter, Turkoglu, Lewis, and Howard is by far the most talented in the league. Pretty much 5 all-stars or 5 guys of all-star caliber. They're serious about winning a title right now.

And again, I'm not the biggest fan because, Lee was my favorite player but, I certainly see why they did it.
Vince may get his points but I wouldn't exactly consider him a go to down the stretch guy. Orlando is betting a lot on Vince's heart but he has shown time and again that he has all the ability in the world, yet shrinks to the occasion.

Also I'm putting it out there I think the Thunder are scary next year. I think they will grow up fast and am also very high on Harden.

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Congratulations to the Nets for gradually building a very good team, by the way. They're still a couple years off, but Devin Harris/Courtney Lee/Theoretical LeBron in 2010/?/Bropez could cause problems for a lot of teams.
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In what way?
Well two seconds ago it was all about how Lee was a monster and a future All-Star. Then the Magic trade him away for Vince, probably not retaining Hedo. Now they have a marginally decent guy to go to in the clutch in Shard (but he won't be able to create his own shot like Hedo) and Vince who is washed up and disappears in the playoffs. Plus, not too long ago you folks were saying a healthy Jameer was the guy to go to down the stretch, so I don't see how much this helps. Plus, now your only decent perimeter defenders are Pietrus and the Kobe Stopper.
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Well two seconds ago it was all about how Lee was a monster and a future All-Star. Then the Magic trade him away for Vince, probably not retaining Hedo. Now they have a marginally decent guy to go to in the clutch in Shard (but he won't be able to create his own shot like Hedo) and Vince who is washed up and disappears in the playoffs. Plus, not too long ago you folks were saying a healthy Jameer was the guy to go to down the stretch, so I don't see how much this helps. Plus, now your only decent perimeter defenders are Pietrus and the Kobe Stopper.
Latest reports are they still plan on retaining Hedo.

and VC isnt washed up, I dont know where people get that from. The guy is a consistant 20, 5, and 5 guy. Jameer can certainly be a go to guy as well, that hasnt changed. I love Lee but, this puts the Magic over the top...again, if they can bring back Hedo. While Lee is a fantastic defender. I dont think their defense would take a major hit. The team defense is fantastic and SVG and the team prides themselves on it. Howard causes so many problems by himself in the paint...and that makes the perimeter players jobs that much easier. Orlando could be the favorite to win it all w/ this roster. All 5 starters are of all-star caliber and any of them can go off for 30 at any moment and 20 every other game or so. This team is going to be near impossible to guard. It will change up our offense quite a bit, though because, our 2 guards weren't always asked to do a whole lot on the offensive end except camp out...this adds a new wrinkle into what we can do.

and by the way...I'm still very pissed off about it but, I know the benefits of it.
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Reportedly Sheed is down to the Magic and the Spurs.
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Reportedly Sheed is down to the Magic and the Spurs.
Please be the Magic.
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Reportedly Sheed is down to the Magic and the Spurs.
I don't want to see his ******* ass four times a year but I like the Spurs, so I'm torn.
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I feel like a god damn yankees fan, potentially adding all these big name guys...and I dont like it, believe it or not.

If the Magic landed Wallace than there would be no room for Hedo either. They would be going straight conventional lineup w/ Nelson, Carter, Lewis, Wallace, Howard.
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I feel like a god damn yankees fan, potentially adding all these big name guys...and I dont like it, believe it or not.

If the Magic landed Wallace than there would be no room for Hedo either. They would be going straight conventional lineup w/ Nelson, Carter, Lewis, Wallace, Howard.
You mean like a...Cowboys fan.
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