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Old 06-16-2007, 01:34 PM    (permalink
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Well the concerns about Yi's age have dropped his stock. I'd still take him at #9 though without a doubt. I'm just speculating. Rumors are rumors and that's all I've heard. But my lottery that I just made is how I see things shaping up as or RIGHT NOW That could change though in a few days when we find out more info.
I wouldn't have any problems with Yi at 9 regardless of his age either. I think we can afford to take a shot on a guy as talented as him at 9 developing. Now I have two questions, lets say Yi, Hawes, and all of the top 4 guys are gone when we pick at 9, as is Conley. What direction do we go in? You mentioned Julian Wright, where do you think he'd fit and get his play time? If not Julian, what other players (barring a trade) do we look at? Crittenton? Maybe reach for Smith?
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The way they're going as a franchise. For the style they want to run, Wright is a better fit than Horford. Smith, Johnson, and Williams are all very good open court players. Add in a guy like Crittenton and that team is going to run, run, run all over the place. I think Brandan would be a better fit for that team.
I can't agree Jsmoove is cemented at the 4 and maybe even 5 Horford could play the 5 not Wright, and Wright is too much of a project, Horford is ready to start.
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I can't agree Jsmoove is cemented at the 4 and maybe even 5 Horford could play the 5 not Wright, and Wright is too much of a project, Horford is ready to start.
We'll see come draft day but don't be surprised to see them take Wright. Btw, what do you do with Shelden Williams now? Basically he's a wasted pick now.
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Also when picking for Atlanta, you have to think like Atlanta. Passing on Williams and Paul for Marvin. Taking Shelden Williams over Roy and Foye. Which is why I think they go Wright. I think his upside really intrigues them.
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Also when picking for Atlanta, you have to think like Atlanta. Passing on Williams and Paul for Marvin. Taking Shelden Williams over Roy and Foye. Which is why I think they go Wright. I think his upside really intrigues them.
But you can't say Shelden's upside intrigued him over Foye, even front office said they made the pick cause they wanted a safe pick, that is the direction the front office is taking, and Horford is the safe pick. If we wanted potential we would have gone Saer Sene or Patrick O'Bryant. Also Shelden will be alright off the bench. He was actually more than decent last year and will be a good role player ala Antonio Davis.
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But you can't say Shelden's upside intrigued him over Foye, even front office said they made the pick cause they wanted a safe pick, that is the direction the front office is taking, and Horford is the safe pick. If we wanted potential we would have gone Saer Sene or Patrick O'Bryant. Also Shelden will be alright off the bench. He was actually more than decent last year and will be a good role player ala Antonio Davis.
True but look how that safe pick worked out. Basically they'd be drafting the same "type" of player 2 years in a row. Back to the basket, big body type guys. Which is why I think they go Brandan Wright, or Yi at #3. I don't think Atlanta is ready to give up on Shelden yet.

I'm thinking like the front office, you're thinking like a rational Hawks fan. Big difference there GS.
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True but look how that safe pick worked out. Basically they'd be drafting the same "type" of player 2 years in a row. Back to the basket, big body type guys. Which is why I think they go Brandan Wright, or Yi at #3. I don't think Atlanta is ready to give up on Shelden yet.

I'm thinking like the front office, you're thinking like a rational Hawks fan. Big difference there GS.
Thinking like Hawks I can easily see us going Wright, but Julian not Brandan, I think we need another athletic swingman, and maybe Nick Young at 11 lol, but true what you say although I don't find it possible to think like the Atlanta front office.
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Thinking like Hawks I can easily see us going Wright, but Julian not Brandan, I think we need another athletic swingman, and maybe Nick Young at 11 lol, but true what you say although I don't find it possible to think like the Atlanta front office.
Here we'll make a deal. If Atlanta takes anyone other than Wright, our sig bet deal is off. If they take Brandan the duration increases from one month to 3 months. That's a fair trade off.
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Here we'll make a deal. If Atlanta takes anyone other than Wright, our sig bet deal is off. If they take Brandan the duration increases from one month to 3 months. That's a fair trade off.
Deal..........
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The Orlando Magic currently don't have a first-round pick in the June 28 draft – it was part of a trade with Detroit that brought Darko Milicic and Carlos Arroyo – but they continue exploring the possibility of trading for one.

They still have two second-round picks (44th and 54th), even after giving one away to the Miami Heat (39th ) to sign coach Stan Van Gundy.

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The Orlando Magic currently don't have a first-round pick in the June 28 draft it was part of a trade with Detroit that brought Darko Milicic and Carlos Arroyo but they continue exploring the possibility of trading for one.

They still have two second-round picks (44th and 54th), even after giving one away to the Miami Heat (39th ) to sign coach Stan Van Gundy.

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They've been saying they've had their eye on someone for the longest time.
I read that. I don't think Otis Smith has the ability to or savvy to pull of a trade to get into the first round. If he does, he'll get ripped off. That's the kind of GM he is.
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The Orlando Magic currently don't have a first-round pick in the June 28 draft – it was part of a trade with Detroit that brought Darko Milicic and Carlos Arroyo – but they continue exploring the possibility of trading for one.

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They've been saying they've had their eye on someone for the longest time.
Any idea of who that someone could be, or are there no indications at this point? At least a position? Any area they're trying to trade into/potential partners? If they're looking for late first Charlotte is possible, I think they'd be open to trading their second first.
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I read that. I don't think Otis Smith has the ability to or savvy to pull of a trade to get into the first round. If he does, he'll get ripped off. That's the kind of GM he is.
Well, we'll find out... I have the feeling this may be a very disappointing off-season... Did you hear that if we dont get one of the top tier FA's... Mikael Pietrus is looking like a real possibility.
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Any idea of who that someone could be, or are there no indications at this point? At least a position? Any area they're trying to trade into/potential partners? If they're looking for late first Charlotte is possible, I think they'd be open to trading their second first.
Really havent heard anything other than, they've had their eye on one specific player for a very long time.
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Really havent heard anything other than, they've had their eye on one specific player for a very long time.
That's really interesting. So we're probably looking at a college senior or junior, or an international guy like Belinelli or Splitter who's been out there for awhile I guess.
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That's really interesting. So we're probably looking at a college senior or junior, or an international guy like Belinelli or Splitter who's been out there for awhile I guess.
I imagine that player would be a guy to replace Grant Hill
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I imagine that player would be a guy to replace Grant Hill
It's gonna get interesting this off-season... I've even heard some rumors that Ariza may start at SG next year...

As for Hill...if we cant sign a big name FA...i wouldnt be shocked to see him return.
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That's really interesting. So we're probably looking at a college senior or junior, or an international guy like Belinelli or Splitter who's been out there for awhile I guess.
Wait what? What's this "we" talk? I thought you were a Bulls fan.
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It's gonna get interesting this off-season... I've even heard some rumors that Ariza may start at SG next year...

As for Hill...if we cant sign a big name FA...i wouldnt be shocked to see him return.
I think the prospect may be Marcus Williams. He was terrific as freshmen at Arizona but his game leveled off a bit this year. His stock has dropped due to it, but he has the ability to be a very good player.
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Wait what? What's this "we" talk? I thought you were a Bulls fan.
I was using we as a very general term attempting (I guess unsuccessfully) to refer to anyone speculating about who they Magic were targeting. I am most definitely a Bulls fan (although I kind of like the C's because they're my dad's team). But the Bulls always have, and always will be, my favorite team.
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Morris Almond vs. Arron Afflalo

Both projected around the late 1st to mid first. I've seen enough of Afflalo to have pretty good gauge on his game, but what about Almond?
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